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A real whip for a 12 year old: Experts, suggestions please

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 1:38 pm
by Luke Warmwater
The son of my wife's best friend had a costume whip from Disney that recently met its end at the hands of his toddler brother. I suggested we get him a real whip as a replacement and I'd teach him to crack it (as best I can anyway).

Can any of you suggest a good, easy-to-crack whip for a 12 year old? It should resemble an Indy whip.

Thanks in advance. :TOH:

Re: A real whip for a 12 year old: Experts, suggestions plea

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 2:50 pm
by WhipDude
Can we have a price range? Otherwise we can give you information overload.

A great place to start is a nylon whip. Huntress is my choice for nylon bulls. Affordable and doesn't require as much care as leather. He's waiting time is about a month or so typically.

Re: A real whip for a 12 year old: Experts, suggestions plea

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 4:48 pm
by darksideman13
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Re: A real whip for a 12 year old: Experts, suggestions plea

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 4:52 pm
by Luke Warmwater
Well, hopefully less than $200.

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Re: A real whip for a 12 year old: Experts, suggestions plea

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 6:11 pm
by WhipDude
Off the top of my head, I'm not aware of any leather whips under $200 that will give great performance and longevity. It sounds like nylon might be a good choice for you.

I suppose you could check for a used leather whip.

What other info are you looking for when looking for this whip?

Re: A real whip for a 12 year old: Experts, suggestions plea

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 6:31 pm
by Hollowpond
Both of my kids own a Steve Huntress nylon "baby bull" 3 ft bull whip, and they are great! Heck, my oldest won the science fair with his 2 years ago. I am about to upgrade him to a nylon 5 footer from Steve for his birthday though

Re: A real whip for a 12 year old: Experts, suggestions plea

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 6:57 pm
by Luke Warmwater
Sounds like a nylon whip might be the way to go. The kids is an Indiana Jones fan, not a gearhead, so it doesn't have to be SA.

Re: A real whip for a 12 year old: Experts, suggestions plea

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 7:25 pm
by Hollowpond
No time like the present to teach them that SA is not a requisite for being a gearhead!!!! :TOH:

Re: A real whip for a 12 year old: Experts, suggestions plea

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 8:47 pm
by Luke Warmwater
Striving for SA is my definition of a gearhead. Otherwise, we'd all be running around in brown nylon windbreakers and DP hats. :lol:

Re: A real whip for a 12 year old: Experts, suggestions plea

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 9:52 pm
by WhipDude
http://neawhips.com/themewhips.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I can only praise his work so far. I know a lot of other people like his work also.

Re: A real whip for a 12 year old: Experts, suggestions plea

Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 12:36 am
by Chewbacca Jones
I have never dealt with him but, the price range is right;
http://www.classicbullwhips.com/prices- ... -info.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: A real whip for a 12 year old: Experts, suggestions plea

Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 8:38 am
by fenris
Isn't Todd's offering shorter whips? I think they have a 4ft now.

Re: A real whip for a 12 year old: Experts, suggestions plea

Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 8:42 am
by WhipDude
Fenris, true. They are nice costume whips (not an insult.) But I believe our friend is looking for a whip designed to crack. While Todd's whips do crack, they are designed for looks and won't last very long. A good nylon whip will cost more but with stand the abuse of a new whip cracker. :TOH:

Re: A real whip for a 12 year old: Experts, suggestions plea

Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 8:44 am
by indyclone
todds has a 4 ft whip for $49.95
all leather, authentic 12 plait pattern (the number of strands that are braided around the whip), 8" handle, alum-tanned white hide fall, twisted thread cracker, 6" braided wrist loop, 4 bight 3 pass turk's head knot on the handle and 4 bight 2 pass turk's head at the handle/thong transition.

Re: A real whip for a 12 year old: Experts, suggestions plea

Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 12:10 pm
by WhipDude
Is that whip built like all his previous? If the quality has improved then fine. Otherwise it doesn't make sense to use a costume whip to do serious whip cracking. There's been issues with these in the past.

If they have improved ,he'd probably need longer then 4 ft. That's short and requires fast reflexes and more knowledge typically.

Re: A real whip for a 12 year old: Experts, suggestions plea

Posted: Sun May 01, 2011 11:15 am
by riku1914
WhipDude wrote:Is that whip built like all his previous? If the quality has improved then fine. Otherwise it doesn't make sense to use a costume whip to do serious whip cracking. There's been issues with these in the past.

If they have improved ,he'd probably need longer then 4 ft. That's short and requires fast reflexes and more knowledge typically.
7-8 ft. i found best when i first started, it wasn't so long that your motions needed to be perfect to keep from hitting yourself,

but it wasn't so short that you need to move very quickly to avoid it hitting itself or getting tangled.

If you can't find one for less than $200 that resembled an indy whip, get a nylon one, they'll look fine enough like an indy,

be fairly cheap, and will require just about no keep up work.

I'm sure someone already recommended this, so i second/third/whatever this.

Re: A real whip for a 12 year old: Experts, suggestions plea

Posted: Sun May 01, 2011 12:29 pm
by Long John Tinfoil
I got a 4' nylon snakewhip from rjallan70 that I've been very pleased with. His nylon whips are pretty reasonably priced and I don't recall ever seeing any negative comments about his quality or service (which was top-notch from my viewpoint).

His website is

http://nylonwhips.com/

LJ

Re: A real whip for a 12 year old: Experts, suggestions plea

Posted: Sun May 01, 2011 1:36 pm
by classicbullwhips
Rjallan70 is not making whips anymore. Rhett Kelley now has the nylonwhips.com domain.

Keep Crackin,
James

Re: A real whip for a 12 year old: Experts, suggestions plea

Posted: Sun May 01, 2011 2:21 pm
by WhipDude
Yep. I know classic bullwhips was mentioned up there. I don't recall anything negative either so I'd look into them.

Rhett makes great nylon whips as well. He's also be another person to look into.

Re: A real whip for a 12 year old: Experts, suggestions plea

Posted: Sun May 01, 2011 2:40 pm
by riku1914
WhipDude wrote:Yep. I know classic bullwhips was mentioned up there. I don't recall anything negative either so I'd look into them.

Rhett makes great nylon whips as well. He's also be another person to look into.
http://www.cowwhips.com/order/

can get a 6ft. nylon bullwhip ( which you can ask to have indy style ) for $200. Shipping is $8 for US, other shipping methods are

also accepted. *

( I sound like the guy speaking fast at the end of infomercials :lol: )

Re: A real whip for a 12 year old: Experts, suggestions plea

Posted: Sun May 01, 2011 4:35 pm
by thefish
Steve Huntress @ Noreast Whips. 6' nylon "Catalyst" bullwhip: $85

http://neawhips.com/catalyst.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Great "starter," good weight, excellent balance, throws straight, ZERO maintenance, (save for popper replacement,) and will take a beating and a half.

If the kid takes to it, they might expand on their collection, but they'll never "Outgrow" this whip.

Re: A real whip for a 12 year old: Experts, suggestions plea

Posted: Sun May 01, 2011 7:05 pm
by riku1914
thefish wrote:Steve Huntress @ Noreast Whips. 6' nylon "Catalyst" bullwhip: $85

http://neawhips.com/catalyst.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Great "starter," good weight, excellent balance, throws straight, ZERO maintenance, (save for popper replacement,) and will take a beating and a half.

If the kid takes to it, they might expand on their collection, but they'll never "Outgrow" this whip.
he wants it to resemble an indy whip though, the standard 7-8 ft. one here
would be good.

16 plait i would recommend even though the indy leather whips are 12.

Re: A real whip for a 12 year old: Experts, suggestions plea

Posted: Sun May 01, 2011 8:19 pm
by Long John Tinfoil
classicbullwhips wrote:Rjallan70 is not making whips anymore. Rhett Kelley now has the nylonwhips.com domain.

Keep Crackin,
James
Ooops! Didn't know that...

LJ

Re: A real whip for a 12 year old: Experts, suggestions plea

Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 4:30 pm
by Indiana County Jr.
Long John Tinfoil wrote:
classicbullwhips wrote:Rjallan70 is not making whips anymore. Rhett Kelley now has the nylonwhips.com domain.

Keep Crackin,
James
Ooops! Didn't know that...

LJ
Ditto for me.. when did he stop and why?

Re: A real whip for a 12 year old: Experts, suggestions plea

Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 4:38 pm
by Kt Templar
Giovanni Celeste's 'Little Raider' is a nice lightweight starter whip. Not sure what the current price equates to in dollars.

Re: A real whip for a 12 year old: Experts, suggestions plea

Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2011 11:57 am
by stoneman
I don't believe Rhett Kelley of cowwhips.com is taking orders at the moment. I may be wrong, but last I checked his blog his list was just too long to be taking more orders for the time being.

Re: A real whip for a 12 year old: Experts, suggestions plea

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 7:26 pm
by Indiana Joe
riku1914 wrote:
WhipDude wrote:Yep. I know classic bullwhips was mentioned up there. I don't recall anything negative either so I'd look into them.

Rhett makes great nylon whips as well. He's also be another person to look into.
http://www.cowwhips.com/order/

can get a 6ft. nylon bullwhip ( which you can ask to have indy style ) for $200. Shipping is $8 for US, other shipping methods are

also accepted. *

( I sound like the guy speaking fast at the end of infomercials :lol: )
I usually start the kids out when they're nine or ten and have them start on my 6 ft Rhett Kelley cowwhip...I got it in 2004 for $87 shipped. I also have a 4 ft leather one from Kyle Schold (does he still chime in?) but the two handle quite differently.

For taller kids you could try Tim Bass. He used to make great nylon whips, much thicker than Rhett's (dont know if Bass still makes them). I bought an 8 footer from Tim right after he won a nylon whipmaking competition in Dallas.