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It's made of ...

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 7:08 pm
by Tibor
So, where does all this leave us with when asking what the jacket was made of?...

Peter said lambskin (not shrunken - too small)

Tony said it looked most like shrunken lamb to him

Neil said calf, er cape skin (lamb), er cowhide

We've seen striations, smoother areas, shrunken areas, all on the same jacket. I kinda like my goat, but that's just me. I'm not really concerned about the zipper. It's clearly on the left under the wind flap on screen and that's where it should be. So when it all boils down, I'm more concerned with what's on screen than how it was made. I don't know if the two jive or not, but with a costume department fiddling with things, I guess it doesn't matter.

Maybe the common theme is lamb, and maybe that's the most likely candidate that addresses the wrinkling, the striations, the drape, and the consensus of jacket makers (sort of). Based on the various leathers I've held or owned, I'm inclined to believe it was a vegetable tanned lambskin with some striations - medium/light thickness, somewhat shrunken. I'm not sure it can be replicated these days (I don't know much about tanneries - maybe I don't want to).

Is that where all this has left you, or do you have some other impressions?

Re: It's made of ...

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 8:47 pm
by CM
I could never tell what the jacket was made of. I always thought it was either a thick lamb or a soft cow (calfskin). I tend to think that goat is the best leather for an Indy jacket becasue it combines the softness and weight of lamb with an incredible strength.

Re: It's made of ...

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 8:54 pm
by Indydawg
I like goatskin, too...especially G&B's goatskin...

Regards!
Indydawg

Re: It's made of ...

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 8:59 pm
by Holt
a good drapy soft Goatskin and a good sturdy thread. oh yeah!

Re: It's made of ...

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:04 pm
by Tennessee Smith
I figure that by now the only way we'll know what it's made of is if we have David Carouso from Miami CSI and his forensics team, do a DNA test on the jacket in Skywalker Ranch. But he'll have to tell us face to face, well kind of... he just won't look at us when he tells us... and he'll take off his sunglasses mid-way to emphasize that it’s from a rare breed of mountain goat that went extinct in the late 80's. That way we're all _____.

Re: It's made of ...

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:12 pm
by Indydawg
:rolling: :rolling:

dude....do you know how BAD I want a pair of Horatio Cain sunglasses? Silhouettes, I believe, they are....SO cool!

Uhh....sorry, Holt...so much for the "sturdy thread...."

Back to business 8)
:TOH:
Indydawg

Re: It's made of ...

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:20 pm
by Illinois James
Whoever knows what this hide really is.......is on the LAMB!!!!

Yeaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!



Won' Get Fooled Again!!!!


Silhouette 8568. I bug them sometimes as to why they don't make them anymore. I'm lucky to have some. They're good shades, except when on a motorcycle.

Re: It's made of ...

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:20 pm
by Illinois James
Pulled unicorn.

Re: It's made of ...

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:20 pm
by Holt
dawg, my bad, I ment sturdy sewing thread. I allways keep on forgetting the sewing part. lol.


I too want those glasses but I found out they didnt come wth the CSI music everytime you took them off like you see on screen!?!?!?!

Re: It's made of ...

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:21 pm
by Tennessee Smith
_ wrote:The foreskins of blue whales...
Wouldn't that require a Jewish jacket maker? :Plymouth:

Re: It's made of ...

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:22 pm
by Hollowpond
The scrotum of a T-rex...

Re: It's made of ...

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:26 pm
by binkmeisterRick
Okay, folks, time to reel it in. ;)

Re: It's made of ...

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:30 pm
by Mountaineer
Is it too late to add rich corinthian leather?

Sorry Bink.

Re: It's made of ...

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:46 pm
by Tibor
And why does Horatio always tip his head down to say something with impact... maybe he's insecure like Laurel Bacall was when she started and got in the habit...

Yeah, I like the Nowak Goat Riley made for me. Great dark color, sturdy, great fit. I agree Dawg and Holt. For real world, goat's got it. As for the original, I can almost hear Henry Senior ... "Indiana, let it go".

Re: It's made of ...

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:56 pm
by Mountaineer
_ wrote:
Mountaineer wrote:Is it too late to add rich corinthian leather?

Sorry Bink.
It is NEVER too late for rich Corinthian leather, my friend. Remember - stay thirsty and drink XX beer.
Excellent ad campaign.

Re: It's made of ...

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 5:42 am
by Hollowpond
_ wrote:
Mountaineer wrote:Is it too late to add rich corinthian leather?

Sorry Bink.
It is NEVER too late for rich Corinthian leather, my friend. Remember - stay thirsty and drink XX beer.
He can speak German, in Spanish... :lol:

Re: It's made of ...

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 8:23 am
by KingHamlet
I want a jacket made from kangaroo leather so it pairs nicely with my whip.

Re: It's made of ...

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 8:28 am
by tekors
KingHamlet wrote:I want a jacket made from kangaroo leather so it pairs nicely with my whip.
Not a bad idea... :whip:

Re: It's made of ...

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 8:30 am
by Michaelson
I know one WAS in the works for possible release at the end of the year, but last I heard, that particular hide was put on the backburner....again. Hard to get hold of enough hide to make it worth putting into production, was what I was told.

As far as I know only Wings ever produced one in 'roo, and its surface had dye problems. They didn't carry it but a year, and that was back around 2002 or '03, as I recall. They still turn up on ebay on occasion.

_ had one when they came out.

Regards! Michaelson

Re: It's made of ...

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 8:30 am
by Tennessee Smith
KingHamlet wrote:I want a jacket made from kangaroo leather so it pairs nicely with my whip.

I understand that Roo hide is very resistant to stretching and bounces back to it's original shape easily... #-o :lol:

Re: It's made of ...

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 8:33 am
by Michaelson
I'll hold him...you guys can start beating him when I get a good grip. :-s

:rolling:

Re: It's made of ...

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 8:44 am
by Tennessee Smith
:shock:









:Plymouth:

:lol:

Re: It's made of ...

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 8:58 am
by Gorak
I`m not following this too heavily but is it possible, _, that Neil has an accent and "lamb" can come across as sounding like "calf"..especially since you stated that it could also have been "cape". I don`t know the details but, over the phone, those words can possibly end up sounding the same under certain accents? Hmmmm

Re: It's made of ...

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 10:31 am
by Dr._J
Tennessee Smith wrote:
KingHamlet wrote:I want a jacket made from kangaroo leather so it pairs nicely with my whip.

I understand that Roo hide is very resistant to stretching and bounces back to it's original shape easily... #-o :lol:
Also, it comes with a pouch for easy storage.


\:D/ :Plymouth:

Re: It's made of ...

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 10:40 am
by tekors
Dr._J wrote:
Tennessee Smith wrote:
KingHamlet wrote:I want a jacket made from kangaroo leather so it pairs nicely with my whip.

I understand that Roo hide is very resistant to stretching and bounces back to it's original shape easily... #-o :lol:
Also, it comes with a pouch for easy storage.


\:D/ :Plymouth:
Hahahaha... that's a very nice idea :D

Re: It's made of ...

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 10:44 am
by binkmeisterRick
And a unique zipper pull.

Image

:Plymouth:

Re: It's made of ...

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 11:13 am
by Dr._J
binkmeisterRick wrote:And a unique zipper pull.

Image

:Plymouth:
Nice marble bag.

Re: It's made of ...

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 11:33 am
by tekors
Dr._J wrote:
binkmeisterRick wrote:And a unique zipper pull.

Image

:Plymouth:
Nice marble bag.
:rolling:
:CR:

Re: It's made of ...

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 1:20 pm
by Rundquist
CM wrote:I could never tell what the jacket was made of. I always thought it was either a thick lamb or a soft cow (calfskin). I tend to think that goat is the best leather for an Indy jacket becasue it combines the softness and weight of lamb with an incredible strength.

Lot of good quips in this post :rolling:

I share the same views as CM. For those that want to know what it was made of originally, well, if Paterson says we probably will never know, then we probably will never know.

Even if you knew technically what it was made from, that doesn’t mean that the leather exists anymore, tanned in the same manner anyway. You might just be better off trying to duplicate it the best that you can in a hide that suits you.

If Tony Novak says that the shrunken lamb was the closest to what he examined, then I am inclined to believe him. And yet that hide wasn’t for everyone, either because they didn’t feel that it emulated what they saw on the screen or they just plain didn’t like it. But Tony had so many different leathers, I don’t think that it mattered to him what he made the jacket of. He didn’t have any reason to not tell the truth. In fact the opposite is true. He said that the shrunken lamb wasn’t exactly easy to work with.

I'd go for the calfskin myself (and I might). I don't really need this other kidney. :mrgreen:

Re: It's made of ...

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 2:39 pm
by Indydawg
You might just be better off trying to duplicate it the best that you can in a hide that suits you.
I can unequivocally agree with that, Rundquist!

:TOH:
Indydawg

Re: It's made of ...

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 3:43 pm
by tekors
Indydawg wrote:
You might just be better off trying to duplicate it the best that you can in a hide that suits you.
I can unequivocally agree with that, Rundquist!

:TOH:
Indydawg
Me too...
:TOH:

Re: It's made of ...

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 3:44 pm
by Michaelson
Of course, we've already been doing that for almost 3 decades! :lol: ;)

Regards! Michaelson

Re: It's made of ...

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 4:54 pm
by kwad
It's made of ...
.....People! Indy's jacket is made of PEOPLE!!!!
Image

Sorry, I just couldn't resist that one.....

Re: It's made of ...

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 5:01 pm
by Hollowpond
What in the HECK is happening in the jacket section? There used to be blood and guts and spit and tattered behinds all over this place, and now its open mike night at the improv...It should be noted, that I prefer this though. :TOH:

travis

Re: It's made of ...

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 5:16 pm
by Michaelson
Please refer to the photo above your post. The bodies are still being picked up after the last fight.

Thank you. :TOH:

Regards! Michaelson ;)

Re: It's made of ...

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 5:20 pm
by Hollowpond
Be sure and try the veal...

Re: It's made of ...

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 5:22 pm
by Michaelson
:-0

Re: It's made of ...

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 8:59 pm
by Indydawg
Ahhh...I see my work is done here ;) :TOH:
Indydawg

Re: It's made of ...

Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 1:15 am
by Dragonlady Jones
Chuck Norris has an Indy Jacket he made himself. It's made of Antique Striated Lambcalfhorsegoat hide. And I know what you're thinking...the answer is yes, it's SA.

Re: It's made of ...

Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 1:41 am
by fenris
...and I thought it was pleather... :roll:

Re: It's made of ...

Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 11:05 am
by Ravenswood
WOW Kwad :shock: What a memory!!
At the age of 6 I stood transfixed in front of the family TV when that scene was playing....never thought I'd see it again, having not had a fix on the title. Leave it to the insightful folks here on this forum to bring it all back! :lol:

Now back to our regularly scheduled program, already in progress :TOH:

Re: It's made of ...

Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 3:27 pm
by kwad
Ravenswood,

I'm glad that I could help you remember a traumatic image from your childhood. :TOH:

Re: It's made of ...

Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2010 11:55 am
by Ravenswood
:lol: :anxious:
In all seriousness, I believe Peter's claim that the jacket was made out of veg-tanned sheepskin, AND Neil's claim that it was made out of oiled calfskin. I think both hides could look remarkably similar on screen, and would be quite interchangeable, especially considering the various lighting and action that either jacket would be subject to on the set.

Re: It's made of ...

Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2010 3:47 pm
by Indiana Jeff
kwad wrote:
It's made of ...
.....People! Indy's jacket is made of PEOPLE!!!!
Image

Sorry, I just couldn't resist that one.....

WOW!! Pepsi burns coming out the nose! :cry: Thanks for the laugh. :TOH:

Regards,

Indiana Jeff

Re: It's made of ...

Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2010 5:16 pm
by Michaelson
Ravenswood wrote::lol: :anxious:
In all seriousness, I believe Peter's claim that the jacket was made out of veg-tanned sheepskin, AND Neil's claim that it was made out of oiled calfskin. I think both hides could look remarkably similar on screen, and would be quite interchangeable, especially considering the various lighting and action that either jacket would be subject to on the set.
Can't argue with that. :M: :tup:

Regards! Michaelson

Re: It's made of ...

Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2010 5:34 pm
by kwad
Indiana Jeff wrote:
WOW!! Pepsi burns coming out the nose! :cry: Thanks for the laugh. :TOH
Mission accomplished! :lol: