The Twins.

Rundquist · Post by **Rundquist** » Thu Oct 09, 2003 9:13 pm

Here are my new Flight Suits (Gibson & Barnes) Expedition and historical A-2, both done in chrome tanned russet goatskin with olive drab stitching. I’m ecstatic to say the least. The color is really great (especially for Indy fans with an open mind). I’ve included a close-up of the Expedition lining to show how it opens up (a pleated back is pretty much window dressing without a pleated lining). I’ll try to post some pics with the jackets on in the future. Cheers

Harry Steele · Post by **Harry Steele** » Thu Oct 09, 2003 10:58 pm

Those jackets look fantastic, Rundquist. The russet goat Expo is outstanding. Great choice. The A-2 is sweeeeet. Did you get the A-2 with a collar stand or without?

Boy, that russet will look great complemented by your hats ... Morocco tan, etc.

Good health and high adventure,

Harry

IndianaJames · Post by **IndianaJames** » Thu Oct 09, 2003 11:58 pm

Olive stitching, thats bad a*s!

How long does it take flightsuits to custom make a jacket?

IJ

Indiana Joe · Post by **Indiana Joe** » Fri Oct 10, 2003 5:27 am

Those are beautiful! The scallops on your A-2 looks like the pocket flaps in the Stars! picture. Very nice jackets.

I.J.

IndianaCollins · Post by **IndianaCollins** » Fri Oct 10, 2003 8:28 am

That color Expo looks AWSOME!!! I presume you had to pay extr for that, correct? I'm just curious because I'm hoping to buy a Expo soon. That A-2 looks really great too. I just recently got a Gibson and Barnes catalog, and have been drooling over the jackets in there ever since.

Farnham54 · Post by **Farnham54** » Fri Oct 10, 2003 9:45 am

those are some beutiful jackets, Rundiquist. I hope I can join your state of ecstatic-ness in a few weeks!

Regards,

Farn

Bushman · Post by **Bushman** » Fri Oct 10, 2003 9:58 am

I always thought an Indy jacket would look great in russet. Boy, does it ever!

(The A-2 is swell, too!

)

Wear them in good health,

Bushman

junior · Post by **junior** » Fri Oct 10, 2003 1:20 pm

Rundquist, how is that chrome tanned russett goatskin different from the veg-tanned goatskin I talked about on the thread I posted earlier this week titled "Just received the best leather sample I've ever seen"?
http://www.indygear.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4927

Looks nice.

junior

Rundquist · Post by **Rundquist** » Fri Oct 10, 2003 1:22 pm

Thanks for the compliments guys. Ill see I can randomly answer some of the questions. First off, the A-2 that I got does not have the collar stand, although Flightsuits can certainly do them. I believe that it takes FS roughly about 2 weeks to do a custom jacket (give or take a week). The jacket color did not cost any extra. FS will make any jacket out of any leather. The only leather that there might be limits on is their historical goatskin A-2 Leather. At the moment, this Expedition is my favorite Indy jacket. Cheers

Dr._J · Post by **Dr._J** » Fri Oct 10, 2003 1:28 pm

I was fortunate enough to see both these fine jackets last night and they are AWESOME!!! Wow! I really love the A2! The color is gorgeous and the olive stitching really gives it a unique, millitary look! FS does it again! Congratulation to the proud Papa of these beatiful babies! They do you proud!

Regards,

Dr. J

Rundquist · Post by **Rundquist** » Fri Oct 10, 2003 1:48 pm

junior wrote:Rundquist, how is that chrome tanned russett goatskin different from the veg-tanned goatskin I talked about on the thread I posted earlier this week titled "Just received the best leather sample I've ever seen"?
http://www.indygear.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4927

Looks nice.

junior

The major difference is the softness of the chrome goat. Vegetable tanned leathers are stiffer (more military like). The colors are pretty much the same. Once the leathers break in, they’re very similar anyway. The Veg. tanned just takes longer to break in. Cheers

junior · Post by **junior** » Fri Oct 10, 2003 2:06 pm

Thanks Rundquist. Let me ask you another question.

You said that this new russett goat Expo is your favorite. Why is that? Is it just the color difference and the Expo style looks good in russett or something else? After seeing the Indy jacket in dark and/oo seal brown for years and years, it is indeed wierd seeing that jacket in a russett color.

Comments?

junior

Sergei · Post by **Sergei** » Fri Oct 10, 2003 2:20 pm

Not to answer for Rundquist. But it's truly a unique Raiders jacket. The color and the "olive drab" stitching really make it stand out. I agree with Rundquist that after awhile the eye starts to get tired seeing the same color, same style. It's similar to him putting on the "bound edge" to his morocan tan Indy fedora. It's just different.

Rundquist · Post by **Rundquist** » Fri Oct 10, 2003 2:25 pm

Thanks Sergei. That was a perfect answer. Cheers

SHARPETOYS · Post by **SHARPETOYS** » Fri Oct 10, 2003 4:18 pm

Please ship the old kids to me.There is no need to get these newborns upset

junior · Post by **junior** » Fri Oct 10, 2003 6:09 pm

I was just told that you can get the Expo made in the veg-goat but A. It costs more to do so because of the quality...my sample can attest to that, and B. they advise against it as it is a thicker and more stiff leather that will not drape or hang like the Expedition is suppossed to.

Makes sense,

junior

Rundquist · Post by **Rundquist** » Fri Oct 10, 2003 6:24 pm

Here are a few more pics. You’ll have to excuse my shirt being out

. Although the goatskin on this jacket is soft (it’s softer than my seal goatskin originally was when new), it still needs to break in and loosen up. I’ll take some more pics in six months. Cheers

Rixter · Post by **Rixter** » Fri Oct 10, 2003 7:39 pm

Thanks for showing these extra pix. It’s always nice see how the jacket looks while being worn. I’m sure your new Expedition, now being your “favorite Indy jacket” will get plenty of ‘breakin’ in time.’

Was there any reason you didn’t cover your A-2 with a name tag or any of the historical patches? Seems like an A-2, especially in that color, simply cries out for them.

Rundquist · Post by **Rundquist** » Fri Oct 10, 2003 8:28 pm

At the moment, it is my only A-2. If I get an other one, then I’ll put stuff on it. The moment you put patches or decals on a jacket you loose it’s dress factor (ability to wear with a tie) and it’s ability to be worn with a fedora. Cheers

feathers73 · Post by **feathers73** » Wed Jan 31, 2007 8:56 pm

I saw this post and thought you could answer a question for me. I have a historical horsehide A-2 by G&B and want to order an expedition. I'm a big guy and I wear a 48 Tall. How was the sizing between your G&B A-2 and Expo? My A-2 fits perfect. I am most concerned about the shoulders and sleeve length.

Any other folks in the same boat?

Thanks

SHARPETOYS · Post by **SHARPETOYS** » Wed Jan 31, 2007 10:01 pm

I have both jackets in 48R and they fit just fine. A 2 is horse and Exp. in goat.

davyjones007 · Post by **davyjones007** » Thu Feb 01, 2007 7:11 am

those jackets are smoken'. I really like that A2 in that color. How heavy are those jackets compared to say a Wested goat or lamb?

Garzo · Post by **Garzo** » Thu Feb 01, 2007 12:27 pm

Does anyone know if G&B will still make the Expedition in Russet Goat? It looks very cool. I heard though that G&B don't really do special orders anymore, although I don't see why they wouldn't do one in russet goat. Might be an extra cost though.

Abner1925 · Post by **Abner1925** » Thu Feb 01, 2007 12:46 pm

Here are the leathers currently listed as available, though there may be more not online: http://www.flightsuits.com/leather_leathers.html

They list online, that jackets can be customized for an extra $150:
http://www.flightsuits.com/leather_specialsize.html

Regardless, I would call them to ask Amy Garcia or anyone else you choose: http://www.flightsuits.com/contact.html

Hope this helps.

feathers73 · Post by **feathers73** » Thu Feb 01, 2007 1:15 pm

Can you please re-post the pics. Some are missing. Thanks

PLATON · Post by **PLATON** » Thu Feb 01, 2007 1:21 pm

That historical A2 is fuller on the body as they say?
Or it has military slim cut?

feathers73 · Post by **feathers73** » Thu Feb 01, 2007 3:22 pm

I don't know about the jacket posted here, but my G&B A-2 horsehide is more roomier than any other A-2's I have tried (US Auth, Aero, Eastman etc.).

davyjones007 · Post by **davyjones007** » Thu Feb 01, 2007 9:24 pm

feathers, how do you like your Flightjacket A2? Is it also HH? how are they when it comes to sizes? I need about a 48L and was trying to find a maker that has correct sizing.

Garzo · Post by **Garzo** » Thu Feb 01, 2007 10:46 pm

I have a G&B russet horsehide size 44 and it fits perfectly. I wouldn't say it fits roomy, but rather just right. My Wested Indy horsehide fit a lot "roomier," so much so that I had to have it taken in some. I also have a G&B ANJ-3 size 44 and it also fits perfect. Next time I'm stateside I will definitely pick up an Expedition.

Rundquist · Post by **Rundquist** » Fri Feb 02, 2007 2:49 pm

That particular Expedition was my favorite. I sold it last summer because I dropped some weight and the jacket became too big. I in fact ended up replacing my entire jacket collection.

To answer the question though, Gibson & Barnes jacket sizes are about the same from jacket to jacket (if you fit a zize 48 A-2, a size 48 Expedition will fit). A G&B A-2 is on the more roomy side of the A-2 spectrum I would say. That is not to say that they are “oversized” (like a modern Cooper), they are just cut with a little more room in the torso (like some of the originals). Many people believe that all original A-2’s were slim cut, and that’s not the case.

As far as getting G&B to make you a russet Expedition these days goes, I would say that your chances are slim to none. They’ve really gone out of the custom jacket market. The only “custom” work they’ll do these days is to try to get you a jacket that fits if you aren’t a standard size. If they were to make you a custom russet Expedition for instance, and then you decided you didn’t want it, they’d be stuck with a jacket that they couldn’t sell. They’d have to eat the cost of the leather and the labor. That’s their reasoning and it’s understandable. Cheers

Not long before I sold it.

feathers73 · Post by **feathers73** » Fri Feb 02, 2007 8:04 pm

In regards to the question on my G&B A-2, it is a historical horsehide. Awesome jacket. The leather was very smooth and the fit excellent. I am 6'2" 250lbs and I ordered a 48 Tall or Long whatever they call it. I could probably wear a 50 but the 48 fits fine. It is roomy enough in the chest and body and the sleeves are plenty long yet it still has that trim military look without binding your shoulders. The reason I inquired about the expedition is because I was so happy with the A-2.

The olive stitching looks great. I think Eastman sells one of their contract A-2s with olive stitching. I have a friend that has one and it looks awesome.

I would highly recommend the G&B A-2. It is a lot cheaper than an Aero or Eastman (probably by about $300) and just as nice. The only difference it is a generic A-2 and doesn't match any particular contract specifications.

marco polo · Post by **marco polo** » Sat Feb 03, 2007 12:20 am

Thanks for the pics Rundquist

The Twins.

The Twins.

G&B A-2 Versus Expedition-Question for Rundquist and Oth

Both 48R

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A-2 Versus Expo