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Antiquing brass by ammonia fuming

Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 9:13 pm
by lantzn
Has anyone tried ammonia fuming brass or other metals? It sounds like it gives great results compared to the antiquing solutions.

http://www.whitechapel-ltd.com/ganti.html

Ammonia Fuming
When brass is exposed to an atmosphere of ammonia vapor it develops a green brown oxide finish. This oxide layer is as close as you can come to a natural patina.

The following instructions will allow you to patina smaller items with relative ease, the same principals can be adapted for larger pieces.

You will need a plastic container with a tight lid. We use the white buckets sometimes called "Pickle buckets" that can easily be obtained from hardware stores, breweries and many other sources, any other well sealed plastic container will work. Cut a piece of plywood to make a shelf that will sit a few inches off the bottom. This shelf can sit on three blocks of wood to ensure it remains level. Pour a cup of full strength or "Clear Ammonia" into the bottom of the bucket, place the items for antiquing on the plywood and snap the lid in place. Full strength ammonia can be obtained from architecture offices or print shops with "blueline" facilities, "Clear Ammonia" from the grocery store. It is an extremely unpleasant fluid and should only be handled by competent adults in well ventilated areas or outside.

Depending on the temperature, humidity and freshness of your ammonia the antiquing will take minutes or hours so take the occasional look to see how it is progressing. The color will darken a little and inclusions of verdi-gris will form when the items are removed from the container. You can either leave the finish as is or wax it for a burnished effect.

If you are seriously attempting to fool anyone as to the age of the hardware and furniture you will need to mount the antiqued fitting, then wax and polish it in place. If done with some general understanding of the effects of care and aging on actual antiques the results can be very convincing.

Because the ammonia evaporates fairly quickly leaving only water you will need to replenish or replace it every so often.

Re: Antiquing brass by ammonia fuming

Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 10:39 pm
by Luke Warmwater
*puts on fire helmet* And please do this OUTSIDE and for pity's sake don't add any other chemicals, especially BLEACH. Thank you. *takes off fire helmet*

Re: Antiquing brass by ammonia fuming

Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 6:10 pm
by Ohio Jones
works good! Scuff or remove any finish on the brass..new solid brass items usually are lacquered. Should display a nice array of colors and ultimatly to black throughout the process.

OHIO

Re: Antiquing brass by ammonia fuming

Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 9:57 pm
by lantzn
Ohio Jones wrote:works good! Scuff or remove any finish on the brass..new solid brass items usually are lacquered. Should display a nice array of colors and ultimatly to black throughout the process.

OHIO
What's the easiest way to remove the lacquer? I tried the boiling on some chest locks but all it did was make the lacquer hazy so I could see it. It took forever to scrub of the finish using an automotive paint maroon scuff pad with trying to get into all the tight spots. The other problem with this is that the surface is no longer smooth. I would like to be able to remove the finish and have it look exactly the same before moving onto the antiquing process.

Re: Antiquing brass by ammonia fuming

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 4:13 am
by Kt Templar
If it's a belt buckle? I've burned it off on a gas stove. Make sure you plenty of ventilation!

Paint stripper will probably work too.

Re: Antiquing brass by ammonia fuming

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 8:20 am
by Zoltar
I aged my brass buckle by putting it in a sandwich bag and spraying it with Mr Muscle Foaming Oven Cleaner, check it every day untill it's got the look you want. If it goes green giving it a soak in caustic soda to cleans it up but leaves the brass dull. This has worked for me on a few items so far. :tup:

Re: Antiquing brass by ammonia fuming

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 9:28 am
by Ohio Jones
should be able to soak it in lacquer thinner or some citrastrip...should do the trick