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Period Accessories- flashlight

Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 9:37 pm
by Rich Johnson
Nothing can ruin a good costume appearance than an item that is modern and out of place. Like when I was on my way back from an event and two girls at a gas staion said I looked like Indy except for the cell phone on my belt. :(

Ok so here is something that caught my eye one day. Im into antique military vehicles, I own two, a Dodge M37 and a willy's M38a1, both like the ones in KS. At the meets there is always tons of old junk for sale. One day I came across a fellow that was selling old flashlights. He had quite a few, and I decided to pick through them to find a good "Indy" flashlight. I wanted a dated one and it had to look just right. Unfortunately, the one best fitting my mental requirements was in pieces. Its a winchester flashlight dated 1925, all brass with a pushbutton cover on the switch so it doesn't accidently turn its self on in the adventure bag, and it has a neat swivel hook that detaches from the bottom.

I have to say, when I saw it, it was like that moment when Indy found the "Holy Grail", the light bulb over my head lit up and I said to myself, "Thats the flashlight of an adventurer!"

I negotiated with the peddler and got it for a mere 15 bucks. Yes it looked like @#$% when I got it but I loved it. He felt he took me Im sure, but he wanted 30.

I began by drilling out the ridiculas pop rivets that were installed by someone in the upper rings, so that I could access the switch. Unfortuneately this previous owner also popriveted the switch back on as well. I will remove those two later if I am able. I dissassembled what was left assembled and began to clean the brass and internal copper parts. Un fortuneatelty the switch parts disentegrated while I was working on it. I put alot of hours into this thing, reworking the switch and adding some internal wiring to make it work. At this point, I have a 4.5v bulb in it because I have not found the correct #14 screw in 3v bulb yet. Also, I am searching for what I feel would be the correct brass crush type rivets that would hold the upper ring in place. I also need to locate a place that does rechromeing of copper. The reflector is pretty badly scuffed up and needs to be re chromed. As for the worn paint, Im leaving the appearance as is so it looks as though its had many adventures with a legend in his own time.


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Re: Period Accories- flashlight

Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 9:55 pm
by binkmeisterRick
RJ, please resize your pics as per the rules: http://indygear.com/cow/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=41780

:TOH:

Re: Period Accories- flashlight

Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 10:48 pm
by Rich Johnson
Ok fixed the size, what a pain in the ### Microsoft Photo manager is. I always just clicked the one stop resize for documents. Trying to get it to zero in on 640x480 is impossible. but got it done and them reloaded to the web and all. They fit better now too.

Re: Period Accories- flashlight

Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 11:02 pm
by binkmeisterRick
Thank you! :TOH:

That's a great looking light, by the way! It's got great patina, to boot.

Keep in mind that the light itself may have been manufactured after 1925. It may be the latest patent date, but it could have actually been made several years after. This was the case with other items, like fountain pens, for instance. Still, I think putting it circa 1925 (as per the patent date) is a safe way to go.

Re: Period Accories- flashlight

Posted: Fri May 07, 2010 12:12 am
by tym
binkmeisterRick wrote:Keep in mind that the light itself may have been manufactured after 1925. It may be the latest patent date, but it could have actually been made several years after. This was the case with other items, like fountain pens, for instance. Still, I think putting it circa 1925 (as per the patent date) is a safe way to go.
I was going to point this out as well. I would only go so far as to say made 1925 or later, as it could conceivably have been made many years after the date the patent was granted...and patents take a long time to be granted, as I'm currently discovering.

Re: Period Accories- flashlight

Posted: Fri May 07, 2010 12:34 am
by Rich Johnson
Yeah guys, I know it could have been made later, but probably not much after the mid 30s. The way the collars screw together would have been easier to make by the time WWII came around.

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Re: Period Accessories- flashlight

Posted: Fri May 07, 2010 1:27 pm
by John Vaughan
Now that is just neat!

Good find! :TOH:

Peace

John

Re: Period Accessories- flashlight

Posted: Fri May 07, 2010 1:41 pm
by Rich Johnson
Ok, so here is what I found on the net after doing some research.

On Flashlight museum .com, (Yes there is such a place, lol) I viewed the Winchester collection. I can see where mine fits in. They have one just like it with the "Question mark" hanger circa 1930 and, its supposedly focusable. Thats why there are two threaded collars at the top. Now I get it.
There are models on display circa 1925, 1927, 1930, 1933, 1935 etc, around my pattent dats, but after 1930 the design changed radically. Based on thier pieces on display, I definetaely put this model circa 1930.
How cool is that huh!

Re: Period Accessories- flashlight

Posted: Fri May 07, 2010 2:06 pm
by binkmeisterRick
That's very cool! Good job on the research! (And yes, I have seen the flashlight museum website before. :anxious: )

Re: Period Accessories- flashlight

Posted: Fri May 07, 2010 3:16 pm
by Noah
Nice looking flashlight! It does look like its been on many adventures. Good find ;)

Re: Period Accessories- flashlight

Posted: Sun May 09, 2010 2:44 am
by Indiana Jeff
What I'd like to see is one of these model with internal parts for a LED bulb. These flashlights look cool, but I wouldn't trade one for a MagLite any time soon.

Regards,

Indiana Jeff

Re: Period Accessories- flashlight

Posted: Sun May 09, 2010 6:34 pm
by Rich Johnson
Yes, I know a mag light or shurefire is not even a comparison to this old thing... but its for the ambiance and romance of an era and keeping the costume period.

I acctaully appreicate the yellow glow the flashlight lites up a room. Im going to try it out in Smugglers cave once I have it finished, and I can get out there.


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Re: Period Accessories- flashlight

Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 10:28 am
by Michaelson
Those old lights bring back good old memories. Cliche' as it is, I remember reading more than ONE comic book under the bedsheets late at night when I was growing up by the yellow glow of one of those old flashlights. :lol: :TOH:

Regards! Michaelson

Re: Period Accessories- flashlight

Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 11:21 am
by singsingjohnny
Well, lighting tech has definately come a long way, but I agree, there really is a romantic/nostalgia quality that goes along with the old incandescant bulbs in these old flashlights.

Oh and I also remember sneaking and reading a few comics books with an old flashlight as well!

:D

Re: Period Accessories- flashlight

Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 1:46 pm
by Michaelson
singsingjohnny wrote:Oh and I only remember sneaking and reading a few comics books with an old flashlight as well!

:D
:M: :tup: