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Re: Early Raiders Jacket Influence/Progeny...

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 12:03 pm
by Satipo
Wow! Even the yoke and arm seams don't line up.

Re: Early Raiders Jacket Influence/Progeny...

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 12:05 pm
by ron521
Here is my Lawton, has the straps with sliders to adjust similar to those in your photo.

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Re: Early Raiders Jacket Influence/Progeny...

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 12:41 pm
by Puppetboy
A wise man once said, "There is nothing new under the sun" (Solomon). Everything "new" is derivative of what came before.

I can't tell you how many old movies I have seen with guys in leather jackets and fedoras. It would be fun to put together a collection of all the movie characters we can find wearing that outfit. I can start off with the dad in "Old Yeller" (it was a dog, not a homeless guy on a park bench).

Re: Early Raiders Jacket Influence/Progeny...

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 1:18 pm
by Mike
Just goes to show that Deb was "Totally Devoted" to the jacket. ;)


…coulda been worse…coulda modeled it after the Pink Ladies.


:Plymouth:

Re: Early Raiders Jacket Influence/Progeny...

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 1:25 pm
by Puppetboy
_,

I can tell this is going to take you a while to deal with. Back to therapy! You don't want to start obsessing on the possibility of "Raiders of the Lost Ark - The Musical"! Indy doing those 60's style dance moves - his leather jacket flapping around...

BTW, I actually sold some Gladiator suits to a group that was trying to stage "Gladiator - The Musical" in New York. No kidding.

And I wouldn't bet against that Second Coming thing.

Re: Early Raiders Jacket Influence/Progeny...

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 1:41 pm
by Mike
_ wrote:You are an evil man...

Rumor has it that "Scary Admin" has this poster in his bedroom
:rolling:

hubba hubba.

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Re: Early Raiders Jacket Influence/Progeny...

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 3:07 pm
by Hatch
So,_, does this put to rest the 'Based on James Dean Jacket' legend ' ??????? and replace it with 'Based on T-Birds' ......not really sure if I feel any better.....could go into the 'Too Much Information' area..... :[ :)

Re: Early Raiders Jacket Influence/Progeny...

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 3:46 pm
by Michaelson
Re-told stories are always great, but it's those dang paper trails that get you in the end! #-o

Once again it proves that sometimes the truth is stranger than fiction! :-k

Regard! Michaelson

Re: Early Raiders Jacket Influence/Progeny...

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 4:00 pm
by Rundquist
_ wrote:Sure... But I have to say that seeing that she actually bought this jacket... From "Grease" - second only to "Dirty Dancing" as the quintessential 'chick-flick' I had to seriously fight my gag reflex. I'm eating crow for having corrected somebody that Mutt's jacket was NOT based on 'Danny". Somebody in the house even replaced my "Raider's March" ringtone with Olivia Neutron-Bomb singing "Ya better wake up!"

This may be the sign of the second coming - I see a pale rider outside my door... :Dietrich:

Congratulations on your present btw. Thanks for the info.

I went to the real "Rydel High" (actually Venice High where the movie was filmed). I never brag about it though (man was that a fruity movie). The setting for that other schlock of a film is actually awesome. The catskill mountains in New York was home to amazing bands in the 50's and 60's. What do they make? An amazingly bad movie is the answer. The period rock soundtrack was ok, but the latin stuff was amazingly bad and incorrect. :tdown:

ps- the rest of it stank too. :Plymouth: :-

Re: Early Raiders Jacket Influence/Progeny...

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 4:40 pm
by Puppetboy
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Re: Early Raiders Jacket Influence/Progeny...

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 4:48 pm
by jacksdad
I have to admit when I was 8 I liked Grease, now it's ok but I'll always love Oliva in that blank pants outfit at the end. :D

Re: Early Raiders Jacket Influence/Progeny...

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 4:53 pm
by Gater
OMG! Todd, I haven't had an unexpected bark-out-loud laugh like that in ages! Dang, dude! That pic is funny stuff! Bravo! :clap: :clap: :rolling:

Re: Early Raiders Jacket Influence/Progeny...

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 5:04 pm
by crismans
Thanks for this new info, _! You can see that jacket morphing into the Indy jacket with the right A2 influences.

I have to give away a guilty secret that Grease is the ONLY musical that I can stomach. I'm sure it has nothing to do with having a huge crush on Olivia back in the day.

Re: Early Raiders Jacket Influence/Progeny...

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 5:11 pm
by Hatch
I see in USA Today TV listings 'Grease' is on VH 1 at 8:00 Eastern tonight........everyone set those TIVOs to see the 'original Indy jacket' :rolling: I expect some good screen caps tomorrow from you more gifted members.......

Re: Early Raiders Jacket Influence/Progeny...

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 5:50 pm
by RCSignals
There is no relationship between the pattern of the James Dean jacket and the Raiders jacket.

the Raiders jacket gets it's short body from an A-2

Re: Early Raiders Jacket Influence/Progeny...

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 7:39 pm
by binkmeisterRick
OMG. Todd, I couldn't have done better myself on that one! :rolling: :rolling: :rolling:

Re: Early Raiders Jacket Influence/Progeny...

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 8:14 pm
by Puppetboy
I just wanted to help you visualize what a Grease/Raiders connection might look like. You're welcome.

Re: Early Raiders Jacket Influence/Progeny...

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 9:32 pm
by gwyddion
Though this is really great info, and I'm glad to know this, I have never ever read a thread that made me laugh as hard as this one did :lol:

_, thanks for the info! Also a big thank you for you and the rest for the laugh: I really needed that :TOH:

Regards, Geert

Re: Early Raiders Jacket Influence/Progeny...

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 10:01 pm
by binkmeisterRick
_ wrote:
binkmeisterRick wrote:OMG. Todd, I couldn't have done better myself on that one! :rolling: :rolling: :rolling:
There must be a Golden Pan award for something like that?
Yes, indeed, _, you're right.

My dear Puppetboy, you are hereby the first recipient of the Golden Pan Award for outdoing me with a hilarious Photoshop image done in appropriately poor taste.

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Besides, I'm convinced Deb was also influenced by the Pan Jacket.

Re: Early Raiders Jacket Influence/Progeny...

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 10:18 pm
by A.J. Cairo
binkmeisterRick wrote:
_ wrote:
binkmeisterRick wrote:OMG. Todd, I couldn't have done better myself on that one! :rolling: :rolling: :rolling:
There must be a Golden Pan award for something like that?
Yes, indeed, _, you're right.

My dear Puppetboy, you are hereby the first recipient of the Golden Pan Award for outdoing me with a hilarious Photoshop image done in appropriately poor taste.

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Besides, I'm convinced Deb was also influenced by the Pan Jacket.
Where's a gong when I need one?

Re: Early Raiders Jacket Influence/Progeny...

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 10:47 pm
by nicktheguy
This by far has been the funniest thread of 2010!
Hilarious all the way around fellas!!! :rolling: :clap:

Re: Early Raiders Jacket Influence/Progeny...

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 11:31 pm
by Indiana Bugs
Puppetboy wrote:Image
That is perhaps the funniest thing I have ever seen on the interwebs.

Re: Early Raiders Jacket Influence/Progeny...

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 11:56 pm
by nicktheguy
So does this mean Indy's original name was going to be "Dandiana"?

Re: Early Raiders Jacket Influence/Progeny...

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 12:06 am
by RaidersBash
Yeah, of course everyone knows about Tom Selleck, but how many knew about Travolta...? There's a lost screen test out there somewhere, I know it! :TOH:

Re: Early Raiders Jacket Influence/Progeny...

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 12:21 am
by Indiana Jeff
Puppetboy wrote:Image
And yet another perfectly good keyboard ruined by spit coffee! I thought buying gear was expensive, replacing keyboards and monitors is what's doing me in.


_, I can't wait to see what other nuggets you are able to share from your 'SS Little Book of Secrets'.


Regards,

Indiana Jeff

Re: Early Raiders Jacket Influence/Progeny...

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 12:51 am
by Indiana Jeff
"And once again, Dr. Jones, you see there is nothing you can possess that I cannot...Greased Lighting, go greased lightning!"

Regards,

Indiana Jeff

Re: Early Raiders Jacket Influence/Progeny...

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 11:30 am
by nicktheguy
:rolling:

Re: Early Raiders Jacket Influence/Progeny...

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 11:39 am
by Hatch
Ahhh, come on _, I can just see you and Cruise 'bonding' over a nice big Apple/Currant smoothie.......maybe discuss exercise routines etc to break the ice....... :Plymouth: :lol:

Re: Early Raiders Jacket Influence/Progeny...

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 12:42 pm
by Puppetboy
My dear Puppetboy, you are hereby the first recipient of the Golden Pan Award for outdoing me with a hilarious Photoshop image done in appropriately poor taste.
Wow, I've never won anything before - not even a costume contest (true!)

Re: Early Raiders Jacket Influence/Progeny...

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 12:50 pm
by RaidersBash
Puppetboy wrote:
My dear Puppetboy, you are hereby the first recipient of the Golden Pan Award for outdoing me with a hilarious Photoshop image done in appropriately poor taste.

Wow, I've never won anything before - not even a costume contest (true!)
Congrats on your award! :H:

Costume contests must be tough. I didn't even place at the PMC Halloween party with my mostly Todd's gear Raiders Costume...

although I did have some drunk girl trying to convince me to help her live out her HF fantasies...but hey, that's Pine Mountain

:TOH:

Re: Early Raiders Jacket Influence/Progeny...

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 12:52 pm
by Puppetboy
Oops! _, you posted just before I did. It reads like I'm ignoring your story.

I'm glad that you put that out there so people can understand your background. You're contribution to getting to the facts on much of the Indiana Jones history is underappreciated, IMO.

Re: Early Raiders Jacket Influence/Progeny...

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 12:58 pm
by Mitch LaRue
_ wrote:Just figured I’d drop that story out there to help some who do not interact with me regularly to understand why I know the things I know, and why some things I know I may not be able to discuss.
Speaking for myself, _ I always gotten a kick out of much of what you'd written long before I began to gather that you had a lot of clout behind your words...
Since then, I've always been really impressed by your sincere - and always entertaining - efforts to make us feel included in (and give us closer look at) some of the behind the scenes "goings-on" in the very real and surprisingly (to some) down to earth world of movie making.
Cheers,
Mitch
:TOH:

(Oooops... just read Puppetboy's Post... I guess I'm echoing this sentiment, then.)

Re: Early Raiders Jacket Influence/Progeny...

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 1:01 pm
by Puppetboy
The Golden Pan Award reminds me of that dream where I'm at work and realize that I'm not wearing pants.

BTW, in case you hadn't noticed, John's wearing a Nowak now.

Re: Early Raiders Jacket Influence/Progeny...

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 1:21 pm
by binkmeisterRick
Yep, the Pan definitely leaves a mark... Somehow I knew that would be the case the first time I posted it. To quote Bugs Bunny, "Ain't I a stinker?" :lol:

_, it is good for folks to see how you got your connections to Steven. It adds to the clout. ;)

Re: Early Raiders Jacket Influence/Progeny...

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 2:41 pm
by Hatch
Very insightful, _ about Cruise etc......I knew from your previous posts on other threads there was no love lost there........nice to see how it all started.......somehow it just confirms what I thought he'd be like, ie his ' performance', jumping on Oprah's couch....he just doesn't seem like he's interested in anything except 'Tom's Career '......... ;)

Re: Early Raiders Jacket Influence/Progeny...

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 4:26 pm
by Raskolnikov
Thanks for the information, _.
What I like the most about the story is what seems to have been Spielberg's reaction. I understand from what I read that the guy didn't waste his time trying to justify Tome Cruise's behaveour: he just talked for a while and then lent a hand. Nice chap.

Re: Early Raiders Jacket Influence/Progeny...

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 11:21 pm
by Gringo
From above, the photo has a Snake Plissken look about it??? I got my girl by giving her a T-Birds cycle jacket I painted myself. She thought it was the cats meow! Now back to Indy...