Club Obi Wan

Just got my custom raiders in novapelle from Wested this afternoon, super fast shipping!
I couldn't be happier, It looks, feels, and fits great.
The only thing (and it is a non-issue) is the zipper pull is on the left hand. Every thing else is perfect. I figured the left hand pull must be a British thing. The storm flap is just like every other coat I have, but all my othercoats have the pull on the right hand. But this is really a non-issue with me and I am VERY happy with both the Jacket and the service.
Will try to post pics tomorrow

Congrats! Yes the left hand pull is a British/European thing, but it is SA

Regards, Geert

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Couldn't resist. Congratulations on the jacket! I'm still getting used to the left-hand pull on my G&B. Look forward to seeing photos of your new jacket, and enjoy!

Best wishes,
Nebraska Schulte

I actually have trouble with a right hand pull now.

crismans wrote:I actually have trouble with a right hand pull now.

You're not the only one. My brain has been re-trained so that now the left pull is the norm.

the zipper pull is on the right in america? in Italy, the zipper pull is always on the left, for male jackets; it's on the right only on female clothes.

yep. correct.

europe use the zipper pull on the left. america has on the right side.

Indiana Holt wrote:europe use the zipper pull on the left. america has on the right side.

Yet, both my Westeds has the zipper pull on the right... I don't know what they were thinking.

Restless Dreamer wrote:the zipper pull is on the right in america? in Italy, the zipper pull is always on the left, for male jackets; it's on the right only on female clothes.

It's on the left most places, except America.

If you order any type of jacket from Canada -- the pull is on the left! It doesn't bother me one way or the other. W>

I'm sure someone here knows the history of why it's on the right in America........lets hear it....bet it's got something to do with military standards or such.........

I think it has something to do with the fact that women's zippers are left zip and mens zippers are right zip, and something about how English men aren't manly enough to have right side zip jackets or something. I don't know if it is true, I just heard that somewhere.

OK OK, I'm TOTALLY joking! Don't get upset my limey friends. I work for BT, so I'm surrounded by you guys anyway, I love the English.

I do know that here in the US, zippers or buttons on women's garments tend to zip or button from the left as English garments do, whereas men's garments usually zip and button from the right. Perhaps the first zipper garments shipped to the UK were femail products, and these were then copied? That's just a guess.

WConly wrote:If you order any type of jacket from Canada -- the pull is on the left! It doesn't bother me one way or the other. W>

I believe the zipper is a Canadian invention, so it could be that we American's just did it backwards. Sometimes we do that!

maboot38 wrote:..... so it could be that we American's just did it backwards. Sometimes we do that!

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Regard! Michaelson

LOL

Maboot, not so fast crediting our Canuck friends......

[edit] History
[edit] Hook and eye model
An early device superficially similar to the zipper, "an Automatic, Continuous Clothing Closure", was patented in the United States by Elias Howe in 1851. Unlike the zipper, Howe's invention had no slider; instead a series of clasps slid freely along both edges to be joined, with each clasp holding the two sides together at whichever pair of points along them it was located. The clasps were joined together by a string, which, when pulled taut, caused the clasps to be evenly spaced along the closure, thus holding the two edges together. Pulling in the other direction caused the clasps to become bunched up at one end, by which means the device was opened. [1]

The true zipper was the product of a series of incremental improvements over more than twenty years, by inventors and engineers associated with a sequence of companies that were the progenitors of Talon, Inc. This process began with a version called the "clasp locker", invented by American born inventor Whitcomb L. Judson of Chicago (previously of Minneapolis and New York City) in Akron, Ohio, and for which a patent (No. 504,038) was first applied on Nov. 7, 1891. It culminated in 1914 with Gideon Sundbäck's invention of the "Hookless Fastener No. 2", the first version of the zipper without any major design flaws and essentially indistinguishable from modern zippers.

Initial versions of the zipper were based on the "hook and eye" principle, rather than on interlocking teeth, and tended to come apart easily. Some versions depended on constant pressure from one side of the joined fabric in order to hold together at all, which limited applications. In the 1891 version, the slider detached entirely from the zipper when not being used to open or close.

Judson, together with business partner Harry Earle, founded the first incarnation of what was to eventually become Talon Inc., in Chicago in 1894, as the Universal Fastener Company. The design deficiencies, combined with difficulties in getting the machinery needed for mass production to work, prevented the early devices from reaching market, which led to financial hardships for the company. This in turn led to a series of reorganizations and name changes, as well as relocations, first to Catasauqua, Pennsylvania; then to Elyria, Ohio; Hoboken, New Jersey; and finally Meadville, Pennsylvania.

If it doesn't have interlocking teeth and a slider, it's not a zipper.

all those inter locking clasp contraptions that came before are not even close enoughs.

Wasn't Gideon Sundbäck Swedish?

Well, I don't know why the rest of the world uses lefties and and Americans use right, But this is my theory. Since more than 3/4 of the whole population of the world is right handed, it only makes scence to pull your zipper with your right hand. The same hand most everybody does everything with.
But it does make one wonder why we Americans do it diferently. The whole world driving on the wrong side of the road thing could be related

Why those sneaky touque wearing hockey pucks!!! They had me fooled!
Still, let's give them the credit. We owe them for stealing hockey.

I know what it is like to lose credit for an invention. People try to say the toothbrush wasn't invented in Maine, but if you think about it, it has to have been. If it was invented anywhere else, it would have been called a teethbrush!!!

Brett wrote:Well, I don't know why the rest of the world uses lefties and and Americans use right, But this is my theory. Since more than 3/4 of the whole population of the world is right handed, it only makes scence to pull your zipper with your right hand. The same hand most everybody does everything with.
But it does make one wonder why we Americans do it diferently. The whole world driving on the wrong side of the road thing could be related

Even with the slider on the left I pull it up with my right hand. Grasp the bottom of the zipper with your left. Inserting one side into the other is a two handed operation anyway.

European style button closure is also lefty, so it may be older than zippers

Regards, Geert

Good point Geert. Hmmm.

gwyddion wrote:European style button closure is also lefty, so it may be older than zippers

Regards, Geert

I don't correlate zipper pull position with button placement.

placement of buttons is opposite for Womens clothing from Mens clothing. With a zipper when there is a storm flap, the side the storm flap is on would determine Womens vs Mens

I have asked all my British friends the same question! "Whats up with the left and the right thing!" They all say the same thing. They THINK it started with jousting(riding there horses on the left, then cars). most people are right handed, so makes sense you would attack from the left. Hence why things were done from the left. My other question was than why Americans do it from the right? The said since the Revolution, the Yanks just wanted to MOD EDIT: dont go around the word filter. this will be noted down by the staff. off the British. So they say!

They drive on the left in Britain dating back to the days of horses, and it stems from being able to defend onself from highwqy men more easily, at least for right handed people.

The US traveled on the left side of the road up to the early 1900's, a long time after the 'Revolution'. So I doubt it has much to do with peeving off the British

Like I said, as my British friends say! not my take or opinion.

p.s. MICHEAELSON!!!!!!! you get it! I'm out. Thanks again Mate. 11 years ago this was fun.

I get it! Take care, old friend!

Regard! Michaelson