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Indy like Vintage jacket UPDATE "IDENTIFIED"
Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 1:27 am
by fedoralover
Re: Indy like Vintage jacket
Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 1:29 am
by Imahomer
Nice look and the condition appears to be fantastic!!! Nice find.
Mike
Re: Indy like Vintage jacket
Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 2:25 am
by RCSignals
Very interesting jacket. My guess is it is late '40s post WW2, or '50s. The hide is probably either Horse or Goat by the look of how it has grained and wrinkled.
Re: Indy like Vintage jacket
Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 2:51 am
by Chewbacca Jones
I have to agree with RC on the hide. That is one sweet jacket. It looks like something one of us might create for a custom job; part civilian A-2, part Indy, part Magnoli Open Road.
Re: Indy like Vintage jacket
Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 12:20 pm
by fedoralover
There's no pebbly appearance to the hide anywhere, just a lot of graining, so I doubt it's goat. So it's a toss up between horse or cow. Either way, I really like it. I'm glad I lost enough weight to be able to wear it. It's probably a size 40 or so.
fedoralover
Re: Indy like Vintage jacket
Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 12:21 pm
by Holt
looks like horse to me. nice jacket
Re: Indy like Vintage jacket
Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 1:25 pm
by RCSignals
fedoralover wrote:There's no pebbly appearance to the hide anywhere, just a lot of graining, so I doubt it's goat. So it's a toss up between horse or cow. Either way, I really like it. I'm glad I lost enough weight to be able to wear it. It's probably a size 40 or so.
fedoralover
Goat doesn't always show the pebbly appearance, I've seen it look exactly like that.
Re: Indy like Vintage jacket
Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 3:42 pm
by Hatch
Can you make out any info from the label inside or is there any additional info inside the pockets etc ? ..........great looking jacket, enjoy
Re: Indy like Vintage jacket
Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 3:46 pm
by Indiana Croft
Tundrarider wrote:
P.S. I got first dibs on it if you ever decide to pass it along!
Dohh, beat me to it. That is one wicked fine, wicked nice, wicked good looking jacket. What an exceptional find. Love it. Wear it in good health.
Croft
Re: Indy like Vintage jacket
Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 5:01 pm
by RCSignals
More than likely it is Horse, I've seen few older jackets from the '50s that were labeled as Horse. It was still a fairly common hide then. Some were sold under teh Sears and JC Penny Brands.
Are there any labels or label tabs inside the pockets?
Re: Indy like Vintage jacket
Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 5:31 pm
by Hatch
Can you take some more detail pics of those cuffs,loving them......looks like they may have couple of buttons .....are they functional ?
Re: Indy like Vintage jacket
Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 6:18 pm
by fedoralover
No other labels anywhere. The zipppers read Conmar, Made in USA. The buttons on the cuffs are for appearance and look to be original. Thanks for the input.
fedoralover
Re: Indy like Vintage jacket
Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 7:01 pm
by Dragonlady Jones
Sorry I didn't say this earlier, but that's a great jacket. Nice work!
I need to start visiting antique stores! What, with brothers finding stuff like this, and that Webley that Antilles found...
Re: Indy like Vintage jacket
Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 9:48 pm
by crismans
Very nice find. That's a sweet, sweet looking jacket. I wonder why the guy decided to let it go after all this time? At least it's found a good home.
Re: Indy like Vintage jacket
Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 10:04 pm
by Imahomer
I used to spend a lot of time in thrift stores and used clothing stores, but everytime I found something that I liked it was like a size 38 or 40 and I'm a 46. After a while I just got so disappointed I ran up the white flag.
Re: Indy like Vintage jacket
Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 10:11 pm
by crismans
I've about tossed in the towel with vintage fedoras. Try finding one for a size 61 head!
Re: Indy like Vintage jacket
Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 11:49 pm
by Chewbacca Jones
crismans wrote:I've about tossed in the towel with vintage fedoras. Try finding one for a size 61 head!
No thanks. 60 is hard enough!
Re: Indy like Vintage jacket
Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 5:00 am
by darthbish
crismans wrote:I've about tossed in the towel with vintage fedoras. Try finding one for a size 61 head!
Brother..............I'm right there with you.....
Re: Indy like Vintage jacket
Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 9:00 am
by DeWayne
Wow! That jacket looks great. My Grandpa gave me one very similar that he got in '49.
Your jacket would fit in great with Mark Seven's thread here;
http://indygear.com/cow/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=20124 which is really worth checking out if you haven't already done so.
Re: Indy like Vintage jacket
Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 10:08 am
by sithspawn
Great looking jacket. Your lucky you found it. I've been going to a local antique clothing for 28 years and I've gotten some great stuff over the years. The problem I usually have is People were just so much smaller years ago and trying to find clothes that fit the modern frame is very difficult. If you can get something in your size GRAB IT.
Re: Indy like Vintage jacket
Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 2:47 pm
by Indiana C
Great looking jacket! It kinda reminds me of the one "Fedora" wore at the begining of Last Crusade.
Re: Indy like Vintage jacket
Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 7:09 pm
by fedoralover
Hey thanks alot for that link, I had not seen those pics. That one looks sooo close to mine. Mine just doesn't have the side cinch buckles. That really helps me to date it a little more closely.
thanks again.
fedoralover
Re: Indy like Vintage jacket
Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 12:46 am
by CM
It's a pretty standard (and lovely) half-belt of which there were many makers and many thousands of versions over 3 decades. I'd date that one from around the 1950's. There were in fact still a few leather stores down here that made them up to the mid 1980's, based on a classic and many would say timeless design. The flap/cargo pockets are less common than the standard slash pockets with zips on them. Also known as a utility jacket. Looks like goat to me but HH was more common. But you can't really pick a leather from a photo as _ will tell you.
Nice find - Cheers.
Re: Indy like Vintage jacket
Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 1:44 am
by carolinamike
Just a quick search on "Conmar" shows they just made the zippers. The jackets I've looked at, so far, with Conmar zippers were all from the 50s
Re: Indy like Vintage jacket
Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 11:05 am
by nicktheguy
Doesn't Aero make a jacket like that called the roadster? It's a sweet jacket and my vote is early 60's.....but then again could be 50's or late 40's...
Re: Indy like Vintage jacket
Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 12:05 am
by fedoralover
Hatch wrote:Can you take some more detail pics of those cuffs,loving them......looks like they may have couple of buttons .....are they functional ?
Here they are. No function other than just style. The close ups show how much grain there is.
fedoralover
Re: Indy like Vintage jacket
Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 10:02 am
by Hatch
Thanks from all of us...
Re: Indy like Vintage jacket
Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 10:15 am
by Holt
this is horse hide.. it has the exact same grain like my Horse LC.
Re: Indy like Vintage jacket
Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 10:19 am
by Hatch
Indiana Holt wrote:this is horse hide.. it has the exact same grain like my Horse LC.
_ has already voted for 'good old cowhide'.......lets have a "Mod Steel Cage Death Match"
Re: Indy like Vintage jacket
Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 10:47 am
by binkmeisterRick
We could if _ were a mod or admin, which he is not.
Besides, having met _ in person and seeing how big he is, I'm afraid I'd have to go with him as the ultimate victor.
Re: Indy like Vintage jacket
Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 8:58 pm
by Holt
Re: Indy like Vintage jacket
Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 8:26 am
by DeWayne
Impossible to tell for sure from pics I agree, but just for the record my old jacket is definitely horsehide (says on the label).
Re: Indy like Vintage jacket UPDATE "INDENTIFIED"
Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 5:57 pm
by fedoralover
I went over to a friends house who has a black light. When we shined it on the label we could read it fairly well. It reads Hercules, genuine horsehide, Sears and Roebuck clothing Co. So I finally know the maker and what kind of leather it is.
fedoralover
Re: Indy like Vintage jacket
Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 6:11 pm
by Holt
Indiana Holt wrote:this is horse hide.. it has the exact same grain like my Horse LC.
Re: Indy like Vintage jacket UPDATE "INDENTIFIED"
Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 3:20 am
by CM
[quote="fedoralover"]I went over to a friends house who has a black light. When we shined it on the label we could read it fairly well. It reads Hercules, genuine horsehide, Sears and Roebuck clothing Co. So I finally know the maker and what kind of leather it is.
fedoralover[quote]
One of the all time classic American jacket brands. Well done.
Re: Indy like Vintage jacket
Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 2:15 pm
by RCSignals
binkmeisterRick wrote:We could if _ were a mod or admin, which he is not.
Besides, having met _ in person and seeing how big he is, I'm afraid I'd have to go with him as the ultimate victor.
So you are calling _ a big bunny?
Re: Indy like Vintage jacket UPDATE "INDENTIFIED"
Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 2:18 pm
by RCSignals
fedoralover wrote:I went over to a friends house who has a black light. When we shined it on the label we could read it fairly well. It reads Hercules, genuine horsehide, Sears and Roebuck clothing Co. So I finally know the maker and what kind of leather it is.
fedoralover
Thank you. I'm glad you were able to see all that.
It's nice to be 'confirmed'
'Hercules' was one of the Sears Brands
RCSignals wrote:More than likely it is Horse, I've seen a few older jackets from the '50s that were labeled as Horse. It was still a fairly common hide then. Some were sold under teh Sears and JC Penny Brands.
Are there any labels or label tabs inside the pockets?
Re: Indy like Vintage jacket UPDATE "IDENTIFIED"
Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 11:28 pm
by whipcracker
So I wonder if it was in the Sears & Roebuck Catalogue. I wonder if we could find a picture of it in there?
Re: Indy like Vintage jacket UPDATE "IDENTIFIED"
Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 11:35 pm
by fedoralover
That's an interesting idea. You would have to find one from the 40s. I'm not sure where you could pick one up, unless there are people who collect them and they log on here.
fedoralover
Re: Indy like Vintage jacket UPDATE "IDENTIFIED"
Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 11:39 pm
by RCSignals
Sears changed their catalogs annually, often seasonally. There'd be a lot of catalogs to go through.
You might find some on line though