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Southbeachleather Indy Jacket - quality??

Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 12:43 pm
by bargle
I'm new here as many of you know so I apologize for my limited knowledge on this subject. In my quest for an inexpensive jacket option I came across these guys. They sell online via their store (and on eBay). I'm wondering if anyone can offer an opinion on it. I've seen pics of the back and they appear to be cut correctly with no extra seams or panels. Thanks.
http://www.southbeachleather.com/indian ... acket.html

Re: Southbeachleather Indy Jacket - quality??

Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 12:45 pm
by Texan Scott
If you are looking for a bargain, far better to go with a Todd's std.

Re: Southbeachleather Indy Jacket - quality??

Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 12:47 pm
by nicktheguy
I've actually never heard of these guys. For that price I would think it would be best to get on the special Indy priced advanced order Wings, or an OTR Wested perhaps? Anyone else?

Re: Southbeachleather Indy Jacket - quality??

Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 12:47 pm
by nicktheguy
Texan Scott wrote:If you are looking for a bargain, far better to go with a Todd's std.
I was going to mention that as well

Re: Southbeachleather Indy Jacket - quality??

Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 12:57 pm
by binkmeisterRick
And considering their write up is grammatically atrocious, and their leather looks like plastic, I'd agree with the Todd's assessment if you're after a good Indy jacket at an inexpensive price point.

Re: Southbeachleather Indy Jacket - quality??

Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 1:20 pm
by nicktheguy
Bargle,
You DO remember that US Wings Indy I sold at my garage sale a couple years ago for $100! ](*,)

Re: Southbeachleather Indy Jacket - quality??

Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 1:38 pm
by bargle
nicktheguy wrote:Bargle,
You DO remember that US Wings Indy I sold at my garage sale a couple years ago for $100! ](*,)
I think I do. Wasn't I standing there when the guy tried it on?
I'd like to believe that it didn't fit me so I didn't want to buy it from you... but truthfully, I think I just didn't know what it was at time.
:cry:
Let me know when you're selling the next one, if there is a next time.

Re: Southbeachleather Indy Jacket - quality??

Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 3:30 pm
by JC1972
Stay away from them! I ordered one as my 1st Indy jacket trying to go cheap. Well you know what they say about buying cheap. Besides the quality being cheap, the jacket was way too small as the woman I spoke with ignored my measurements.

Re: Southbeachleather Indy Jacket - quality??

Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 3:54 pm
by raider 57
OOHH BOY!!! Didn't you guys see????

They will soon be offering a whip, "for customers who wants to order"!
:-k

:-({|=

Re: Southbeachleather Indy Jacket - quality??

Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 3:56 pm
by Michaelson
raider 57 wrote:OOHH BOY!!! Didn't you guys see????

They will soon be offering a whip, "for customers who wants to order"!
:-k

:-({|=
REALLY!! Oh, be still my beating heart!!!! \:D/

No, wait....I'd be dead then.... :-s :-k

Regards! Michaelson

Re: Southbeachleather Indy Jacket - quality??

Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 4:49 pm
by Chewbacca Jones
Ooch. That's about ll I can intelligently say about this. Ooch. [-(

Re: Southbeachleather Indy Jacket - quality??

Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 5:05 pm
by ajocampo
JC1972 wrote:Stay away from them! I ordered one as my 1st Indy jacket trying to go cheap. Well you know what they say about buying cheap. Besides the quality being cheap, the jacket was way too small as the woman I spoke with ignored my measurements.
worse than the quality, I would say, is that it doesn't fit!
So yeah...thanks for the info!

Re: Southbeachleather Indy Jacket - quality??

Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 5:13 pm
by nicktheguy
Yeah, but you get a FREE whip!!! :D

Re: Southbeachleather Indy Jacket - quality??

Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 5:20 pm
by BaptisteTheFool
JC1972 wrote:Stay away from them! I ordered one as my 1st Indy jacket trying to go cheap. Well you know what they say about buying cheap. Besides the quality being cheap, the jacket was way too small as the woman I spoke with ignored my measurements.

Do you have any pictures though? I've always wanted to see something other than their promotional image (which certainly looks atrocious enough). Kinda a train wreck scenario, I think...

Re: Southbeachleather Indy Jacket - quality??

Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 5:42 pm
by binkmeisterRick
Michaelson wrote: REALLY!! Oh, be still my beating heart!!!! \:D/

No, wait....I'd be dead then.... :-s :-k

Regards! Michaelson
:lol: :lol: :lol: I'm not dead yet!

Re: Southbeachleather Indy Jacket - quality??

Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 6:17 pm
by JC1972
No sorry, I don't. I think I probably burned (deleted) whatever evidence I ever had that I "owned" one. This was over 2 years ago as I was first getting into the hobby. Even if English is not their first language but still; they were just...bad. :-0
BaptisteTheFool wrote:
JC1972 wrote:Stay away from them! I ordered one as my 1st Indy jacket trying to go cheap. Well you know what they say about buying cheap. Besides the quality being cheap, the jacket was way too small as the woman I spoke with ignored my measurements.

Do you have any pictures though? I've always wanted to see something other than their promotional image (which certainly looks atrocious enough). Kinda a train wreck scenario, I think...

Re: Southbeachleather Indy Jacket - quality??

Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 6:18 pm
by scot2525
bargle wrote:I'm new here as many of you know so I apologize for my limited knowledge on this subject. In my quest for an inexpensive jacket option I came across these guys. They sell online via their store (and on eBay). I'm wondering if anyone can offer an opinion on it. I've seen pics of the back and they appear to be cut correctly with no extra seams or panels. Thanks.
http://www.southbeachleather.com/indian ... acket.html
Welcome to COW bargle.

Bargle you cannot beat this jacket offering: http://www.toddscostumes.com/cgi/commer ... egory=X352 if you are looking for a "brand new" jacket for $149.99 + shipping. IMHO the most accurate "brand new" Indy jacket you will ever find for the price.

http://www.uswings.com also has an upcoming jacket offering that you should give serious consideration too. A third option would be an off the rack jacket from Wested leather. The Wested jacket would be the most expensive option if you live in the USA but not so if you live Great Britain.

If you are on a tight budget I would suggest you check out the Cairo Bazzar forum and you may find some excellent "used"jackets for less than $150.00.

I just noticed that you live in Canada so I am not sure how currency conversions and shipping fees may affect you.

I hope this information helps you in your search

Re: Southbeachleather Indy Jacket - quality??

Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 6:20 pm
by RCSignals
binkmeisterRick wrote:
Michaelson wrote: REALLY!! Oh, be still my beating heart!!!! \:D/

No, wait....I'd be dead then.... :-s :-k

Regards! Michaelson
:lol: :lol: :lol: I'm not dead yet!
you are Michaelson's beating heart or your beating heart is still? :-k
:lol:

Re: Southbeachleather Indy Jacket - quality??

Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 6:21 pm
by RCSignals
Bargle, if you do an Internet search i think you'll find more than a few reports of dissatisfaction with southbeach leather

Re: Southbeachleather Indy Jacket - quality??

Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 6:26 pm
by nicktheguy
binkmeisterRick wrote:
Michaelson wrote: REALLY!! Oh, be still my beating heart!!!! \:D/

No, wait....I'd be dead then.... :-s :-k

Regards! Michaelson
:lol: :lol: :lol: I'm not dead yet!
Sounds like some lyrics to "Spamalot"

Re: Southbeachleather Indy Jacket - quality??

Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 6:41 pm
by ajocampo
scot2525 wrote:
bargle wrote:I'm new here as many of you know so I apologize for my limited knowledge on this subject. In my quest for an inexpensive jacket option I came across these guys. They sell online via their store (and on eBay). I'm wondering if anyone can offer an opinion on it. I've seen pics of the back and they appear to be cut correctly with no extra seams or panels. Thanks.
http://www.southbeachleather.com/indian ... acket.html
Welcome to COW bargle.

Bargle you cannot beat this jacket offering: http://www.toddscostumes.com/cgi/commer ... egory=X352 if you are looking for a "brand new" jacket for $149.99 + shipping. IMHO the most accurate "brand new" Indy jacket you will ever find for the price.

http://www.uswings.com also has an upcoming jacket offering that you should give serious consideration too. A third option would be an off the rack jacket from Wested leather. The Wested jacket would be the most expensive option if you live in the USA but not so if you live Great Britain.

If you are on a tight budget I would suggest you check out the Cairo Bazzar forum and you may find some excellent "used"jackets for less than $150.00.

I just noticed that you live in Canada so I am not sure how currency conversions and shipping fees may affect you.

I hope this information helps you in your search

Thanks for the info, too

I'm gonna look into todd's costume leather jacket!

Re: Southbeachleather Indy Jacket - quality??

Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 9:17 am
by Texan Scott
Ever now and then, you can find them on Ebay second hand at a bargain.

Re: Southbeachleather Indy Jacket - quality??

Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 7:28 pm
by John Vaughan
Hey guys It's me, Mr." I just need help with this jacket thing." Yaaa. anyway Bro. stay away from those guys!!! They say it has handwarmers but it don't,They say it has inside pockets and you guessed it, it don't. They say it's JUST like Indy's and, well, are you seeing a pattern here! It fits good but the leather is very thin even for lamb.To tell you the truth, I'm not sure it's even leather. The back panel only goes down to about two inches above the straps, and if you try to return it you have to send it to Pakistan where it was made. It was the first jacket I ever ordered and as a result, well, the result is I'm now a member here. :-k I guess it wasn't a total loss :- these guys are good people. Anyway, I figured I'd throw my $145 in. I did get them down to $100 if I just kept it!

Sorry my fellow club members , but I just can't let anybody else go through what I did!

Peace

John

Re: Southbeachleather Indy Jacket - quality??

Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 8:07 pm
by raider 57
OK bargle,
In all seriousness, I'll suggest to you this jacket option as well:

http://www.gibson-barnes.com/Expedition ... rod_id/64/

Very well made,highly durable and pretty darn accurate.
They are sized by chest measurement, 38,40,42 etc. Plus they offer 'tall' sizes.
You can go Lamb or Goat.
The Goatskin is for truckdragging! The titanium of leathers!
:TOH:

Re: Southbeachleather Indy Jacket - quality??

Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 11:59 pm
by Rook
It's interesting that there are such negative reactions to their Indy jackets, when the Rocketeer and Mad Max jackets get okay reviews from the fans. Well, the MM jacket itself gets good reviews. The shoulder armor on the other hand. :-0

Russ

Re: Southbeachleather Indy Jacket - quality??

Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 12:04 am
by bargle
John Vaughan wrote:
Sorry my fellow club members , but I just can't let anybody else go through what I did!

Peace

John

I appreciate you sharing that and saving me the grief.

Re: Southbeachleather Indy Jacket - quality??

Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 12:09 am
by bargle
raider 57 wrote: The Goatskin is for truckdragging! The titanium of leathers!
:TOH:
Thanks for the advice Raider 57.
I was actually thinking today "I want a jacket that would withstand a good Indy style truck dragging" but alas my budget doesn't agree. However I will definitely keep it in mind for a down the road purchase - no pun intended. ;)

Re: Southbeachleather Indy Jacket - quality??

Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 12:37 am
by JC1972
John Vaughan wrote:and if you try to return it you have to send it to Pakistan where it was made. It was the first jacket I ever ordered and as a result, well, the result is I'm now a member here. :-k I guess it wasn't a total loss :- these guys are good people. Anyway, I figured I'd throw my $145 in. I did get them down to $100 if I just kept it!

Sorry my fellow club members , but I just can't let anybody else go through what I did!

Peace

John
I returned mine to Long Island (I forget where, eastern end I think-not that it matters), NY which is where I got it from.

Re: Southbeachleather Indy Jacket - quality??

Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 6:37 pm
by John Vaughan
JC1972 wrote:
John Vaughan wrote:and if you try to return it you have to send it to Pakistan where it was made. It was the first jacket I ever ordered and as a result, well, the result is I'm now a member here. :-k I guess it wasn't a total loss :- these guys are good people. Anyway, I figured I'd throw my $145 in. I did get them down to $100 if I just kept it!

Sorry my fellow club members , but I just can't let anybody else go through what I did!

Peace

John
I returned mine to Long Island (I forget where, eastern end I think-not that it matters), NY which is where I got it from.
Hey, that's what they told me in an email, I still have it if you want to read it. :P

Re: Southbeachleather Indy Jacket - quality??

Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 6:43 pm
by John Vaughan
bargle wrote:
John Vaughan wrote:
Sorry my fellow club members , but I just can't let anybody else go through what I did!

Peace

John

I appreciate you sharing that and saving me the grief.
Ain't nothing but a thing Bro. I just figured I'd pass along that which was given. You're in good company here.

Re: Southbeachleather Indy Jacket - quality??

Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 7:45 pm
by BwanaJohn
Rook wrote:It's interesting that there are such negative reactions to their Indy jackets, when the Rocketeer and Mad Max jackets get okay reviews from the fans. Well, the MM jacket itself gets good reviews. The shoulder armor on the other hand. :-0

Russ
First I heard of Southbeach, was when looking for the MM Jacket, thought with that name it was based in Florida or California. Then with all the Horror Stories, heard there was a place in Canada that made a Top Quality Copy. Of course as a collector and Movie Fan, I'm waiting for The Indy Jacket from "US Wings", and am working on this gear first. Besides, it was easier to find an MKVII Bag than an Interceptor... :lol:

Re: Southbeachleather Indy Jacket - quality??

Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 4:14 pm
by Rook
Oh yeah, the place in Canada (Abbeyshot Clothiers) does make good jackets... for lots of money. :)
I saw one at Dragon con in 2006 and wanted it... but didn't have $500+ to spend on it sadly. :(

Nor the extra $20K for an Interceptor. ;)

Russ

Re: Southbeachleather Indy Jacket - quality??

Posted: Sun May 16, 2010 12:32 pm
by bargle
According to Southbeach Leather's eBay auction this is a picture of the back of their jacket. This picture is only on eBay and apparently not on their website.
I suspect it is not really what they are selling. http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/3/1/2/7/ ... 2029_o.jpg

Re: Southbeachleather Indy Jacket - quality??

Posted: Sun May 16, 2010 1:09 pm
by John Vaughan
Ya that's it. if ya notice the pic stops just below the straps. If it went down to the bottom of the jacket you would notice that the back panel stops right at the top of the straps and doesn't go all the way to the bottom, also like I said the handwarmer pockets( on mine at least) are not there. there is no inside pockets, and for being new, It sure doesn't smell like leather at all. Maybe I just got a fluke. All I know is I will not order from them again. :x

Peace

John

Re: Southbeachleather Indy Jacket - quality??

Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 2:19 pm
by Soup
Hey Bargle, as you can tell, alot of good info from many knowledgeable individuals. I only own a Todd's, and I have had for a couple of seasons now and has been good for me for the price. :tup: How is your sanity holding up with so many choices? ](*,) :TOH:

I lost mine along time ago, I'm starting to feel right at home here. :lol:


Regards,

Soup

Re: Southbeachleather Indy Jacket - quality??

Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 7:05 pm
by scot2525
Bargle have you found a jacket in your budget yet with the advice provided?

Re: Southbeachleather Indy Jacket - quality??

Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 7:08 pm
by Texan Scott
Drug-by-a-truck! Nothing beats a good afternoon out that a good truck drag! :whip:

Re: Southbeachleather Indy Jacket - quality??

Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 7:11 pm
by Texan Scott
Michaelson wrote:
raider 57 wrote:OOHH BOY!!! Didn't you guys see????

They will soon be offering a whip, "for customers who wants to order"!
:-k

:-({|=
REALLY!! Oh, be still my beating heart!!!! \:D/

No, wait....I'd be dead then.... :-s :-k

Regards! Michaelson

...in the absence of a rope, the whip can be used to hang yourself once you receive the jacket and inspect its contents. :Dietrich:

Re: Southbeachleather Indy Jacket - quality??

Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 7:51 pm
by John Vaughan
:-k #-o :P

Re: Southbeachleather Indy Jacket - quality??

Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 9:53 pm
by scot2525
Since the original poster of this thread has moved on to another jacket vendor should not this thread get locked down?