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The 'Streets Of Cairo' Hat Display Page
Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 10:08 am
by steerpike
Hallo,
I enjoyed seeing all the SOC hat styling in the forum, so I thought it could be nice to have a dedicated page where everyone's can display his own hat work - specifying the hat model. Here's my attempt with fed4deluxe:
Regards,
Steerpike
Re: The 'Streets Of Cairo' Hat Display Page
Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 11:50 am
by mark seven
Awesome SOC hat Steerpike!
My SOC style Winston 360(Fed IV re-blocked by 3thoubucks)
Re: The 'Streets Of Cairo' Hat Display Page
Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 2:11 pm
by Local Land Surveyor
I am so glad this thread was started.
. Close you eyes.
This was man-made.
LLS
Re: The 'Streets Of Cairo' Hat Display Page
Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 2:23 pm
by Greatdane
Could someone clear this up for me; what is the difference between the Streets of Cairo style and for example the Peru style? I know there's a difference I just haven't looked into it, dunno what details to look for.
Re: The 'Streets Of Cairo' Hat Display Page
Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 2:32 pm
by mississippilong
here comes the "USE THE SEARCH FUNCTION" flood of replies...
truth is, search function won't help alot..
watch the movie.
Re: The 'Streets Of Cairo' Hat Display Page
Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 2:33 pm
by Holt
Nice LLS.
who is the maker?
well. here is a chance for me to post it again.... right Texan scott?
If you dont know what it is.. its a fed4 deluxe. not reblocked.only alot of TLC
Edit
Re: The 'Streets Of Cairo' Hat Display Page
Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 3:02 pm
by fedoraiders
Hello Guys! You have very beautiful hats.
On theses pictures, this is my Federation Standard that i reblock with my precious hat block.
Re: The 'Streets Of Cairo' Hat Display Page
Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 3:08 pm
by Texan Scott
Indiana Holt wrote:well. here is a chance for me to post it again.... right Texan scott?
...just wait 'til you get a load a'
my Fed. IV!
Re: The 'Streets Of Cairo' Hat Display Page
Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 3:13 pm
by fedoraiders
On theses two pictures, this is my Federation Deluxe that i Reblock on the last winter.
Re: The 'Streets Of Cairo' Hat Display Page
Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 3:23 pm
by Texan Scott
Greatdane wrote:Could someone clear this up for me; what is the difference between the Streets of Cairo style and for example the Peru style? I know there's a difference I just haven't looked into it, dunno what details to look for.
Basic difference is that the Peruvian Temple hat was new, as they had just started filming the movie inside Elstree studios. On the other hand, the Streets of Cairo hat, or 'Scene of Cairo' fedora, as our friend likes to say
, was a very well battered and weathered hat during the filming of the Streets of Cairo scenes. Filmed during action sequences, outside in 100f +++ degree heat, in Tozeur & Kairouan, Tunisia, the hat quickly developed quite a bit of character, taking on heat, dust and all sorts of weathering.
Re: The 'Streets Of Cairo' Hat Display Page
Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 3:25 pm
by Holt
yes. EXACTLY the front pinch and the bump in the right side are very important.
I worked hard myself to get these. along with the floppy brim and the heart shaped crown amomg other things...
Re: The 'Streets Of Cairo' Hat Display Page
Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 3:30 pm
by Greatdane
Okay, thanks for clearing that up, I see the differences much better now.
Re: The 'Streets Of Cairo' Hat Display Page
Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 3:33 pm
by Local Land Surveyor
Indiana Holt asked:
Nice LLS. who is the maker?
That is my hat that I make. It is Garrison Hatters Cairo style.
Hey Greatdane, You asked:
Could someone clear this up for me; what is the difference between the Streets of Cairo style and for example the Peru style? I know there's a difference I just haven't looked into it, dunno what details to look for.
The Peru hat is lightly dusted, and, depending on what segment of the of the Peru venture you are looking at, the hat has less "turn" to it and appears to be more "boxy" in shape on the crown. The center bash tends not to be very deep.
The Cairo hat it extremely dirty, dented, turned, and beaten. It sets more on the back of Indy's head with the front of the brim pulled down over the eyes. The brim break on the front is not crisp. It, also, sets lower on his head in general.
Re: The 'Streets Of Cairo' Hat Display Page
Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 5:00 pm
by Texan Scott
Here's the look that you are striving for after I worked over my Fed IV
:
Re: The 'Streets Of Cairo' Hat Display Page
Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 5:17 pm
by Venky
I'm still working on mine before I present it. All you guys have been very educational in understanding the way this hat should look in this scene. I noticed also that the bump on the left side looking at the crown/ribbon border is more prominent on the rear when looking at the hat in a profile more than others. See as this screengrab illustrates.
http://www.theraider.net/showimage.php? ... ts/162.jpg
..more than it shows from looking at it from this side.
http://www.theraider.net/showimage.php? ... ts/187.jpg
I would assume it is just the way the hat is adjust from take to take, being puled down tighter in the back, handled differently each take etc.
Re: The 'Streets Of Cairo' Hat Display Page
Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 10:46 pm
by bigrex
mark seven wrote:Awesome SOC hat Steerpike!
My SOC style Winston 360(Fed IV re-blocked by 3thoubucks)
That's "freaking insanely awesome", sorry folks who are not a fan of the bulging high crown Indy hat but, THAT"S my kind of Indy lid!!!
That's what I would love to see when my Adventurebilt finally comes in the mail (hint, hint), and not to mention I have a longer facial structure as well. It doesn't look like a generic brown, "mid-height crowned" fedora that happens to have no taper. Ok, 'nuff said.
Re: The 'Streets Of Cairo' Hat Display Page
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 2:54 am
by mark seven
Thanks bigrex!
3thoubucks deserves all the credit for the shape of that hat-he's an Artist!
Re: The 'Streets Of Cairo' Hat Display Page
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 3:14 am
by steerpike
fedoraiders and Holt: your hats are absolutely the best.. seems taken from the movie set. I appreciated the showing of details in your pics, I'm using them to work better on mine.
Re: The 'Streets Of Cairo' Hat Display Page
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 6:35 pm
by JC1972
I'd post mine but John Penman has it for an overhaul.
Re: The 'Streets Of Cairo' Hat Display Page
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 7:06 pm
by Weston
Those are excellent Cairo hats gentlemen! I'll add some pics of mine here in the next few days.
Weston
Re: The 'Streets Of Cairo' Hat Display Page
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 7:16 pm
by indyclone
very nice indeed gentlemen , i have a downtowner but i think i will let it wear naturally or at least buy another one then play around with it .
Re: The 'Streets Of Cairo' Hat Display Page
Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 4:37 pm
by Vaderbreath
By request, here are some pics of my Todd's Downtowner...
I haven't done anything to it, but wear it. I've used Michaelson's view of weathering...let it happen naturally. By the way, I love this hat!
Re: The 'Streets Of Cairo' Hat Display Page
Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 6:10 pm
by Snapbrim76
fedoraiders wrote:Hello Guys! You have very beautiful hats.
On theses pictures, this is my Federation Standard that i reblock with my precious hat block.
Fedoraiders, what an amazing bash. Your attention to detail is amazing.
Should we do another poll between you and Indiana Holt
Seriously you 2 are the best!
Re: The 'Streets Of Cairo' Hat Display Page
Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 6:12 pm
by BendingOak
Re: The 'Streets Of Cairo' Hat Display Page
Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 6:29 pm
by Ohio Jones
"This is Mitch's hat before the fullers earth and distressing."
John,
Not only is the hat beautiful, the distressing is awesome.....but what I see most...even though it looks beat up and totally SOC........The bow work is incredible. THAT is attention to detail!
Re: The 'Streets Of Cairo' Hat Display Page
Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 6:42 pm
by thecoolmiester
wow Mitch has a great hat and i like that slanted pinch.
i kinda want a SOC hat but i just cant dirty up such
nice hats.
Re: The 'Streets Of Cairo' Hat Display Page
Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 9:55 pm
by mississippilong
thecoolmiester wrote:
i kinda want a SOC hat but i just cant dirty up such
nice hats.
agreed!!
Re: The 'Streets Of Cairo' Hat Display Page
Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 10:03 pm
by BendingOak
In my opinion you can't get the SOC without distressing the hat. The brim break has to be broken and the hats has to be dirty and sweat stained. A lot of the brim has to be wreaked to get the look of the SOC hat. It's very hard for me to send out the hat like I did for Mitch and I didn't do the full monty on it , just a little distressing.
Re: The 'Streets Of Cairo' Hat Display Page
Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 10:15 pm
by Hollowpond
How do you go about wrecking the brim break?
Re: The 'Streets Of Cairo' Hat Display Page
Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 10:19 pm
by Hollowpond
Hollowpond wrote:How do you go about wrecking the brim break?
not that I would do this...just curious, and yes I did just quote myself
Re: The 'Streets Of Cairo' Hat Display Page
Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 12:26 am
by Weston
A darn good soaking usually does it.
Weston
Re: The 'Streets Of Cairo' Hat Display Page
Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 1:22 am
by DR Ulloa
John, that distressing is awesome! I'm not a fan of articial distressing and would never do it to one of my hats (I like to let them gain their own character ), but that is one great looking SoC hat.
Dave
Re: The 'Streets Of Cairo' Hat Display Page
Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 2:45 am
by BendingOak
I'm with you David. I hated putting this in a box to ship off to Mitch but I couldn't say no to him. It really doesn't matter how close I distress a hat to look SA to SOC and I could do a heck of a lot better. It would never stay that way. The person who wears it and handles it would change the look. not meaning to but every person handles things differently and shape of the head is different. Like snow flacks. Ok, it's official. I'm loosing it.
Re: The 'Streets Of Cairo' Hat Display Page
Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 8:50 am
by Indiana Blooze
BendingOak wrote: Ok, it's official. I'm loosing it.
Aw heck, I knew that a long time ago when said you liked to crawl around in burning buildings
OK, back to the thread.........
Re: The 'Streets Of Cairo' Hat Display Page
Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 10:07 am
by Snapbrim76
John, i know the beaver felt is more durable but its also so beautiful as well. I agree it would pain me to artificially distress my Penman. But you've done a great job and it looks very SA.
Re: The 'Streets Of Cairo' Hat Display Page
Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 10:14 am
by BendingOak
Indiana Blooze wrote:BendingOak wrote: Ok, it's official. I'm loosing it.
Aw heck, I knew that a long time ago when said you liked to crawl around in burning buildings
OK, back to the thread.........
Right back at you brother. Stay safe out there and don't be stranger.
Re: The 'Streets Of Cairo' Hat Display Page
Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 12:30 pm
by Pitfall Harry
Re: The 'Streets Of Cairo' Hat Display Page
Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 1:19 pm
by fedoraiders
Thanks guys for your comments and me too i love this thread, very good idea.
Fedoraiders
Re: The 'Streets Of Cairo' Hat Display Page
Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 6:13 pm
by Snapbrim76
We all know from past polls that the majority of us prefer the SoC hat (not all, I know). So, although I love this thread, can we have some more photos of COW members' hats. To be honest, I'd be happy with more photos from Indiana Holt and Fedoraiders
Re: The 'Streets Of Cairo' Hat Display Page
Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 6:35 pm
by Holt
ask and ye shall recieve
Re: The 'Streets Of Cairo' Hat Display Page
Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 8:19 am
by ark lover
Indiana Holt that is Amazing.Don't get me wron there are other nice SOC style hats on here as well.But to me yours screams it.I'll be honest I have put off buying a hat cause I wanted" THE ONE" hat in my collection and there was too many being thrown out there from makers, now I think it's about time I buy my hat. Pennmans rabbit looks awesome, but your hat loos spot so it would be nice to see what on the market is closest to actual stock used as well as hat block as to the original from Herbert Johnson back in the day, then with your distressing...(Angels sing)
Re: The 'Streets Of Cairo' Hat Display Page
Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 8:51 am
by Canyon
Great photos, gentlemen!
As no ladies have posted here yet, I'll be the first.
How's this for a tall crown?
This is my Adventurebilt before it was bashed up.
Re: The 'Streets Of Cairo' Hat Display Page
Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 10:45 am
by Fedora
Holt, that is the best replication of the SOC hat, I have EVER seen. Period.
But, my curiosity is killing me. HOW does the hat look from the side? The back? That front shot is dead on accurate. The trouble I always ran into, way back, is that I could get a hat to look accurate to a certain scene, say from the front, but it was "off" from the sides, or even the back. And I have seen plenty of hats here, over the years that looked great from the front, but lost it, when a 360 shot was done. Still, from the front, this hat is dead on. Fedora
Re: The 'Streets Of Cairo' Hat Display Page
Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 11:43 am
by Holt
thank you so much grand master!
the picture to the right was taken before I did all the extra dusting..so it gives an idea how it looks when there isnt to much distressing going on....
the picture to the left you cans ee the side bumb the soc hat has.. not the best picture from the side..I know..but it was the best out of the lot.
feel free to send me one of your hats you dont use anymore or cant sell..I will beat the tar out of it and try to make it even better then this...that would be a fun challence
Re: The 'Streets Of Cairo' Hat Display Page
Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 1:04 pm
by binkmeisterRick
What I'm wondering is how much is your head shape coming into play, Holt? This can make a BIG difference, in my opinion. We wear the same hat size, yet I couldn't get my FedIV to look like yours after all the trying and patience in the world. Is there a way to get pics of the hat in the same angle both with you wearing it and NOT wearing it?
Re: The 'Streets Of Cairo' Hat Display Page
Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 1:15 pm
by Holt
Yes I agree...I think alot is in the head shape...
when I get the time I will take a few more pics without my big head in it
Re: The 'Streets Of Cairo' Hat Display Page
Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 1:31 pm
by Fedora
the picture to the left you cans ee the side bumb the soc hat has.. not the best picture from the side..I know..but it was the best out of the lot.
Care to share your brim specs, crown height and hat size? I am sure many here would love to know. Fedora
Re: The 'Streets Of Cairo' Hat Display Page
Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 2:57 pm
by Holt
its a size 58
the sides are 2.5'' maby 1mm less.
the front brim is 3''
the crown heigth is is 5'' at the top on the front pinch.
Re: The 'Streets Of Cairo' Hat Display Page
Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 11:12 am
by Fedora
the sides are 2.5'' maby 1mm less.
the front brim is 3''
the crown heigth is is 5'' at the top on the front pinch.
Wow is all I can say. Your brim looks so identical, and with specs we don't generally see. But it works.
I did notice your hat looked just a little taller, so the 5 inch height fits.
Both you and fedoraraiders did outstanding jobs on creating your hats. My hat goes off to the both of you. I thought your hat nudged his out by just a little bit. But both are great.
It looks like you both spent many hours refining your hats. And this is what Indy Gear is all about! Both of you guys really are impressive. Fedora
Re: The 'Streets Of Cairo' Hat Display Page
Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 11:20 am
by Holt
Thank you Fedora. really appreciate your words.
what I find funny is that many, many people say that the Fed cant do it..
of course.. a AB with the same amount of work and TLC would probably make this hat fade away.. but still I am pretty impressed with the Fed...