I'm kind of in between sizes for all my clothes. I have a US wings medium in goat that fits me great. Can anyone tell me what the comparable size in a wested would be? Any info would be appreciated.
Walker
Comparable size wested to a us wings?
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- Michaelson
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Not a good comparison. All Wested jackets are custom made to your specifications, and will fit perfectly, even between sizing. U.S. Wings are off the rack sizing, and sized much larger than their actual chart. For example, what they list as a medium to fit up to a size 40, actually fits 42 to almost a 44! The large sizes well up to at least a 46. By their own chart, I fall solidily in the middle of their large sizing, and yet I get totally LOST inside any of their large jacket offerings. I looked like a kid who was trying on his Dad's jacket. I have actually seen and handled Wested's that were sized for a size 39! They can make it anyway YOU need it, so if you're between sizes, you're looking at the right folks, A custom made jacket, and costs less than anything Wings sells. So, to answer your question, if you have a medium Wings that fits fine, you're probably a 42R. Just be sure to measure your sleeves, then add about an inch when ordering a Wested. You have to account for rideup of the leather at the elbows after wear. Regards. Michaelson
I have to agree. I own a Wested in size 39. I believe it is considered a 39S (Small). At the time, I fell between two sizes. (Un)fortunately I lost enough weight where a 38 is more applicable. If you are careful giving accurate measurements, the correct size will be determined for you. If in doubt, you can have a local tailor measure you. Otherwise, you are comparing apples to oranges.Michaelson writes:
I have actually seen and handled Wested's that were sized for a size 39!
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Just to give my two cents on this issue.
I normally wear a 42R in a suit. I like to have an extra inch or
so of movement room in my clothes as I don't like tight stuff. Plus,
this way, if I gain weight, like most every other human being on
earth does as they age, my things tend to fit me for a longer
period of time.
Anyway, I tried a Wings medium, and it fit, but was not quite
big enough to really move around in. If you laid the Wings
medium jacket (which was a pre-distressed by the way) on
the bed, with the zipper zipped up, and measured the jacket
across the chest, from under one armpit to the other, it measured
out at 23 inches. That translates to a 46 inch total chest measurement.
So, being a size 42 that I am, that leaves 4 inches of movement
room, which, according to old military standards, is about right
for a coat. But as I said, I like a little more movement room, so
I went with a large.
So, my current Wings size Large pre-distressed jacket,
measured the same way on the bed, measures out to be 25
inches across the chest under the arms, which would put that
at a total chest measurement of 50 inches. This gives me 8
inches of movement room, which is what LL Bean and other
vendors of modern garments recommend for a coat. This is
just slightly on the too big size for me, but again, as I said,
as I get fatter, the jacket will fit better.
And, I have a new Wested Authentic Lamb that I just got from
Peter, and I ordered a size 44R with an extra inch added to the
front length of the jacket, as these jackets tend to "ride up" in
the front, and I did not want that. This extra inch is PERFECT in
keeping the ride up from happening.
So, my new Wested Size 44, when measured the same way
as the two Wings jackets, has a chest measurement, from
armpit to armpit of 24 inches. This gives it a total chest measurement
of 48 inches, which leaves me with 6 inches of movement room.
This to me is the PERFECT amount!
So, you can see that the normal Wested measurements follow
the old military sizing of 4 inches above ticket size for your
movement room. Example: a size 44 jacket has a chest measurement
of 48 inches. A guy with a chest of 44 inches would then have
the 4 inches of movement room. A size 42 Wested would have a
chest measurement of 46 inches, and if a guy who had say a 40
inches chest tried it on, he would then have 6 inches of movement
room.
Most of my LL Bean and Lands' End jackets are a size large, and
they all fall pretty much in the 25 inch across the chest measurement
which puts their actual chest measurement at 50 inches just
like the Wings large.
I also have an Aero Redskin Shearling jacket, in size 44R, and
it has a total chest measurement of just over 51 inches. It was
made to fit over an A2 or other warm cloths. My Real McCoys
B-6, in size 44, has a total chest measurement of 48 inches, as
it was designed for fitting in a tighter cockpit, and the pilot had
less of a chance of snagging the jacket on something.
I included that as a reference if you need the info. If you measure
any of your current jackets and coats in the manner in which I
described, and you find one that fits good to your liking, lay it
down on the bed, zip it up, and measure it across the chest from
armpit to armpit. What ever measurement you get, double it, and
that will be the jackets total chest measurement. Subtract 4 inches
from that number, and that will give you the correct size Wested
to start from.
So, knowing that Wested uses the normal military fit of 4 inches
of movement room over ticket size per jacket, you would need a size 44 Wested,
as that is the size with a 48 inch total chest measurement. If
your ordered a size 42 Wested, it would only have a total chest
measurement of 46 iches, and that would be too snug for your
likeing as you now know you like 7 inches of movement room,
and a size 42 would only give you 5 inches of movement room. See?
If you fall inbetween sizes, its always best to go up to the next
whole size.
I hope this is helpful to you. I know it is long, but I couldn't
really shorten it as I am too lazy.
Flathead
I normally wear a 42R in a suit. I like to have an extra inch or
so of movement room in my clothes as I don't like tight stuff. Plus,
this way, if I gain weight, like most every other human being on
earth does as they age, my things tend to fit me for a longer
period of time.
Anyway, I tried a Wings medium, and it fit, but was not quite
big enough to really move around in. If you laid the Wings
medium jacket (which was a pre-distressed by the way) on
the bed, with the zipper zipped up, and measured the jacket
across the chest, from under one armpit to the other, it measured
out at 23 inches. That translates to a 46 inch total chest measurement.
So, being a size 42 that I am, that leaves 4 inches of movement
room, which, according to old military standards, is about right
for a coat. But as I said, I like a little more movement room, so
I went with a large.
So, my current Wings size Large pre-distressed jacket,
measured the same way on the bed, measures out to be 25
inches across the chest under the arms, which would put that
at a total chest measurement of 50 inches. This gives me 8
inches of movement room, which is what LL Bean and other
vendors of modern garments recommend for a coat. This is
just slightly on the too big size for me, but again, as I said,
as I get fatter, the jacket will fit better.
And, I have a new Wested Authentic Lamb that I just got from
Peter, and I ordered a size 44R with an extra inch added to the
front length of the jacket, as these jackets tend to "ride up" in
the front, and I did not want that. This extra inch is PERFECT in
keeping the ride up from happening.
So, my new Wested Size 44, when measured the same way
as the two Wings jackets, has a chest measurement, from
armpit to armpit of 24 inches. This gives it a total chest measurement
of 48 inches, which leaves me with 6 inches of movement room.
This to me is the PERFECT amount!
So, you can see that the normal Wested measurements follow
the old military sizing of 4 inches above ticket size for your
movement room. Example: a size 44 jacket has a chest measurement
of 48 inches. A guy with a chest of 44 inches would then have
the 4 inches of movement room. A size 42 Wested would have a
chest measurement of 46 inches, and if a guy who had say a 40
inches chest tried it on, he would then have 6 inches of movement
room.
Most of my LL Bean and Lands' End jackets are a size large, and
they all fall pretty much in the 25 inch across the chest measurement
which puts their actual chest measurement at 50 inches just
like the Wings large.
I also have an Aero Redskin Shearling jacket, in size 44R, and
it has a total chest measurement of just over 51 inches. It was
made to fit over an A2 or other warm cloths. My Real McCoys
B-6, in size 44, has a total chest measurement of 48 inches, as
it was designed for fitting in a tighter cockpit, and the pilot had
less of a chance of snagging the jacket on something.
I included that as a reference if you need the info. If you measure
any of your current jackets and coats in the manner in which I
described, and you find one that fits good to your liking, lay it
down on the bed, zip it up, and measure it across the chest from
armpit to armpit. What ever measurement you get, double it, and
that will be the jackets total chest measurement. Subtract 4 inches
from that number, and that will give you the correct size Wested
to start from.
So, knowing that Wested uses the normal military fit of 4 inches
of movement room over ticket size per jacket, you would need a size 44 Wested,
as that is the size with a 48 inch total chest measurement. If
your ordered a size 42 Wested, it would only have a total chest
measurement of 46 iches, and that would be too snug for your
likeing as you now know you like 7 inches of movement room,
and a size 42 would only give you 5 inches of movement room. See?
If you fall inbetween sizes, its always best to go up to the next
whole size.
I hope this is helpful to you. I know it is long, but I couldn't
really shorten it as I am too lazy.
Flathead