Last crusade/CS hat. UPDATED THREAD.

Post by **Holt** » Sun Sep 25, 2011 3:15 pm

here is my new 100% beaver LC/CS hat.

taken infront of a mirror but all pictures are flipped back to normal.

slight turn, a wee bit shorter brim.

what do you think?

EDIT: NEW PICTURES

iwantamorganreelbad1 · Sun Sep 25, 2011 3:22 pm

Quadruple

I like the hat. It's a good 'un!

Post by **Tennessee Smith** » Sun Sep 25, 2011 3:23 pm

Just finished watching LC on USA and that hat looks perfect.

I'll send you my address.

Ian · Post by **Ian** » Sun Sep 25, 2011 3:24 pm

Nice! Where'd you get it? I like the slight turn on it. Great job on the crease!
Ian

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Post by **Holt** » Sun Sep 25, 2011 3:36 pm

Thanks my friends.

this is an old hat I got as a gift from my good friend 'G' a few years back.

The brim was always to wide for my taste,wider then Raiders standards so I trimmed her down and instantly I saw that it could turn into a really nice LC hat. It is blocked on a 'Raiders' block and is why it can remind of CS hat in some shots. but mostly it looks like the LC to me.

took of the ribbon it came with and gave her a lighterone and made a new bow.

I wanted to give her a slight turn since that gives such an adventuries look and the CS looks to be slightly turned in some scenes.

iwantamorganreelbad1 · Sun Sep 25, 2011 3:55 pm

Tennessee Smith wrote:Just finished watching LC on USA and that hat looks perfect.

I'll send you my address.

Dang it I missed it

Now CS is on, the camp part where Ox and Marion are found.

' GRAB THE ROPE'

Ian · Post by **Ian** » Sun Sep 25, 2011 3:57 pm

Cool. There's still a slight hint of Raiders there, but it definitely looks LC to me especially in the first shot. The brim still seems a touch wide to me, but that may be the slight turn throwing me off. Fantastic looking lid! You gonna give this some regular wear? It suits you dude.

Ian

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Post by **Dr. Nebraska S.** » Sun Sep 25, 2011 4:24 pm

Looks good on you, Eric!

Excellent job on customizing that hat.

Post by **Holt** » Mon Sep 26, 2011 2:39 pm

Thanks Luke. here are two more...

when seeing it with the gear on I get the LC feeling more then CS.

EDIT

Hollowpond · Post by **Hollowpond** » Mon Sep 26, 2011 3:15 pm

That is a spot on LC!!! Nice!

Kokopelli · Post by **Kokopelli** » Mon Sep 26, 2011 6:15 pm

I think....you should send it to me.

fifthchamber · Post by **fifthchamber** » Mon Sep 26, 2011 8:05 pm

Nice flair on the wings there Holt....Great LC hat...

And if you lowered the side brims a touch you'd be okay for a Crystal Skull too...Although the LC seems to fit on that hat (and with your gear of course)..

Great stuff!

Mitch LaRue · Post by **Mitch LaRue** » Tue Sep 27, 2011 10:26 am

Looks GREAT, Holt... A really spot-on LC look!

Local Land Surveyor · Tue Sep 27, 2011 10:54 am

Curling the sides of the brim is a definite Last Crusade "must have" for the hat. Looks good. Narrowing the brim is a good add, too. Subtle, but needed. The bash style on the front of the crown says a little more Crystal Skull. So you named the style accurately, to my eyes.

LLS

morethanatimelord · Post by **morethanatimelord** » Tue Sep 27, 2011 2:22 pm

eah, curling the sides of the brim is a must for the LC lid

Ford looks So cool durinthe Venice pier scenes

I curled the sides of my brim and pulled the front of the brim down a little more

Mitch LaRue · Post by **Mitch LaRue** » Tue Sep 27, 2011 7:32 pm

NO doubt about it: That's a great LC, morethanatimelord! I've always really liked that one... and it's a perfect match for you.

morethanatimelord · Post by **morethanatimelord** » Wed Sep 28, 2011 3:05 pm

Mitch LaRue wrote:NO doubt about it: That's a great LC, morethanatimelord! I've always really liked that one... and it's a perfect match for you.

Penman is magican

kwad · Post by **kwad** » Wed Sep 28, 2011 4:33 pm

Holt,

Great job!
The narrower brim really suits you.

Post by **Holt** » Mon Nov 07, 2011 8:06 pm

Hi guys.

an update.

I finally have my LC hat!!

I reblocked my hat with my vintage block. I actually started out to make an CS hat but when I pulled it of the block I just saw something in the hat shape I had to follow up on. so I started trimming the brim down while saying goodbye to the wider brimmed CS hat train. so, slammed in that bash and here she is now 10 min ago.

boy! I lucked out with this majic block since it pulls of the Raiders AND the LC.

what do you think?

ShanghaiJack · Post by **ShanghaiJack** » Mon Nov 07, 2011 8:34 pm

Nice lookin' lid, but I thought you burned that “magic” block for firewood?

Post by **Holt** » Mon Nov 07, 2011 8:35 pm

yeah,... I did, didn't I?

lantzn · Post by **lantzn** » Mon Nov 07, 2011 8:44 pm

That narrow brim really does change the look of a hat. It reminds me of a hat from a western.

I like.

Post by **Holt** » Mon Nov 07, 2011 8:51 pm

I know what ya mean,

IMO it's pure magic..

I love this brim

I also just noticed I had not flipped the 3 pictures above back to the normal. obviously they where taken inforn of the mirror. ah well, tomorrow maby..

ShanghaiJack · Post by **ShanghaiJack** » Mon Nov 07, 2011 9:10 pm

It sure is magic, but I'd really love to see that magic block too.

iwantamorganreelbad1 · Mon Nov 07, 2011 9:31 pm

Gets better and better with every update. The brim is spot on. I applaud you.
You should try your hand in hatmaking.

Ian · Post by **Ian** » Tue Nov 08, 2011 2:16 am

Now that just is the LC hat!!

That block has got to be near to the original, but I wouldn't give it all the credit.....I reckon I could give you my dorfman and you could have it looking like an accurate Indy lid from any of the films......You're a talented artist dude!!...

Ian

darthbish · Post by **darthbish** » Tue Nov 08, 2011 2:45 am

Holt wrote:

yeah,... I did, didn't I?

ahhhhh what the heck......

Dude, If you don't wanna post pics of the block then just say outright that you'd rather not do it..
It's your block and it's your choice, but comments like the above show little respect for members of the forum that joined up in the belief that info like this would be shared..

Oildale Jones · Post by **Oildale Jones** » Tue Nov 08, 2011 3:25 am

I never imagined that looking at a picture of a guy in a hat would make me say "Wow." Magic, indeed.

fifthchamber · Post by **fifthchamber** » Tue Nov 08, 2011 5:21 am

Quite honestly, what Holt chooses to chat about here or show isn't such an issue that we need to be vexed that he won't show this block...He contributes so much else that something like that isn't a huge issue eh?

Eric...That hat looks blinding mate...Really well formed...If you DO ever decide to fall outta movies and start a hattery, I'm in for about 4 different hats....

Great work bruv..

ShanghaiJack · Post by **ShanghaiJack** » Tue Nov 08, 2011 9:39 am

fifthchamber wrote:Quite honestly, what Holt chooses to chat about here or show isn't such an issue that we need to be vexed that he won't show this block...He contributes so much else that something like that isn't a huge issue eh?

I guess that depends on whether or not you are looking for a vintage block with Raidersesque proportions. Holt has obviously found one and it would obviously help others who are looking to do the same if he would post photos and measurements. Of course he doesn't have to share this information, although it would certainly be much appreciated. There comes a point when asking questions and being ignored does become quite vexing.

At any rate, that is a beautiful looking hat, Holt. Congratulations on finding such a wonderful block.

Post by **Holt** » Tue Nov 08, 2011 9:51 am

I have never said anyting about giving out measurments. photos yes, but have decided not to. a few of you know why I have not reposted any photos. I know it would be much appreciated and I am sorry to not repost but there is a reason for why I have not done it and it was strongly suggested (which I agree with) to not post photos or measurments if I decide on going down that rabbithole that has opend up to me.

sorry guys!

steerpike · Post by **steerpike** » Tue Nov 08, 2011 10:07 am

Holt, this time you surpassed yourself! What a wonderful work we have here..

Kim Hoffman · Post by **Kim Hoffman** » Tue Nov 08, 2011 11:40 am

No reason for Holt to give away the secrets to his success. Good work. If I wasn't already waiting for a hat I would greatly tempted.

Post by **Holt** » Tue Nov 08, 2011 12:10 pm

thanks

ShanghaiJack · Post by **ShanghaiJack** » Tue Nov 08, 2011 12:51 pm

Kim Hoffman wrote:No reason for Holt to give away the secrets to his success. Good work. If I wasn't already waiting for a hat I would greatly tempted.

I guess we are all lucky that the original founders of IndyGear did not feel the same way. Heck, I remember when Steve Delk freely gave out his blockmaker's contact info so gearheads could buy their own copies of his block!

And before anyone flames me, I understand that it is completely up to Holt if he chooses to not share information, be it photos, measurements, techniques, etc., but I don't have to like it nor do I have to remain silent.

Now, if he had said at the very beginning, in the original thread –viewtopic.php?f=1&t=53565– when he first removed the photos of the block something along the lines of "I have decided to take the photos of my block down as I am considering starting my own hat shop" or even "At the request of several well known hat makers I have decided to take down the photos of my hat block" I would have shut up about it, and even if I hadn't liked it I would have understood the reasons behind his actions and would have accepted them. That is not what was done however, and for some time I was under the impression that new photos of the block were coming. I actually held off purchasing a vintage block I had been eyeing because I thought I could better confirm if it was the right size and shape after comparing it to Holt's block. I unfortunately waited too long and that block has been sold. After some time had passed Holt made a joke that he no longer had the block because he had used it for firewood! I mean, come on, how hard would it be to give a simple, honest answer? That's all I want, just the reason, one gearhead and fellow Indy fan to another, as to why he took the photos down. Is that really too much to ask?

Regards,
Brian

Hollowpond · Post by **Hollowpond** » Tue Nov 08, 2011 1:28 pm

Well Jack, here's how I see it (and according to your post, its the way you see it too

)...the block, as well as the pictures of aforementioned block, are Holt's to do with what he pleases. The decision to share the reasons he does not care to share the block are his as well. His comment that he burned the block was clearly tongue in cheek. He never meant for anyone to believe he had destroyed it, and I'm sure no one did.
You have voiced your complaint and we all have read it. No one is asking you to be happy about it. But unless you have anything that is relevant to the Last Crusade/CS hat (which is what this thread is dedicated to) to add, lets move things along and not run this into the ground.

darthbish · Post by **darthbish** » Tue Nov 08, 2011 3:54 pm

ShanghaiJack wrote:
Kim Hoffman wrote:No reason for Holt to give away the secrets to his success. Good work. If I wasn't already waiting for a hat I would greatly tempted.

I guess we are all lucky that the original founders of IndyGear did not feel the same way. Heck, I remember when Steve Delk freely gave out his blockmaker's contact info so gearheads could buy their own copies of his block!

And before anyone flames me, I understand that it is completely up to Holt if he chooses to not share information, be it photos, measurements, techniques, etc., but I don't have to like it nor do I have to remain silent.

Now, if he had said at the very beginning, in the original thread –viewtopic.php?f=1&t=53565– when he first removed the photos of the block something along the lines of "I have decided to take the photos of my block down as I am considering starting my own hat shop" or even "At the request of several well known hat makers I have decided to take down the photos of my hat block" I would have shut up about it, and even if I hadn't liked it I would have understood the reasons behind his actions and would have accepted them. That is not what was done however, and for some time I was under the impression that new photos of the block were coming. I actually held off purchasing a vintage block I had been eyeing because I thought I could better confirm if it was the right size and shape after comparing it to Holt's block. I unfortunately waited too long and that block has been sold. After some time had passed Holt made a joke that he no longer had the block because he had used it for firewood! I mean, come on, how hard would it be to give a simple, honest answer? That's all I want, just the reason, one gearhead and fellow Indy fan to another, as to why he took the photos down. Is that really too much to ask?

Regards,
Brian

Hear\hear......

Well said Jack, and I for one am sorry to hear that you missed your opp to buy a block..

Hollowpond · Post by **Hollowpond** » Tue Nov 08, 2011 4:02 pm

Last time...move along everyone.

iwantamorganreelbad1 · Tue Nov 08, 2011 8:16 pm

PM sent. Not relating to your block.

backstagejack · Post by **backstagejack** » Thu Nov 17, 2011 7:59 pm

I was always told that the brim wasn't shorter in LC but whenever I try to get my Fed IV to do the LC swoop on the sides, I can never get it to look right. I've always felt to properly do it, you have to have a more oblong shaped head to streth the hat longer.....but maybe not.

Clipper · Post by **Clipper** » Tue Jan 10, 2012 2:06 pm

Wow great hat! I've always loved the look of the last crusade fedora. What are the specs on the brim? To me its a better look for everyday wear. The raiders specs are a bit "bold" (for me) for just wearing to the office, but great for anything outdoors.

Ian · Post by **Ian** » Tue Jan 17, 2012 7:55 am

Reet Eric?,

What have you done regarding the centre dent? Can we see any shots from the top?...I was looking at shots of the LC hat and some of the top shots show a really wide centre dent, almost like a very loose 'C' crown...When I do this on my Penman LC, it changes both the look of the profile and the front slightly......

Cheers dude!!

Ian