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Poet-and I didn't even know it!

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 8:36 am
by mark seven
I've had this vintage HJ hat(new bond street) in my colllection for a long time.A friend of mine calls it my 'pimp' hat! :[ :lol:
I was browsing through old Fedora threads on COW last night and found out that another member here also had one of these hats and he said it is a HJ 'Shag Poet' from the 1970s!-apparently Richard Swales confirmed that these 'Shag' hats were indeed Poets.
I'm really pleased to find out that I have a genuine Poet from the 70s! :D .
The other member shaved the shag off his hat and pounced it and that's what I am going to do with this one..I think there is a nice Grey vintage Poet underneath waiting to get out!
The hat is 5 1/2" open-crowned.The brim was 3" wide(much too wide for me),I trimmed it down to 2 1/2" which is just right for my face.
I've started shaving it with a disposable razor-will post pics of finished results.

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Re: Poet-and I didn't even know it!

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 8:39 am
by Kt Templar
ha HA! I thought it was seriously mouldy from the first pic!

Seems a bit of a shame to shave it!

Re: Poet-and I didn't even know it!

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 8:47 am
by mark seven
I did try wearing it outside once-felt really silly!-I mean,what could you wear it with?
It's just been shoved in the back of my wardrobe,if I shave it at least I can wear it without looking like Huggy Bear! :lol: .

Re: Poet-and I didn't even know it!

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 8:49 am
by Holt
indypimp

Re: Poet-and I didn't even know it!

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 9:08 am
by Fedora
Way back Dakota, a member here, bought one like this, and shaved and pounced it down and created a great looking hat. I found one, and tried the same thing. Lots of work!! Then some guy sent me one, and I just did not have the time to do it, as it is very time consuming. You used to see these quite a bit, from HJ in the old days, here on COW. Fedora

Re: Poet-and I didn't even know it!

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 9:11 am
by binkmeisterRick
How many muppets go into making that felt? ;)

Re: Poet-and I didn't even know it!

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 9:17 am
by maboot38
mark seven wrote:I did try wearing it outside once-felt really silly!-I mean,what could you wear it with?
Are you serious? "What could you wear it with?" ?????

THIS, of course:

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Re: Poet-and I didn't even know it!

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 9:41 am
by ][ndy
First I really thought that hat was full with fuller's earth, but after a closer look, I noticed the fur.

I hope shaving is coming along nicely.


btw. did they just use a whole rabbit for this?! :shock:

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Re: Poet-and I didn't even know it!

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 10:13 am
by mark seven
:rolling: :tup:

Re: Poet-and I didn't even know it!

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 10:19 am
by lantzn
Make me want to get my electric razor out pronto! I too thought the hat was covered in mold at first look.

Re: Poet-and I didn't even know it!

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 10:46 am
by DR Ulloa
I would think that using a razor on a hat wouldn't be good for it. Steve didn't mention anything about that though. I'm just afraid that you will hsave too much off with a razor. Couldn't it be pounced all the way down? More work, yes, but it has to be safer, right?

Dave

Re: Poet-and I didn't even know it!

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 10:51 am
by binkmeisterRick
I don't know, coupled with the boots, all you'd need was an Indy jacket made out of green velvet with purple trousers and a bright silk safari shirt with pleats down the front. And the Staff of Ra headpiece around your neck. :lol:

Re: Poet-and I didn't even know it!

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 12:31 pm
by sithspawn
binkmeisterRick wrote:I don't know, coupled with the boots, all you'd need was an Indy jacket made out of green velvet with purple trousers and a bright silk safari shirt with pleats down the front. And the Staff of Ra headpiece around your neck. :lol:
Better yet he could put the Staff of Ra headpiece on a pole and have a nifty Indypimp walking stick. :-

Re: Poet-and I didn't even know it!

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 1:08 pm
by maboot38
Put THIS on top of the staff to match the boots.

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Re: Poet-and I didn't even know it!

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 4:46 pm
by Mark Brody
binkmeisterRick wrote:I don't know, coupled with the boots, all you'd need was an Indy jacket made out of green velvet with purple trousers and a bright silk safari shirt with pleats down the front. And the Staff of Ra headpiece around your neck. :lol:
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Re: Poet-and I didn't even know it!

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 6:30 pm
by McFly
:-s #-o That Peruvian guy in the back thinks he looks ridiculous! :lol:

Shane

Re: Poet-and I didn't even know it!

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 8:52 pm
by binkmeisterRick
:rolling: It works for me! Now we're ready for Indy X! :lol:

Re: Poet-and I didn't even know it!

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 10:25 pm
by maboot38
Is that the one where Indy and John Shaft team up to take down Snoop Dog's pimpin' ring?

Re: Poet-and I didn't even know it!

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 12:26 am
by Indiana MarkVII
I will never trust another photograph ever again. Great work on the Indypimp. I hope that NEVER happens in truth!

Re: Poet-and I didn't even know it!

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 1:25 am
by DR Ulloa
He could be one of the Joker's goons in the old Burton Batman movie.

Dave

Re: Poet-and I didn't even know it!

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 8:18 am
by Mark Brody
That's just what I was thinking as soon as I put the green and purple together.

Re: Poet-and I didn't even know it!

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 12:13 pm
by MustangLoverMex
That kind of hats are no longer produced (At least the same quality), so If I were you, I would leave it as it is, and get another fur body to make the hat.
At least that's what I would do...
Regards,
-Alfonso

Re: Poet-and I didn't even know it!

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 12:28 pm
by Fedora
Heck, shave it off with a hair trimmer, til you reach a solid surface. Fedora

Re: Poet-and I didn't even know it!

Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 4:24 pm
by Strider
Nuts. I keep looking for these, and every time someone finds one they start shaving it. I think it'd be a great "Commissioner Dolan" hat from The Spirit (comic), but I can never find one that isn't shaved.

Re: Poet-and I didn't even know it!

Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 4:33 pm
by Fedora
They look too similiar to those toilet bowl covers you used to see, for me. Fedora

Re: Poet-and I didn't even know it!

Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 5:31 pm
by Snapbrim76
That hat will look so nice once you've pounced it.

Re: Poet-and I didn't even know it!

Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 8:16 pm
by DR Ulloa
Fedora wrote:They look too similiar to those toilet bowl covers you used to see, for me. Fedora
:rolling: :rolling: :rolling:

My grandmothers used to have one of those in pink!

Dave

Re: Poet-and I didn't even know it!

Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 10:22 pm
by Hollowpond
It would always make the toilet seat fall down. You would have to hold the toilet seat with one foot while going #1 at the same time. I hated them things! Seriously though, when was it ever cool to wear a hat like this?

Travis

Re: Poet-and I didn't even know it!

Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 3:08 pm
by Erri
How did you not ever noticed it was a HJ?? LOL!

Have you considered making a mould of the hat... you know, that method to create a block from a preblocked hat? From what I can see your pimp HJ it looks like a nice shape.

By the ways that hat was called "the pimp hat" also by employees of Herbert Johnson shop. Apparently it was Richard Swales' favourite model :lol: :lol:

Re: Poet-and I didn't even know it!

Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 4:21 pm
by mark seven
Erri wrote:How did you not ever noticed it was a HJ?? LOL!
Erri,I knew it was a HJ-that's why I bought it!-I didn't know it was a Poet( under that all that hair! :lol: )

Re: Poet-and I didn't even know it!

Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 4:26 pm
by Ranger36
Mark Brody wrote:
binkmeisterRick wrote:I don't know, coupled with the boots, all you'd need was an Indy jacket made out of green velvet with purple trousers and a bright silk safari shirt with pleats down the front. And the Staff of Ra headpiece around your neck. :lol:
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:rolling: :rolling: :rolling:

Re: Poet-and I didn't even know it!

Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 5:28 pm
by Erri
mark seven wrote:
Erri wrote:How did you not ever noticed it was a HJ?? LOL!
Erri,I knew it was a HJ-that's why I bought it!-I didn't know it was a Poet( under that all that hair! :lol: )
lol, sorry I see. How do you recognize a "poet" though? I never understood that part... do we know of any other model HJ used to sell aside from the Poet? I only know of another one but there must have been plenty of them in the hey-days. Do you know any others? (just curious)

If they only had written the name of the hat under the sweatband!!

Re: Poet-and I didn't even know it!

Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 9:49 pm
by bigrex
That's a unique period piece, or odd poet from the 70's. Can we see it on your head? Would you entertain putting on a matching 70's "getup" (tinted aviator sunglasses, etc.) for the camera? Just wondering, interesting stuff.

Re: Poet-and I didn't even know it!

Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 4:31 pm
by Michaelson
Don't forget to wear your 'MembersOnly' jacket too! ;)

Regard! Michaelson

Re: Poet-and I didn't even know it!

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 3:22 am
by 3thoubucks
Beautifull hat mark seven. Sorry for this creepy Hitler pic. He looks real beady-eyed here. The really disturbing thing is that his bash is so Indy. I have one of these 70's HJ pimp hats in black. It's called a "METEOR" on the paper tag in back -what does "meteor" have to do with bein' a pimp?? I don't think this poet? has the Raiders block, and the brim flange is too extreme. It has an incredibly plush smooth slippery soft feel to it that I love. It's like having a pet hat, it's so furry. The only example of one of these I was aware of before I bought it was Der Furors. ................. Nien nein nien! Oh, Yes yes yes! Gnat-zees. Image My Meteor has a wider ribbon than mark seven's, about the same as Hitlars. This picture is from 1930.

Re: Poet-and I didn't even know it!

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 12:24 am
by Travelsonic
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I am dying to see how it looks now with a clean shave.

Re: Poet-and I didn't even know it!

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 4:43 am
by mark seven
:lol: :tup:
More pics coming soon guys..I'm about 2/3rds way through now,I've been sanding in the Garden because of the fluff that's coming off(lethal stuff!).This sanding seems never-ending!

Re: Poet-and I didn't even know it!

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 6:25 am
by Snapbrim76
So seeing as you're shaving your pimp hat, does that mean you've had a change of career?

Re: Poet-and I didn't even know it!

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 9:39 am
by DR Ulloa
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Dave

Re: Poet-and I didn't even know it!

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 3:30 pm
by Mitch LaRue
I've got no Photoshop Skills... but I sure would love it if someone here could use an "Indy" Font to make - and post an image of - a logo for "Pimpiana Jones"...
...or...
would we all just get ourselves into some hot water?

:-k
Hmmm....

yeah... y'know what? Never mind...
:P

Re: Poet-and I didn't even know it!

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 12:26 am
by RCSignals
You sure that shaggy hat isn't Beaver?

Re: Poet-and I didn't even know it!

Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 7:50 pm
by Carolina Tom
Well. . . . .what happened????? :-k

Re: Poet-and I didn't even know it!

Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 9:24 pm
by RCSignals
Carolina Tom wrote:Well. . . . .what happened????? :-k
His hat was really a Tribble and he's trapped under a pile of them.

Re: Poet-and I didn't even know it!

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 9:18 pm
by Snapbrim76
I think its a messy job and its probably getting a bit tedious.

Any progress lately Mark Seven? Or is it like a knife fight with Chewbacca? ;)

Re: Poet-and I didn't even know it!

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 10:55 pm
by Dangerman009
From what I've seen in episodes of Starskey and Hutch, MacMillan & Wife, Columbo, The Rockford Files and The Lawrence Welk Show the 1970s were not kind to very many people. Plus if they wait another twenty years to make the next Indiana Jones movie I think the title should be: INDIANA JONES and the ATTACK OF THE '70s.

Re: Poet-and I didn't even know it!

Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:21 am
by mark seven
Snapbrim76 wrote:
Any progress lately Mark Seven? Or is it like a knife fight with Chewbacca? ;)
:lol:
Nearly done..I didn't realise how much work this was going to be!-it's an effort of will now to keep going but I'm determined to finish it! :twisted:

Re: Poet-and I didn't even know it!

Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 11:41 am
by Fedora
Some of those hats are easier to work up than others. I had no problem with the one I did. I used a hair clipper to shear off the long fur down to the felt. I then pulled it over a block and singed it. Pulling out a vibrator sander with 220 grit, I had it down to the good felt in less than 30 minutes. Once I got to the good felt, and it was smooth, I hand sanded it the rest of the way, using 320 grit.

But there is another kind of long haired felt that is made differently. There is not enough smooth felt underneath the long hair. On these types, its a waste of time, because you never can take it down to actual felt. Fedora