Club Obi Wan

Sgt. Hack gave me the okay today to post this today, so here we go. I think a lot of you guys are going to be very happy with this news (I know that my Saturday certainly started looking up! ).

US Wings has a couple of new factories overseas and are going to start producing some of their Indy jackets there. Same jacket specs, same leather, same quality, same everything, but produced at a lower overhead and they're passing on their savings. So, in the next little bit, they are going to start offering a new line of Indy jackets (I believe under the US Wings 86 Line, but don't quote me on that point). These jackets will be offered in goat or their vintage cowhide for $195.95 (up to 3XL but no longs). It's going to be VERY hard to beat that combination of quality and price.

Next item: As more and more information has come to light, and DVD images have gotten more clear, we can see that the Raiders jacket had a lot of grain to it, featuring the famous striations that you've heard so much about. The interesting thing is that Wings used to offer a lambskin that had these striations on it. Here's a pic (the picture is small but can be saved and then zoomed to show the detail of the leather) Also, this is an old Wings jacket so take the 3 piece back panel (and arm panels) with a grain of salt. :

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I asked Sgt. Hack a while back if he could still source this leather and he can. So, he's going to be offering a jacket in this "striated lamb". For the same $195.95, you can get a jacket in a leather that closely resembles what you see on screen. And, considering _'s recent revelations concerning Neil Cooper's involvement with the Raiders jacket, without trying to read too much into it, you have a leather that might contain quite a bit of provenance.


Last, but certainly not least to me: the Wings Temple of Doom jacket is back on the table! Here's the thread for those who may not know what I'm talking about:

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=36733&hilit=temple+of+doom

The Sgt. has said that he will be making this jacket in Wing's antique lamb for the $195.95 price. I've held the prototype and it was an awesome jacket that really brought Wing's Indy jacket pattern in line with the Temple of Doom jacket. So, you will be able to get a jacket with many SA features, made by the original manufacturer for a terrific price!

So there are a LOT of great things that are going to be coming out of the Wing's Indy jacket front in the next few months!

Oh, and I also forgot to add that, in non-Indy jacket news, Wings is also coming out with a new line of varsity jackets as well. The ones that have the wool body and leather sleeves. I'm hoping they have these in black and gold so I can have a Steelers emblem sewn on.

COW Member "Crismans"

Thank you.

Good work Crismans. I know you've put a lot of hard work into this - glad it's paying off.

You've been waiting on the edge of your seat for this NEWS Professor!

AAARRRRGGGGHHHH!! - during tax time, no less! Even so, I DEFINETLY have to pick up one of these up.

COW member "RCSignals"...Was it THAT obvious?

That is great news! Wings does make an awesome jacket. I wish though that they would make their pattern a little bit more SA (pocket flap shape, and the back panel extending out to the edge) but those are personal likes, but they still without a doubt make a terrific jacket and it sounds like it just got better!!!!

whipcracker wrote:That is great news! Wings does make an awesome jacket. I wish though that they would make their pattern a little bit more SA (pocket flap shape, and the back panel extending out to the edge) but those are personal likes, but they still without a doubt make a terrific jacket and it sounds like it just got better!!!!

The back panel is addressed on the Temple jacket that's coming out from Wings so you might want to take a look at it.

Any idea if the baggy sleeves will stay the same? I guess same patterns means they will, right?

Arca Perdida wrote:Any idea if the baggy sleeves will stay the same? I guess same patterns means they will, right?

I'm assuming that all of the new jackets will be made to the same Wings pattern. You'll just be able to get them for what, half off current pricing levels or thereabouts?

If you're talking about the Temple jacket, it was designed to be more slim fitting. It's all discussed in the link I posted above.

FANtastic news, crismans... Many Thanks for your efforts with this!

Great news! I have wanted a antique lamb. No is my chance for a good price.

whipcracker wrote:That is great news! Wings does make an awesome jacket. I wish though that they would make their pattern a little bit more SA (pocket flap shape, and the back panel extending out to the edge) but those are personal likes, but they still without a doubt make a terrific jacket and it sounds like it just got better!!!!

like cris said. read the thread. I made the whole pattern and details for wings to use. sadly they only used parts of my pattern sheet. but its okay. Im just glad they used parts of it so it is more templeish. the collar is tweaked. the pockets. the extending backpanel. the jacket cut. the zipper. the sleeves ( I think) so, it IS changed.

it was a pain making the pattern...

You jacket Gurus amaze me with the attention to details.

Awesome news.

I would love to get a US Wings jacket if they only made it small enough

I have to agree w/ Derf - awesome news. I absolutely love my CE, but a USW TOD in antique lamb...at that price?!? Can I pay now?

Great news, Crismans. Did you get a sense of the timing of these offerings? The striated lamb would be terrific.

You know, I've never ever bought a US Wings before, mainly due to the lack of a custom option, but this may very well be the tipping point for me

Indiana Holt wrote:

whipcracker wrote:That is great news! Wings does make an awesome jacket. I wish though that they would make their pattern a little bit more SA (pocket flap shape, and the back panel extending out to the edge) but those are personal likes, but they still without a doubt make a terrific jacket and it sounds like it just got better!!!!

like cris said. read the thread. I made the whole pattern and details for wings to use. sadly they only used parts of my pattern sheet. but its okay. Im just glad they used parts of it so it is more templeish. the collar is tweaked. the pockets. the extending backpanel. the jacket cut. the zipper. the sleeves ( I think) so, it IS changed.

it was a pain making the pattern...

and I think you and Crisman did a great job.
Maybe since it was never put in production and there may not be the issues in getting changes made there were before, they can fix those final things, and the pleat detail too?

Well, all I can say is that after 14 years of being flamed and beaten over the head each and everytime I posted Wings information, the time has finally come where new information regarding new Wings jackets has been posted, and NOW everyone is excited by the news.

I never thought I'd see the day come.

I'm honestly hoping that when the final decision is made, not only calfskin gets considered, but a soft horsehide is offered. Now THAT would be the ULTIMATE 'to get' Indy jacket to me!!!

The irony isn't lost on me either.

Here's hoping they sell a lot of jackets!

Regards! Michaelson

p.s. By the way, did I mention I think HORSE HIDE would be a good option?

time line on the availability of the Temple jacket? Is he going to make only 100 as was the original deal?

This is great news. I know what I'll be buying next!

Dave

Did the Sarge give any date as to when these USW86 jackets or the ToD jacket would be available? I am really excited about that one!

Dave

HOT @#&$!!!!! I'm in! This is the best news I've read in a while.


Travis

Now to decide what hide!!!! Oh and ...I never doubted you for a second!

Travis

DR Ulloa wrote:Did the Sarge give any date as to when these USW86 jackets or the ToD jacket would be available? I am really excited about that one!

Dave

I was wondering that too? Any chance of getting a jacket in vintage (distressed) lamb without striations?

Texan Scott wrote:

DR Ulloa wrote:Did the Sarge give any date as to when these USW86 jackets or the ToD jacket would be available? I am really excited about that one!

Dave

I was wondering that too? Any chance of getting a jacket in vintage (distressed) lamb without striations?

Wouldn't that be the 'antique lamb' mentioned?

'Nother few questions...Will the non-TOD jacket be available in the antique lamb as well? Or is that just a TOD jacket thing? Also, is the CS style cowhide Wings uses like Tony's dark cowhide or the light cowhide?

Travis

This is all terrible news. Now I have to buy more leather jackets!

"just when I think I'm out, they pull me back in"

Mitch LaRue wrote:FANtastic news, crismans... Many Thanks for your efforts with this!

Thanks for all of the compliments, gentleman!

But, with no false modesty, the thanks really go to Sgt. Hack. He's the one who has introduced the new pricing, of course, okayed the striated lamb, and brought the Temple jacket back up. I thought it was dead in the water until he emailed me the other day and said that he still had the prototype and was thinking of making that jacket. What did I think about it? Of course, I told him that I thought it was a terrific idea and he had okayed it by that afternoon.

As for the questions, I hate not being able to answer them but I honestly don't know anything more at the moment than what I have posted. For the moment, Hack said that the new jackets (or those under the new pricing structure) will be in goat or the vintage cowhide EXCEPT for the striated lamb jacket and the Temple jacket that will be in their antique lamb as most voted they wanted some time ago. I'm not sure if the Temple will be a limited edition or a regular offering. But it will be $195 rather than the $300 it was going to be. So, even though I hated it was shelved, it seems that it will work out for all our benefit in the end.

As for a time line, I believe (I'm away from home for a couple of days and can't check my email to verify this) that Hack is going to take a well-earned vacation at the end of the month and then get to work on the new lines. I don't know enough to speculate on an exact time but I got the impression it wasn't looking that far off.

Thanks tons Crismans . Sorry to bombard you with all these questions, I'm just so pumped about this news! I live on a teacher's salary and don't like to be in credit card debt, so any opportunity to grab quality gear at a reasonable price gets me pretty excited!


Travis

Hollowpond wrote:Thanks tons Crismans . Sorry to bombard you with all these questions, I'm just so pumped about this news! I live on a teacher's salary and don't like to be in credit card debt, so any opportunity to grab quality gear at a reasonable price gets me pretty excited!


Travis

ME TOO!
prototype:

..so to state the obvious...the Indy jackets will be goat or vintage cow, and the Temple jacket will be striated lamb?

Texan Scott wrote:..so to state the obvious...the Indy jackets will be goat or vintage cow, and the Temple jacket will be striated lamb?

Maybe I'm wrong but I got Indy jackets in goat, vintage cow, and striated lamb and the temple jacket will be antique lamb...

Travis

Coronado3 is that jacket a LC?? Looks like a dead on Last Crusade jacket to me or maybe a CS jacket. This an interesting offer for the money. If the jacket looks like what crismans has shown I am not sure. The back panel has a line right down the middle of the jacket, obviously it is a prototype, but still IMO I just don't like jackets that have that on them. This is interesting though what U.S. Wings is offering, looks like a great jacket for the price.

Regards,

IndianaChris

IndianaChris711 wrote:Coronado3 is that jacket a LC?? Looks like a dead on Last Crusade jacket to me or maybe a CS jacket. This an interesting offer for the money. If the jacket looks like what crismans has shown I am not sure. The back panel has a line right down the middle of the jacket, obviously it is a prototype, but still IMO I just don't like jackets that have that on them. This is interesting though what U.S. Wings is offering, looks like a great jacket for the price.

Regards,

IndianaChris

Crisman clearly stated in his first post that the images are of older jackets and the jacket will not have a three-piece back-panel.

Yes, the jacket with the center back seam is a very old jacket and is only to show an example of the striated lamb leather... which looks very fitting if you go for a ROLA.

BaptisteTheFool wrote:Crisman clearly stated in his first post that the images are of older jackets and the jacket will not have a three-piece back-panel.

How did I miss that Thanks for pointing that out, that is what happens when you look at a computer screen for almost 8 hours a day at work. Well I am in on this adventure. When are these going to be available? I got my wallet ready.

IndianaChris

No, this is the U.S. Wings Temple of Doom prototype that was made of vintage cowhide.... The production model will be like this pattern but made in antique lamb.

IndianaChris711 wrote:Coronado3 is that jacket a LC?? Looks like a dead on Last Crusade jacket to me or maybe a CS jacket. This an interesting offer for the money. If the jacket looks like what crismans has shown I am not sure. The back panel has a line right down the middle of the jacket, obviously it is a prototype, but still IMO I just don't like jackets that have that on them. This is interesting though what U.S. Wings is offering, looks like a great jacket for the price.

Regards,

IndianaChris

Okay, I'm back from Heck Town (or Disney World as it's more traditionally known) so let me clarify a bit here. The pics I posted in my first post in this thread are from an old Wings jacket. I've heard it's from right around the time that Wings took over Cooper (or merged? the exact process isn't necessary to know for our purposes here) so we're talking a ways back. So, like I said, take the pattern shown on that old jacket with a grain of salt. That pic is there solely to show what kind of leather you'll be looking at with a Wings striated lamb jacket (which, as Dan said, is pretty darn Raiderish). I'm assuming (with all that implies so take note ) that the striated lamb jacket will be made using Wings' current pattern, but I'll try to remember to ask that when Sgt. Hack starts working on these.

As for the Temple jacket, we're looking at a different pattern from the current Wings offering (much closer to a Temple of Doom look) that Holt and I (Holt doing much of the heavy specs work) worked on. This odyssey is detailed in the thread link I posted in my first post here. The pic that coronado3 has posted is of that Temple of Doom prototype. Please note, however, that Holt photoshopped the pics coronado3 posted to give a better approximation of what the jacket would look like. The prototype was/is in Wings vintage cowhide, which is quite a bit lighter in color. This seemed to be throwing some people at the time. Holt photoshopped the leather color to better approximate what the jacket would look like in the antique lamb. Look at the original thread to see what the antique lamb looks like or go to Wings site to see some jackets done in it. It's a beautiful hide.

So, to summarize , goat and vintage cowhide jackets in the current Wings pattern will be $195.95. There will be a striated lamb jacket (I'm thinking the current pattern) for the same price. And there will be a Temple of Doom jacket (patterned closer to the movie jacket) in antique lamb for $195.95.

Everything else, I'd be totally guessing on and you don't want that, believe me.

Hollowpond wrote:Thanks tons Crismans . Sorry to bombard you with all these questions, I'm just so pumped about this news! I live on a teacher's salary and don't like to be in credit card debt, so any opportunity to grab quality gear at a reasonable price gets me pretty excited!


Travis

Take that plunge Travis! I've gotten into CC debt for Indy jackets before, it's a glorious feeling!

Seriously, I watch my addiction now and totally understand.

crismans wrote:

Hollowpond wrote:Thanks tons Crismans . Sorry to bombard you with all these questions, I'm just so pumped about this news! I live on a teacher's salary and don't like to be in credit card debt, so any opportunity to grab quality gear at a reasonable price gets me pretty excited!


Travis

Take that plunge Travis! I've gotten into CC debt for Indy jackets before, it's a glorious feeling!

Seriously, I watch my addiction now and totally understand.

Yeah, I'm going to definitely take that plunge when this comes out. NOT on a credit card though! Seriously, it probably sounds like I harp on my budget a lot, but I do blow money on other things. So, my coming across as being frugal is actually just my attempt to save money for my other vices. It would be nice to just have one.

Travis

I hear you! Between comic books, Indygear, and swords/guns, it's hard to pick what to get when the money is available!

Excelsior!
Riothamus

riothamus wrote:...... it's hard to pick what to get when the money is available!

Excelsior!
Riothamus

....or car insurance, or groceries, or house mortgage payment, or.....

Regards! Michaelson

Woohoo! Happy to hear about the new options, and happy to hear the ToD is back on the table.

Hi, I'm new to the boards and have been reading a lot about the Wings jackets. On a limited budget this news is getting me excited.

I was wondering though if the new line will have the snaps on the windflap like the CE jacket or not (like the others).

James

jamesdell wrote:Hi, I'm new to the boards and have been reading a lot about the Wings jackets. On a limited budget this news is getting me excited.

I was wondering though if the new line will have the snaps on the windflap like the CE jacket or not (like the others).

James

I'm guessing these won't have the snaps on the windflap. In fact, not all the CE jackets came with the snaps. I have two CE jackets (I got smaller) .... one had snaps and the other didn't.

dirtyepic129 wrote:

jamesdell wrote:Hi, I'm new to the boards and have been reading a lot about the Wings jackets. On a limited budget this news is getting me excited.

I was wondering though if the new line will have the snaps on the windflap like the CE jacket or not (like the others).

James

I'm guessing these won't have the snaps on the windflap. In fact, not all the CE jackets came with the snaps. I have two CE jackets (I got smaller) .... one had snaps and the other didn't.

Thanks for the info . I still can't wait, my first jacket appears to be in the works. I hope we get an e.t.a. sometime soon.

jamesdell wrote:

dirtyepic129 wrote:

jamesdell wrote:Hi, I'm new to the boards and have been reading a lot about the Wings jackets. On a limited budget this news is getting me excited.

I was wondering though if the new line will have the snaps on the windflap like the CE jacket or not (like the others).

James

I'm guessing these won't have the snaps on the windflap. In fact, not all the CE jackets came with the snaps. I have two CE jackets (I got smaller) .... one had snaps and the other didn't.

Thanks for the info . I still can't wait, my first jacket appears to be in the works. I hope we get an e.t.a. sometime soon.

No problem and welcome to the board! US Wings makes great jackets, I'm sure you'll be pleased.