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Knot foundation

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 12:23 pm
by willthebold
Hey folks,

Could someone help me out with building a butt knot foundation? I've done several different ones, but it's hard for me to get the shape just right. I like the shape of David Morgan's knot, and that's what I'm going for. It seems like my knots are either too can-shaped, or too round. I'm really trying the get that sort of teardrop shape seen on the Indy style bullwhips. I've watched all of Bernie's videos, but his knots aren't quite the same shape. Does anyone have any tips for getting the shape just right?

Thanks!
-Will

Re: Knot foundation

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 3:08 pm
by riku1914
willthebold wrote:Hey folks,

Could someone help me out with building a butt knot foundation? I've done several different ones, but it's hard for me to get the shape just right. I like the shape of David Morgan's knot, and that's what I'm going for. It seems like my knots are either too can-shaped, or too round. I'm really trying the get that sort of teardrop shape seen on the Indy style bullwhips. I've watched all of Bernie's videos, but his knots aren't quite the same shape. Does anyone have any tips for getting the shape just right?

Thanks!
-Will
I'll show you a couple pictures, and what that foundation resulted in, hopefully you'll like one. Some may be with a picture of the

full whip because I don't always take knot foundation pictures:

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This ( before the whip was rolled ):

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What are you using to build up the foundation?

Re: Knot foundation

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 4:31 pm
by willthebold
Awesome pics! That's exactly what I was trying to compare. I actually like both of those shapes, but especially the first one. I use a strip of leather that I tack on the handle, then I wrap some sinew around it. Looks similar to your foundations, actually. Thanks for the help! Do you have some rough measurements on how big those foundations are?

Will

Re: Knot foundation

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 4:51 pm
by riku1914
willthebold wrote:Awesome pics! That's exactly what I was trying to compare. I actually like both of those shapes, but especially the first one. I use a strip of leather that I tack on the handle, then I wrap some sinew around it. Looks similar to your foundations, actually. Thanks for the help! Do you have some rough measurements on how big those foundations are?

Will
I believe the first one was 39mm high and 42.5mm wide, and the second was 42mm wide and 43mm high, which the second was

getting close to too big, but was still comfortable in my palm.

Re: Knot foundation

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 5:39 pm
by willthebold
That's perfect! You are awesome! Do you put lead in your foundation? By the way, what part of Texas are you in? I live in Austin, and I always notice your signature about living in Texas. Thanks again for the help!

Re: Knot foundation

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 6:43 pm
by trdaggers
When the heading said "Knot Foundation" I thought someone was looking for donations. :lol:

Gailen

Re: Knot foundation

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 8:30 pm
by riku1914
willthebold wrote:That's perfect! You are awesome! Do you put lead in your foundation? By the way, what part of Texas are you in? I live in Austin, and I always notice your signature about living in Texas. Thanks again for the help!
I do put lead in my foundations, I usually use lead 1" wide, but occasionally I'll go 1.25". The knots above used 1.1-1.25 " wide I

think.

North of Dallas :TOH:

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I think this was the 9 footer, the second whip shown:

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I don't do binding on bolsters anymore...