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Strain 10' Raiders compared with Del Carpio 9' Raiders
Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 4:06 pm
by DarenHenryW
Allright guys, check out this comparison:
Know the difference yet?
Okay, how about now?
Allright, if you can't figure it out, this will make it more obvious:
And if you still can't get it:
If you can't see the card identifying the Del Carpio, then as a short hand, the Del Carpio has the slightly lighter Turkshead. I didn't keep them on the same side from photo to photo.
The major similarities should be obvious, so I'll only mentioned the main differences.
The Strain has thinner cut strands, the Del Carpio has slightly wider strands. The Del Carpio wrist loop also has wider strands than the Strain.
Other than that, from a visual perspective, they are virtually identical, and both offer excellent SA details. Both men are top whip makers and I tip my hat to both of them for delivering such wonderful products.
At this point, I won't be offering my thoughts on "which I like better" etc. I've owned an 8' Strain for the past year, so I know Joe's work somewhat, but I literally received the 10' Strain a week ago, and the Del Carpio today, so I'm not ready to come to any conclusions as far as these two particular whips go. I don't think the difference in length will account for any great difference in my opinion of them, but I will say, in a general way, how much one foot can make a difference in cracking routines.
If you are dying to know my thoughts, feel free to PM me, and I'll give my more specific opinions there.
Thank you, Joe and Bernardo, again!
More pics to come later!
DHW
"Ain't nothing like package day!"
Re: Strain 10' Raiders compared with Del Carpio 9' Raiders
Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 4:16 pm
by Canuck Digger
I'd figured it out by the second pic. #### I'm good!
Very nice whips, congrats!
Franco
Re: Strain 10' Raiders compared with Del Carpio 9' Raiders
Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 4:50 pm
by whiskyman
I have to say, much as I like Bernardo's work, of those two whips I like the Strain the best. It looks sleek, elegant, Morganesque and very Raiders.
Re: Strain 10' Raiders compared with Del Carpio 9' Raiders
Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 5:45 pm
by Indiana County Jr.
Woohoo! I got it right too!
I have one of each as well, they are both great, but the Strain wins hands down in my opinion. My hitch point is still tight on my Strain and it is over a year old now. Still both great whips!
Crack On!
Allen
Re: Strain 10' Raiders compared with Del Carpio 9' Raiders
Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 7:10 pm
by IndianaBravo
Fanfrickintastic!
You have two awesome winners there!
Enjoy dancing with those beauties!
Regards
Indianabravo
Re: Strain 10' Raiders compared with Del Carpio 9' Raiders
Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 7:56 pm
by knibs7
I'm finally getting good at identifying different makers. I got it from the first pic. GREAT looking whips! Congrats!!
Kyle
Re: Strain 10' Raiders compared with Del Carpio 9' Raiders
Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 4:35 am
by jeanfifi
Beautifull, congratulations!
Honestly, I saw the difference at the first picture
Ca c'est l'oeil d'aigle que je dois à Franco whahaha!
JP
Re: Strain 10' Raiders compared with Del Carpio 9' Raiders
Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 2:17 pm
by Gaucho
CONGRATULATIONS Daren
Amazing whips.
How whip is your favorite to crack?
Regards.
Re: Strain 10' Raiders compared with Del Carpio 9' Raiders
Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 5:11 pm
by DarenHenryW
I love cracking them both! And I ordered them different lengths so that I had good reason to use them both!
A 9' Del Carpio is very cool thing. Joe doesn't advertise a 9' Raiders, but I'm sure if you asked him nicely, he'd do it for you.
DHW
Re: Strain 10' Raiders compared with Del Carpio 9' Raiders
Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 5:58 pm
by raider 57
DH I just recieved a 8' Del Carpio a couple weeks ago. The Strain looks real close. I debated the choice btween those two.
Our Bernardo's were probably on his bench at the same time!
Re: Strain 10' Raiders compared with Del Carpio 9' Raiders
Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 6:49 pm
by DarenHenryW
I'm sure they were, Raider57, No doubt.
Mine seems lighter than yours. Did you ask him to make yours saddle tan? He made mine natural tan.
DHW
Re: Strain 10' Raiders compared with Del Carpio 9' Raiders
Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 8:43 pm
by Indiana County Jr.
They are both beauties, thanks for posting guys! Always love to see brand new whips.
Crack On!
Allen
Re: Strain 10' Raiders compared with Del Carpio 9' Raiders
Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 10:12 am
by raider 57
DarenHenryW wrote:I'm sure they were, Raider57, No doubt.
Mine seems lighter than yours. Did you ask him to make yours saddle tan? He made mine natural tan.
DHW
Interesting DHW,I checked my order e-mail. I actually never specified a color.
Ok, I found the tag. Mine is natural tan, must be the backgroud/lighting.
Re: Strain 10' Raiders compared with Del Carpio 9' Raiders
Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 11:27 am
by WhipDude
Very good choices! I have to say, this really shows that both Bernardo and Strain are really on top of their game! I'd be extremely pleased with both if it were me. Take care of 'em, and they'll take care of you.
Re: Strain 10' Raiders compared with Del Carpio 9' Raiders
Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 5:25 am
by DarenHenryW
raider 57 wrote:DarenHenryW wrote:I'm sure they were, Raider57, No doubt.
Mine seems lighter than yours. Did you ask him to make yours saddle tan? He made mine natural tan.
DHW
Interesting DHW,I checked my order e-mail. I actually never specified a color.
Ok, I found the tag. Mine is natural tan, must be the backgroud/lighting.
Yeah, I think its just the lighting, as you say.
Boy, I love these two whips. I'm so happy that I ordered both of them.
My next couple of purchases are definitely coming from these two fine whipmakers. And let me just add to that what fine gentlemen they are.
Here's what I what next: A matched pair of 5 foot "Indy-esque" whips with 10" handles for two-handed work from Joe, and a 6' "Last Crusade" whip from Bernardo, probably in Saddle Tan, so I have something to work in tighter spaces for my Indy get-up.
Yep, I think that's how its gonna be.
Hear that, Joe and Bernardo? Man, you guys are both just on the top of your game!
DHW
Re: Strain 10' Raiders compared with Del Carpio 9' Raiders
Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 1:59 pm
by Marhala
Congrats on your whips Darren! I'm glad I got them both right, too!!!
The decisive detail was the fact that Joe's whip has a polypro cracker, to me.
Aldo.
Re: Strain 10' Raiders compared with Del Carpio 9' Raiders
Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 2:43 pm
by DarenHenryW
Marhala wrote:Congrats on your whips Darren! I'm glad I got them both right, too!!!
The decisive detail was the fact that Joe's whip has a polypro cracker, to me.
Aldo.
I put that polypro cracker on there myself, not Joe. Joe sent it to me with a black nylon cracker, (SA) but I removed it a day or two before I took that photo. I hate those things. They tangle too much.
I make my own polypro crackers now, thanks to Anthony De Longis who showed me how to make them, and who gave me a life-time supply of blue polypro thread. I guess it comes tied around bales of alfalfa and hay, so he has tons of it laying around. He was just like, "here, take it." He gave me a plastic bag full of it, and it should last me
quite some time.
DHW
Re: Strain 10' Raiders compared with Del Carpio 9' Raiders
Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 5:04 pm
by Marhala
Aha! So I was wrong...
I once read about somebody saying that Joe prefers to put polypro crackers on his whips, so I thought that was the reason the whip had a polypro cracker.
I don't really like polypro crackers myself. I prefer to make the nylon ones shorter, to avoid tangles. That is, a short fluff and a short twisted section. I'll change the cracker in my Ben Scott bullwhip as soon as it wears down.
Have a great week Darren,
Aldo.
Re: Strain 10' Raiders compared with Del Carpio 9' Raiders
Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 5:28 pm
by DarenHenryW
Joe put polypro crackers on the KOTCS whip he made for me last year, and sent along some extras. But the Raiders whip has black nylon crackers to be SA.
Anthony De Longis likes to make his crackers pretty long, and what Terry Jacka does is to make the crackers super long, and actually taper. It's a pretty cool idea, so I've been trying it out: Just make like three or four poppers, each one thinner than the previous and string them all together. It works pretty well. Bottom line is, experimentation is good.
DHW
Re: Strain 10' Raiders compared with Del Carpio 9' Raiders
Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 7:21 pm
by Indiana County Jr.
You've been bit by the "whip-bug" Bro!
Allen
Re: Strain 10' Raiders compared with Del Carpio 9' Raiders
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 3:27 pm
by DarenHenryW
Here's a pic of me holding my Del Carpio!
Looks pretty good, don't it? Just needs to be a little darker, but it ain't bad for being a week old!
DHW
Re: Strain 10' Raiders compared with Del Carpio 9' Raiders
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 8:32 pm
by hollywood1340
Spot on!
Re: Strain 10' Raiders compared with Del Carpio 9' Raiders
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 9:21 pm
by Gaucho
Amazind whips
I'm very ansious awaiting for my DelCarpio Indy whip to.
Regards.
Re: Strain 10' Raiders compared with Del Carpio 9' Raiders
Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 10:50 am
by Hollowpond
Those Del Carpio's are gorgeous!! Not that the strains are not...but there's just something about those DC's. Awesome whips.
Travis
Re: Strain 10' Raiders compared with Del Carpio 9' Raiders
Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 11:13 am
by tomek9210
DelCarpio whips are more similiar to original whips because of no binding. But both are amazing, each detail is perfect.
Darren you are lucky because you will compare those whip with AB whip by Paul Nolan. 3 SA whip under one roof
Re: Strain 10' Raiders compared with Del Carpio 9' Raiders
Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 2:46 pm
by DarenHenryW
tomek9210 wrote:DelCarpio whips are more similiar to original whips because of no binding. But both are amazing, each detail is perfect.
Darren you are lucky because you will compare those whip with AB whip by Paul Nolan. 3 SA whip under one roof
Yes, Tomek,
That's the plan!
I'm pretty jazzed about it. It seems to me that Joe, Paul, and Bernardo make the best working replicas. So, two down, one to go! Can't wait to see what Paul's gonna do!
DHW