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What do you think of this?
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 6:39 pm
by parttime
I stumbled onto these pictures while looking at Google Images.
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Re: What do you think of this?
Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 10:36 am
by westy1970
Looks pretty authentic and looks like a fun site.
Re: What do you think of this?
Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 11:34 am
by riku1914
Doesn't look very Morgan to me...
Also it looks like it's a 16 plait, according to my count. Anyone else see that?
Re: What do you think of this?
Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 4:18 pm
by knibs7
This is from an older video from Brandon at the Prop Store. It also showcased Indy's glasses and the Grail Diary. Pretty sure the whip was also used in the opening temple scene.
Kyle
Re: What do you think of this?
Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 9:32 pm
by parttime
It didn't look like a Morgan to me but with the cable set up it was certainly intended for some type of stunt.
Also I have yet to see a clear picture of the "Drag Whip" actually used behind the truck so this could very well be it. Maybe
-Dusty
Re: What do you think of this?
Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 9:39 pm
by riku1914
The plaiting, especially as it goes down the thing, just looks too smooth to be a Morgan, even around that time ( it seems to me that the Morgan whips back then were a little smoother than they are now ).
That would be cool if we could somehow confirm it as that whip! I've wondered about it on occasion.
Re: What do you think of this?
Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 2:01 pm
by thefish
Unless I am mistaken, David Morgan didn't actually SUPPLY any whips for the PRODUCTION of the film. I think they were Glenn Randall's that David made for HIM that were used in Raiders. The first whips David made specifically for the franchise were for Temple, and I the first "Stunt Whip" he'd done with a cable, (or paracord. I've heard different things,) for stunt swinging/dragging/etc. was for Mask of Zorro.
The swinging/dragging whips with the stunt cable in the core, (paracord or steel,) were most likely produced by the prop department.
So, while looking at that prop, I would at first be inclined to call BS on it's authenticity, but could easily be wrong.
Anyone else have any info?
All the best!
-D
Re: What do you think of this?
Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 7:16 pm
by knibs7
thefish wrote:
So, while looking at that prop, I would at first be inclined to call BS on it's authenticity, but could easily be wrong.
Anyone else have any info?
All the best!
-D
I don't know about calling BS on the authenticity. I think it was, indeed the whip for the drag scene. However, I think they messed up in the description and got their facts wrong... Especially about it being "skilfully made from 12 plait natural tan kangaroo hide."
If this whip is 12 plait and made out of NATURAL TAN hide, then I was one of the German soldiers in the truck. The whip definitely appears to be 16 plait and burgundy (though you can see undertones of tan, maybe they just did a quick dye job.)
Kyle
Re: What do you think of this?
Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 7:33 pm
by riku1914
knibs7 wrote:thefish wrote:
So, while looking at that prop, I would at first be inclined to call BS on it's authenticity, but could easily be wrong.
Anyone else have any info?
All the best!
-D
I don't know about calling BS on the authenticity. I think it was, indeed the whip for the drag scene. However, I think they messed up in the description and got their facts wrong... Especially about it being "skilfully made from 12 plait natural tan kangaroo hide."
If this whip is 12 plait and made out of NATURAL TAN hide, then I was one of the German soldiers in the truck. The whip definitely appears to be 16 plait and burgundy (though you can see undertones of tan, maybe they just did a quick dye job.)
Kyle
The leather darkens with time, and also with it being dragged behind the truck it would be stained. I had no problem with the color description.
thefish wrote:Unless I am mistaken, David Morgan didn't actually SUPPLY any whips for the PRODUCTION of the film. I think they were Glenn Randall's that David made for HIM that were used in Raiders. The first whips David made specifically for the franchise were for Temple, and I the first "Stunt Whip" he'd done with a cable, (or paracord. I've heard different things,) for stunt swinging/dragging/etc. was for Mask of Zorro.
The swinging/dragging whips with the stunt cable in the core, (paracord or steel,) were most likely produced by the prop department.
So, while looking at that prop, I would at first be inclined to call BS on it's authenticity, but could easily be wrong.
Anyone else have any info?
All the best!
-D
I think i remember reading something like that at one time.
Re: What do you think of this?
Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 11:02 pm
by knibs7
riku1914 wrote:
The leather darkens with time, and also with it being dragged behind the truck it would be stained. I had no problem with the color description.
OBVIOUSLY whip leather darkens with time, but look at the screen caps. It was extremely dark to begin with! A whip takes years to be significantly darkened. And being dragged in THAT dirt would have only LIGHTENED an already dark whip.
Kyle
Re: What do you think of this?
Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 11:05 pm
by riku1914
It looks lighter to me in the drag scene, than in the now pictures...
Re: What do you think of this?
Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 7:38 am
by Indiana County Jr.
It kind of looks more like the whip from the trench swing instead of the drag sequence to me.
Re: What do you think of this?
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 4:51 pm
by knibs7
Indiana County Jr. wrote:It kind of looks more like the whip from the trench swing instead of the drag sequence to me.
As stated earlier, I'm pretty sure it was used for both
Kyle