Dad's Umbrella

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Dad's Umbrella

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After recently returning from a trip to England, I can confidently identify the umbrella that Sean Connera carries around with him as a Swaine Adney Brigg. They're considered the top of the line in unbrellas, and they don't ccome cheap.. a silk umbrella like they used in the film could easily set you back $400 or more, although you can get them in nylon for "only" a couple hundred.

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I apologize for the resurrection, but I was looking around foe a thread that ID'd on Sr's umbrella, and this was surprisingly the only thread that popped up.

Suffice to say, 16 years and no replies later, Cojones was right on the money.

I recently bought several Swaine Adeney umbrellas for reasons that had nothing to do with Indy. However, today I just happened to catch Last Crusade on cable while channel surfing, and was shocked that the all the calling cards of SA (ie, trademark gold nose) was present on Connery's umbrella.

It makes sense though that the production would have gotten the umbrella from SA, considering their relationship to Herbert Johnson and the fact that since it was filmed in the UK, they would go with a very traditional UK brand. And what's more traditional than SA's umbrellas?
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Surprising there isn't more on this. Have any close up photos of your Brigg? Keep in mind HJ was not a part of Swaine Adeney Brigg until the 1990s. Here's a potential alternative from another very old maker, J.S. Smith & Sons:

https://www.james-smith.co.uk/product/u ... n-malacca/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
or https://www.james-smith.co.uk/product/u ... grovesnor/
or https://www.james-smith.co.uk/product/u ... ane-crook/

However examining the slim gold ring on the handle in the last photo below, this very well could be a Fox: https://www.foxumbrellas.com/gents-tube ... ood.html#/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

More on Fox: http://www.merchantandmakers.com/fox-umbrellas/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Then again, it is likely more than one was used on screen with some variation.

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I'm not sure but I don't think the umbrella is a Brigg. I own one and they are built around a solid wooden shaft, like a walking stick with an umbrella round it.

If you look at the last photo above you can clearly see that the shaft is steel. I think this makes it more likely it is a Fox frame. However, these frames are used by many manufacturers. Smith would be a good candidate as would Fox themselves.

We might not be much closer but I don't feel it was a Brigg.

:TOH:
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Cool research, but 2003? That seems like a lifetime ago for me!
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Wotalark wrote:I'm not sure but I don't think the umbrella is a Brigg. I own one and they are built around a solid wooden shaft, like a walking stick with an umbrella round it.

If you look at the last photo above you can clearly see that the shaft is steel. I think this makes it more likely it is a Fox frame. However, these frames are used by many manufacturers. Smith would be a good candidate as would Fox themselves.

We might not be much closer but I don't feel it was a Brigg.

:TOH:
In hindsight, I think you're completely right. Looking at the hallmarks of a Briggs, it looks less and less likely the one to me.Fox does seem the more likely candidate, but this is probably just too obscure a prop for us ever to find the answer to... Who knows? Chances are it might even be some company that went out of business decades ago.
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