Club Obi Wan

Well i have been looking at some leather recently, and i thought i'd ask some of you about it, i asked Bernie Wojcicki through an

email briefly but i always like second opinions.

1: what do you guys think about sheep hides, anyone ever used it? results?

2:http://www.brettunsvillage.com/leather/sides.htm

please look at the :

INDIE'S PULL-UP SIDES

and

CARBON!!
Full Cowhides, Upholstery or Garment Leather from Royal Hide

Shipping is included in all the prices.

What i'm mainly wanting to know, what do you think of these leathers, will they be good for whips or not? I'll be splitting them

down to my desired size so thickness is not a problem.

Also are the prices good.

The black leather comes @ $155 for a full hide, shipping included in the price,

$85 for a side, again shipping included,

$50 for a quarter hide ( wouldn't get one just throwing it there for the sake of... soemthing )

and the Indie's pull up sides are $85 , again shipping included.

http://www.leprevo.co.uk/hides.htm

I've been considering the kip hides from this place, but I have yet to call them to ask how much shipping is to the US, if it's not

too bad, then the price is excellent for kip hide, but if shipping is killer then i'll just be using regular ole cowhide.

Thanks in advance, i appreciate anyone who takes the time to read this long thread,'
riku

Hey Riku,

I would recommend not using leather that is classified as upholstery or garment for whipmaking. While this leather looks very nice it is to soft/spongy for the pulling tension required. I would recommend staying with English Kip or Tooling Cowhide if you don't want to go with kangaroo, these types of leather can take the pulling without snapping while plaiting. I personally have never used sheep hide but I imagine it being very similar to the upholstery or garment hides. Hope that helps.

Keep Crackin,
James

classicbullwhips wrote:Hey Riku,

I would recommend not using leather that is classified as upholstery or garment for whipmaking. While this leather looks very nice it is to soft/spongy for the pulling tension required. I would recommend staying with English Kip or Tooling Cowhide if you don't want to go with kangaroo, these types of leather can take the pulling without snapping while plaiting. I personally have never used sheep hide but I imagine it being very similar to the upholstery or garment hides. Hope that helps.

Keep Crackin,
James

Ok so the carbon one is no good, what about the indie's pull up sides? First one on that page.

http://www.tandyleatherfactory.com/sear ... 57-34.aspx
???

I'm trying to find good priced things cuz i'm on a kind of tight budget.



Again, i'll be splitting it anyway so the thickness is not a problem.

It's not a question of the thickness, but of the type of tanning.

I second the recommendations given to you.

Canuck Digger wrote:It's not a question of the thickness, but of the type of tanning.

I second the recommendations given to you.

Yeah i know i'm just saying that when i show the hides up there, there think about it's thickness because i will split them, just look

at what they are,







http://www.tandyleatherfactory.com/sear ... 57-34.aspx

these are tooling hides, is there any reason i shouldn't get these? great price.

I would say for your 1st whip use what ever is cheap and then spend some money on quailty leather when you get your strand cutting down pat

hit80s wrote:I would say for your 1st whip use what ever is cheap and then spend some money on quailty leather when you get your strand cutting down pat

This one is cheap and veg. tanned:

h[url]ttp://www.tandyleatherfactory.com/search/sear ... 57-35.aspx[/url]

Think i might use it

edit: I have another question, how do you determine what needs to be added to the handle to balance it at the end? You can't

exactly weigh the handle and thong separately, so how is it determined it anything needs to be added?

hit80s wrote:I would say for your 1st whip use what ever is cheap and then spend some money on quailty leather when you get your strand cutting down pat

I would have to recommend against this. The reason being is that it is actually a lot easier to learn to cut strands from quality leather and you should have far less waste. (I found out from experience when I first started, you will spend less in the long run and it's easier to work with) I would go with the tooling leather if I was to give a personal recommendation.

Keep Crackin,
James

classicbullwhips wrote:

hit80s wrote:I would say for your 1st whip use what ever is cheap and then spend some money on quailty leather when you get your strand cutting down pat

I would have to recommend against this. The reason being is that it is actually a lot easier to learn to cut strands from quality leather and you should have far less waste. (I found out from experience when I first started, you will spend less in the long run and it's easier to work with) I would go with the tooling leather if I was to give a personal recommendation.

Keep Crackin,
James

sweet thanks i found cheap veg. tanned tooling leather yay me