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In Cairo did HF wear shrirts with shorter sleeves tailored to look rolled up? Even when scraping they don't seem to unroll either.
I cant work out how to roll my AB sleeves to look anything like Indys or stay up for too long!

ZOLTAR

I roll the cuff, then double roll. seems to work for me.

Regards,

Soup

For rolled cuffs that stay rolled, roll them with the shirt off.

One arm at a time.

Wade Egan wrote:One arm at a time.

Zoltar wrote:In Cairo did HF wear shrirts with shorter sleeves tailored to look rolled up? Even when scraping they don't seem to unroll either.

I'm quite sure he kept them rolled the same way he managed to survive the submarine trip , that is using a fair amount of ...

















who said pecard?

Step away from the computer!!

You'll start talking about the military sleeve rolling like certain fan groups.... (you know who you are!)...

They were never really rolled. It was all CGI.

Or stunt cuffs.

Cuff links?

"I roll my sleeves up just like the rest of you - one arm at a time. Except, when my sleeves are rolled, I steal gold idols."

Safety pins.

binkmeisterRick wrote:"I roll my sleeves up just like the rest of you - one arm at a time. Except, when my sleeves are rolled, I steal gold idols."

I got a fever! And the only prescription is more C.O.W bell

Kyle

Sorry guys, just don't think it's possible to make rolled sleeves look SA with standard cuffs.

Didn't think it was that daft a question.

For my take on it:

I wear tailored shirts pretty frequently, and also tend to roll up my sleeves frequently. Having them unroll on me has never been a problem. On off-the-rack shirts though, where the fit is baggy or the sleeves are too long, then I suppose I could see where that could be a problem.

I think you'll have to keep in mind the length of the sleeve, the width of the sleeve, and the size of the arm/forearm inside the sleeve, and how they relate to each other. Ford's was tailored, so the fit was perfect.

Sorry, Zoltar, but you have to admit it really is a little funny. I mean, some of us go bonkers over jacket and hat details, right down to the individual stitch. This is just the first time the question of rolling up sleeves has come into play.

Castor Dioscuri wrote: I think you'll have to keep in mind the length of the sleeve, the width of the sleeve, and the size of the arm/forearm inside the sleeve, and how they relate to each other. Ford's was tailored, so the fit was perfect.

I think this is the ultimate key. Just like the jacket and hat, the clothing was tailored specifically for and reacting to Ford's body. Put the actual film used costume on any of us, and it won't look the same, guaranteed. Besides, if a cuff would've come undone during filming, they'd re-roll it and do another take. That simple. I honestly don't think there's much science to it, other than what Castor has said above.

I wouldnt rule out some sort of foreign helper such as pins of some sort, especially in action scenes. I remember seeing a picture here of the whip being tied up so that it didnt unroll while in the holder. I think it was a still from the scene in LC when he's yelling, 'No camels!' at Sallah.

Sorry, Zoltar, but you have to admit it really is a little funny

Im just kidding with the This whole place is funny that's why I can't get enough of it!

It's all good, then. And most insane asylums are "funny." This one is no exception.

Maybe I have fat arms, but I've never had any problems keeping my sleeves rolled up, even when hiking or rock-climbing...

I can second that (well, except the "fat arms" part ). I'm wearing shirts all the time (hardly ever been seen in a T-Shirt) and whether hiking, climbing or digging I, too did not have a problem with "unrolling" sleeves. Maybe it's indeed a question of technique?

Are your arms shaped like this?



If that's the case, how do you get the shirt over your arms in the first place?

I do it carefully. If I go too fast, my shirt becomes yet another battle-damaged ToD...







(actually my arms are rather small........ )

I find the best way of rolling my sleeves up are by firstly rolling up the cuff, and then rolling up the next part of the sleeve and flattening it down, and keep repeating the process until you have the sleeves at a length that you are happy with.

Canyon wrote:I find the best way of rolling my sleeves up are by firstly rolling up the cuff, and then rolling up the next part of the sleeve and flattening it down, and keep repeating the process until you have the sleeves at a length that you are happy with.

Yep. Canyon's way is the way I do it: Fold the cuff over on itself, and then fold that over on itself, and repeat until it's the length you want. It's just a part of my meticulous/slightly OCD self, and that make it work instead of just casually rolling up the sleeve.
Doing it this way means it's virtually impossible for the sleeve to unroll itself, no matter what you do.

Staples?

Joeyeah_right wrote:

Canyon wrote:I find the best way of rolling my sleeves up are by firstly rolling up the cuff, and then rolling up the next part of the sleeve and flattening it down, and keep repeating the process until you have the sleeves at a length that you are h

Canyon wrote:I find the best way of rolling my sleeves up are by firstly rolling up the cuff, and then rolling up the next part of the sleeve and flattening it down, and keep repeating the process until you have the sleeves at a length that you are happy with.

Yep. Canyon's way is the way I do it: appy with.

Yep. Canyon's way is the way I do it: Fold the cuff over on itself, and then fold that over on itself, and repeat until it's the length you want. It's just a part of my meticulous/slightly OCD self, and that make it work instead of just casually rolling up the sleeve.
Doing it this way means it's virtually impossible for the sleeve to unroll itself, no matter what you do.

I roll them this way also, but they dont stay up no matter what I do. They have to be rerolled occasionally.

Indyzane wrote:Staples?

Darn it! That was my answer!

If I need sleeves to stay up I roll them tighter and further. Nothing will keep them rolled up while throwing a football or baseball around, though.

LJ

He probably kept them rolled up because it's a movie. If the sleeve comes unrolled, they cut, roll the sleeve back up, and shoot again.

Kyle

With his hands.

There it is!

Dave

BendingOak wrote:With his hands.

Don't be afraid of going into details : with his right hand for the left sleeve , with his left hand for the right sleeve .

TMFR

ThatManFromRio wrote:

BendingOak wrote:With his hands.

Don't be afraid of going into details : with his right hand for the left sleeve , with his left hand for the right sleeve .

TMFR

Thanks for helping out with the details but I didn't want to overwhelm anyone.

slleeeveddd

Darn,

All the good smart-aleck remarks are already taken........

There are no "good" smart aleck remarks, just like there is no such thing as a short-sleeved dress shirt.

LJ

Not unless you cut the sleeve.

For the SOC look, the sleeves are kept 2/3 up the forearm, and do not go past the elbow - I tend to roll the full cuff, then half that, then roll 'smaller' to keep the roll secure. But 'accurate' is actually about the width of the cuff.

Some good answers coming in, I actually started this thread to find out if anyone had seen any evidence of the cairo shirts having altered sleeves to give a better look when rolled. Some of the details you guys know is truly mindbogling.

This cap shows how flat the rolls are, every picture I've seen of people wearing there gear the rolls are bunchy



ZOLTAR

well theoretically, since it was a movie shirt for those particular scenes, it's possible that the shirt was altered/designed that way - the 12" Hasbro Indy figs that came out a few yrs back had the sleeves partially 'rolled' but when 'unrolled' were only 3/4 length, so maybe the costume dept. did that, too, so it wouldn't look bunched or bulky?

It could also have to do with the length of the sleeve placket. If you have a longer sleeve placket, it takes more rolls to keep the sleeve from unrolling. If you have a shorter placket, once you roll the sleeve past it, it should stay in place easier.

WOOOOO

I don't know because I've seen other pictures of Harrison in the real world with his sleeves rolled up just like he does in the films

Kyle

/lm

The shirt in the film was made-to-measure and the sleeves seems to be quite fitting. This is how the rolling up works. If the sleeves of your shirt don't have a similar fit to the ones Ford wore you won't achieve a similar effect. Also if the material is not the same you won't achieve the same effect.

Not getting the rolled-up sleeves right on standard-sized shirts is pretty common and shouldn't be a concern really. However, I talk like this because I was lucky and my NH shirt does exactly the same effect, getting stuck on top of the forearms (just under the elbow) and most often one of the two comes down a bit but still keeping its roll. The screengrabs that was posted before best represent what happens with my NH shirt.

Here is Harrison with his sleeves rolled up in the real world. They look the same as in Raiders IMO



Kyle

The still is from an interview Harry gave specifically on the art of rolling up sleeves. Here, he shows the final results.

norpled

Zoltar wrote: Some good answers coming in, I actually started this thread to find out if anyone had seen any evidence of the cairo shirts having altered sleeves to give a better look when rolled. Some of the details you guys know is truly mindbogling.

This cap shows how flat the rolls are, every picture I've seen of people wearing there gear the rolls are bunchy



ZOLTAR

You can use the photo you posted as well as other scenes. Roll the full cuff as it appears in the film, just below the elbow, but not above. It's easier to roll them when you are not wearing the shirt.

Interestingly, IJ did not roll the cuffs in the first scenes of CS. I kept thinking, something is different here....the skin color, shades or gray and the sleeves almost created a different IJ, certainly with all due respect, just different look.