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THONG DENSITY ??
Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 4:36 pm
by Gaucho
Guys
I see more than hundred pics of whips and I can see a diference in whipmaking, in the most times, in the beginning of the thong.
The density of the thong have a great influence in balace and god proportion in the whips?
Ex:
Regards.
Gaucho
Re: THONG DENSITY ??
Posted: Fri May 07, 2010 8:48 pm
by Canuck Digger
I'm not sure if you are asking a question or making a statement, but I think it's a question so I will answer, again, to the best of my ability.
Naturally a dense thong will work better than one which isn't very dense. This is mainly about the efficiency of the transfer of energy. In a thong of no great density, a lot of energy is lost because of the inability of the thong to properly transfer the kinetic energy imparted in the motion at the handle. This can be because of the materials used (paper of light plastics in cheap whips), or it can be because there are small pockets of space between the layers of leather. This can be explained by using the analogy of an electric current being broken because there are places along the wire where the wire is broken or cut, leaving enough space that the current cannot bridge, and so the flow is broken. OK so it isn't exactly like that, that was just off the top of my head, but you get the idea right?
However
Just as important as the density of the thong, is its shape. A very dense but badly shaped thong will not crack very easily either. Again we are concerned with the transfer of energy. Too much or too little in the wrong place, and the thong will loose energy which means it will either require a lot more power to crack, or it may not crack at all in extreme cases.
So basically you have these two points (among others), to take into consideration. But in whipmaking we are very lucky as a well-proportioned whip is usually easy to crack, provided it is also well-made. In this case, form defines funstion.
Hope this helps,
Franco
Re: THONG DENSITY ??
Posted: Sat May 08, 2010 5:54 am
by tomek9210
Do you mean stiffness of transition zone and time needed to break the whip in, Gaucho?
Then, if whip is well-made (seamless plaiting, proper shape of thong, as Franco said and good taper), it doesn't have much influence on balance of whip. By balance I understand if it is more noseheavy or buttheavy. I talk about well-made whips you have showed on pictures.
Re: THONG DENSITY ??
Posted: Sun May 09, 2010 10:17 pm
by Gaucho
Guys
I just love dense thongs, especially before the ring knot, and the handle. David Morgan made excellent whips with this stile of thong.
Regards.
gaucho.
Re: THONG DENSITY ??
Posted: Sun May 09, 2010 11:12 pm
by hollywood1340
I'd say the Indy IV has that beat ;P
Re: THONG DENSITY ??
Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 1:17 am
by pmgilmer
Gaucho wrote:Guys
I just love dense thongs, especially before the ring knot, and the handle. David Morgan made excellent whips with this stile of thong.
Regards.
gaucho.
Keep your eyes open for a new post on a "new" model whip from Bernardo DelCarpio called the "Golden DM". Bernardo said he'll be working on this special project this week. I paid for "rush" shipping so I hope to be receiving it in the next week or two. I think you'll probably want one too.
Re: THONG DENSITY ??
Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 9:36 am
by Marhala
I think Gaucho is talking about "fat" thongs (like modern Morgans) at the transition above the ring knot, Vs. "slimmer" thongs (like the Raiders bullwhip) above the ring knot. Is it, Gaucho? Am I right?
If I'm correct, then, a thong with a thicker base has, theoretically, the ability to impart more energy to the point and make it crack more easily (provided all the other things are equal: the point, length, handle, fall, cracker, BUT a lead load suited for each).
Yeah, it seems to make sense to me...
All the best,
Aldo.