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My Wested ROLA Lambskin After 6 Months

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 7:18 am
by Keith Taylor
Hi guys. Long time lurker, first time poster. Thanks for all the helpful info I've been stealing from you without your knowledge over the past year ;)

Around June 2010 I ordered my first Wested Lambskin to join me on a job overseas. After a slight hiccup with delivery (my order was accidentally sent to a customer in Scotland) the jacket reached me in about two weeks.

My first impression - one I'm sure has been shared by many on receiving their first fresh from the box, unspoiled Indy jacket - was a little disappointing. I couldn't imagine how this smooth, pristine, shiny thing could ever become the weather-beaten second skin I was looking for. It hung unflatteringly (is that a real word?) from my frame; the sleeves were too long, and the side straps pointed firmly outward at a 90 degree angle, making it look like my waist had sprouted little leather wings. This is how it looked on the day of delivery:



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With just a week remaining before I left the country I began lightly distressing the jacket. While I had no interest in artificially recreating the kind of wear seen in the movies I was determined to get the 'new' off it, so with various grades of sandpaper I gently troubled the seams, pockets and collar, concentrating on points of natural wear (elbows, wrists and the seams close to the D rings). My memory is a little hazy but I also remember climbing into the shower wearing nothing but the jacket, soaking for a few minutes then wearing it as it dried. Not quite sure from where I got that tip, or for what purpose, but it didn't seem to do any damage.

After the initial light weathering I took the jacket out into the field to get a little of the real thing. For the next four months my shiny new thing was beaten to within an inch of its life on the Mongolian steppe. It lived through two near fatal car accidents, days on the back of a horse, weeks of constant sandstorms in the Gobi Desert, heavy rain, heavier snow and a temperature variation from +40 to -15 Celsius.

This is the jacket post-adventure:

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My observations:

The Good

1.

Peter makes a darn good jacket. I've heard mixed reviews of Wested and of course I can only speak for this one example, but despite the stress I've put the jacket through (seriously, those were some violent car accidents) there isn't a single broken stitch. Well done, Wested.

2.

This jacket only improves and develops character with age.


The Bad

1.

The sleeves and body shorten dramatically with wear. I ordered a 42 regular, and while the sleeves were a little too long as new they are now about half an inch too short (no big deal, though, and an inevitable result of, y'know, bending your arms and producing natural wrinkles).

The body itself has shortened by about an inch. This, I guess, is a result of wearing it with the side straps constantly pulled in as tight as they will go. When I was breaking in the jacket this produced a flattering silhouette, but months of sitting down with the jacket zipped halfway up the body forced it to conform to my seated shape (read 'love handles and slight gut') even while standing, so now the pockets bulge out a little and make me look a little chubbier than I deserve. Again, no big deal.

N.B. Of course this is not so much 'bad' as a tip. If, like me, you have freakishly stumpy legs and an unusually long torso you should probably go for a custom size rather than standard. I'd love to magically gain an extra inch of length on the body of the jacket so my shirts don't occasionally peak out.

2.

Wested's communication and reliability seem to trouble a fair number of customers by the look of the various forums that discuss the company, and my experience with them has been less than perfect. Personally, though, I've decided to give them a bye on this. Any business small enough that its customers give each other advice such as 'You need to speak to Peter. Here's his phone number.' is expected to run a little less smoothly than you'd ideally like. I'm so pleased with the product I can accept a little unreliability as the cost of doing business with craftsmen.



All in all I'd have no problem recommending Wested. I'm off in a few weeks on assignment to India, so I've ordered myself one of the special offer ROLA jackets to break in along the way (hopefully, this time, without any car accidents).

My Wested ROLA Lambskin After 6 Months

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 7:25 am
by djd
Great post! It's nice to know that westeds can survive this sort of punishment! It's definitely a good idea not to use the handwarmer pockets in any of these jackets (sounds like you had good reason to though ;) ) as it does horrible things to the shape of the patch pockets...

Good luck with your next one !

Re: My Wested ROLA Lambskin After 6 Months

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 7:41 am
by Keith Taylor
Thanks :TOH: I have half a mind to plant a couple of mousetraps in the pockets to remind me not to touch them. Saying that, a combination of the temperature in India and the prevalence of light-fingered folk along the way should discourage me from using them on the next trip :)

Re: My Wested ROLA Lambskin After 6 Months

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 9:43 am
by HWaltonJonesJr.Phd
Keith Taylor wrote: It lived through two near fatal car accidents, days on the back of a horse, weeks of constant sandstorms in the Gobi Desert, heavy rain, heavier snow and a temperature variation from +40 to -15 Celsius.
Sounds like a great way to break in an Indy jacket! It held up well, and a near fatal car accident (let alone two) might be a first for distressing.

Re: My Wested ROLA Lambskin After 6 Months

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 9:54 am
by Keith Taylor
and a near fatal car accident (let alone two) might be a first for distressing.
I wouldn't recommend it as a standard technique, but it did the job :)

Re: My Wested ROLA Lambskin After 6 Months

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 11:20 am
by Holt
cool jacket. I see it's an of the rack jacket. I can always tell. but still cool. :TOH: I would pecard it to break it in even more.

Re: My Wested ROLA Lambskin After 6 Months

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 1:36 pm
by donovan
hi,great looking jacket-looks like you swapped the sliders for d rings .i had the d rings but found the straps would pull though them so used the sliders to hold them tight.

Re: My Wested ROLA Lambskin After 6 Months

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 2:01 pm
by Keith Taylor
looks like you swapped the sliders for d rings
Nah, as Indiana Holt guessed this was just a standard off the rack 42, and the D rings were regular spec. The straps do occasionally pull through, but I find that if you pull them taught then tuck the rear ring into the front one it sort of locks in (as seen in the last photo).

Re: My Wested ROLA Lambskin After 6 Months

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 2:04 pm
by Holt
it's weird.. but I ALWAYS liked the look of brass D-rings on a Raiders.

Re: My Wested ROLA Lambskin After 6 Months

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 6:00 pm
by Keith Taylor
Yeah, I'm a big fan of the D rings, and I love the way they've tarnished out in the desert :)

Re: My Wested ROLA Lambskin After 6 Months

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 6:21 pm
by Keith Taylor
Thanks, Michael :TOH: I've got a pretty good story about trading a bargain basement Indy lid for safe passage along the Afghan border at 15,000 feet, but I think I'll leave the tales of adventure to Dr. Jones :)

Re: My Wested ROLA Lambskin After 6 Months

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 8:09 pm
by Noah
Great story! The jacket looks great. It's really been worn and beaten in your adventures. :TOH:

Re: My Wested ROLA Lambskin After 6 Months

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 4:28 pm
by John Vaughan
Sweet jacket! Good to know info too, I have one of these coming my way as I type this. It'll be my second from Wested. I goofed on the first and ordered one a size small #-o The one That's headed my way now is from a fellow fan, so it has a bit of old already worn in. Nice to know they'er tough.

:TOH:
John

Re: My Wested ROLA Lambskin After 6 Months

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 5:00 pm
by Keith Taylor
The biggest drawback of shopping online, John. I can't stand shopping in person but at least I come home with things that fit. This one turned out to be a touch on the big side - not so big as to warrant an exchange, but big enough that I needed to pull the side straps taut (darn, just noticed I misspelled that in an earlier comment) to prove that my navel wasn't really as far from my spine as it looked :)

The one winging its way towards me now is a size smaller thanks to an impromptu diet brought about by a nasty bout of food poisoning. The past six months have taught me two lessons:

1. Know your measurements.

2. Never eat steamed goat served by a woman who lives in a felt tent and has never knowingly washed her hands.

p.s. Yep, tough as heck (blasted hypersensitive profanity filter). These definitely aren't costume jackets.

Re: My Wested ROLA Lambskin After 6 Months

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 6:57 pm
by Texan Scott
Keith Taylor wrote:Image
Show off! :H:

Re: My Wested ROLA Lambskin After 6 Months

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 8:47 pm
by John Vaughan
Keith Taylor wrote:The biggest drawback of shopping online, John. I can't stand shopping in person but at least I come home with things that fit.

1. Know your measurements.

2. Never eat steamed goat served by a woman who lives in a felt tent and has never knowingly washed her hands.

p.s. Yep, tough as heck (blasted hypersensitive profanity filter). These definitely aren't costume jackets.
The one I have coming my way now was measured by the fan in depth, and cool thing is it's right on with my size. Same size as your's by the way, only with a year or so of wear. Not easy wear mind you but was well takin' care of. The price was awesome... :-s steamed goat?...anyway I love the way yours turned out, and can't wait for mine to look the same.

:TOH:

John

Re: My Wested ROLA Lambskin After 6 Months

Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 12:21 am
by Dr. Evil
The photos of the new jacket show it with sliders on the left side and the distressed pictures show D-rings on the right side. Did you accidentally show two different jackets or did Wested really put sliders on the left and D-rings on the right? My ROLA OTR had sliders and my ROTLA OTR had D-rings. MY ROTLA also had that pocket with all the leather around it and the inside facings.

Re: My Wested ROLA Lambskin After 6 Months

Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 5:45 am
by Keith Taylor
Huh, I never noticed that. The original order was for two ROLA's. One got beat to #### by me and the other went to a charity auction for Christina Noble, the outfit I was working with in Mongolia. I guess the photos of the jacket as new are of the other one. In that case, can anyone enlighten me as to the standard OTR spec: sliders or D Rings? These were both supposedly OTR, so it's odd that they'd each have different features.

Now I see what Donovan was talking about earlier about swapping the sliders for D rings. I can probably scratch 'observant' off my list of attributes :)

Definitely a different jacket. I just took a look at my beat up specimen and noticed the 'Made in England' tag sewn beneath the interior pocket, which seems to be missing from the original jacket. Curiouser and curiouser.

Re: My Wested ROLA Lambskin After 6 Months

Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 5:57 am
by John Vaughan
If you 're talking about the third pic there, those are D rings with the flat to the outside. My first Wested came like that. It's an easy thing to turn them in the strap.

Re: My Wested ROLA Lambskin After 6 Months

Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 6:39 am
by Keith Taylor
That explains that, then. It's still a different jacket, though, considering the lack of a Made in England badge.

Re: My Wested ROLA Lambskin After 6 Months

Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 7:13 am
by Kt Templar
Peter has 2 main 'Raiders' jackets off the rack.

1) The 'Raiders' this is the one that has the leather inside the zipper and the larger leather detail around the inside pocket, he considers this his evolved/improved pattern for better durability.

2) The 'Special offer Rola', this is the one with smaller yoke and no facings on the inner pocket it is cut a bit slimmer. (More SA).

The OTR 'Raiders' is usually UK made though some may be made overseas, it can have D-rings or Sliders depending on the machinist!

The OTR 'Rola' is often made overseas but some are UK made too! I think this can sometimes have D-Rings too depending on batch!

The way to tell is the 'Made in England' or "Made in the UK' label. The care label sewn into the seam in the liner also shows UK made if it is.

Yours both appear to be examples of Style 1. The 'new' one foreign made, the 'worn' one UK. IMO.

Re: My Wested ROLA Lambskin After 6 Months

Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 7:29 am
by Keith Taylor
Yep, that sounds about right. I'm unreasonably excited about the arrival of my special offer ROLA - the years of excess are beginning to catch up on me so I don't need the extra bulk of leather facings :)

Re: My Wested ROLA Lambskin After 6 Months

Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 5:30 am
by Keith Taylor
Woohoo! My new 40" special offer lambskin ROLA just arrived. Fits. Like. A. Glove :)

Re: My Wested ROLA Lambskin After 6 Months

Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 8:44 am
by Joeyeah_right
Keith Taylor wrote:Woohoo! My new 40" special offer lambskin ROLA just arrived. Fits. Like. A. Glove :)
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;)

Joe

Re: My Wested ROLA Lambskin After 6 Months

Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 9:06 am
by Keith Taylor
You'll have to give me a couple of hours. I'm hungover and wearing nothing but check blue boxer shorts. This... this isn't that kind of site.

Re: My Wested ROLA Lambskin After 6 Months

Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 9:07 am
by Joeyeah_right
:rolling: :rolling: :rolling:

Joe

Re: My Wested ROLA Lambskin After 6 Months

Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 1:50 pm
by Mitch LaRue
:lol:

Yeah, best to hold off on that, Keith... we don't even care if you think those boxer's might be screen accurate!
:P

Re: My Wested ROLA Lambskin After 6 Months

Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 4:04 pm
by Keith Taylor
If they were this morning they're not any more. Just put a load of laundry in with a freshly re-dyed pair of trousers. Everything I own now has a tint of mustard. At least the jacket is OK :P