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Not SA, but combination of best fit, price and wearability?

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 5:52 am
by babyjoe
Hello,

I'm looking for a Indy jacket, but 100% screen accuracy is not important for me. So to speak 95% is OK.
What I want is something that is wearable and versatile as a piece of clothing, with a slimming fit, and not so expensive.
I'd settle for off the rack sizing, although my arms are 1.5" (3-4cm) shorter than usual (always have a problem with sleeves being too long, almost at the knuckle).
Noticed that most jackets run around 150-200$ of the rack, which is fair, but ca 500$ for custom. I wouldn't want to pay that just to have shorter sleeves.

However, there is also too much offering out there for me to make up my mind. I see Wested is usually larger, not so slim fit. Are there any other options in Europe (I'd want to minimise shipping costs, but perhaps the dollar will continue to depreciate to my benefit?). Shorter sleeves and slim fit are the most important criteria for me. It's hard to find consistent feedback on the other vendors.

Thanks

Re: Not SA, but combination of best fit, price and wearability?

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 6:00 am
by Kt Templar
All things being equal, getting the sleeves shortened on an Indy jacket is one of the easiest things to do, it is not a complicated cuff.

Re: Not SA, but combination of best fit, price and wearability?

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 8:04 am
by Yojimbo Jones
I agree with KT re the cuffs.

I'd just go a Todds standard - they are a slimmer cut as far as i know (Todd's owners?) - and are cheap enough to make your EU import duties bearable.

Re: Not SA, but combination of best fit, price and wearability?

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 8:46 am
by crismans
Todd's standard was my first thought when I read about your requirements.

Re: Not SA, but combination of best fit, price and wearability?

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 9:10 am
by Kt Templar
If you get hit by import duty on a Todd you may as well go with a EU jacket. Mine cost me £60 in tax.

BUT if you are a size 38 or 40 I have a Todd I will sell you for €100.

Re: Not SA, but combination of best fit, price and wearability?

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 11:24 am
by babyjoe
I think I'm a 38! Who do I ask to shorten sleeves? I'm not sure about finding people here in my neighborhood.

Re: Not SA, but combination of best fit, price and wearability?

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 11:26 am
by Kt Templar
Let's take this to PM. :).

I'll send you some pics.

Re: Not SA, but combination of best fit, price and wearability?

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 11:29 am
by Holt
Me friend. Het is onzetendt makkelijk. Doe zo hier.

you can just shorten the sleeves yourself. just unfold the sleeve cuff and fold it again on your prefered length.

Re: Not SA, but combination of best fit, price and wearability?

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 11:37 am
by Puppetboy
I ship to Canada all the time and have not had complaints about import duties.

Todd

Re: Not SA, but combination of best fit, price and wearability?

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 11:55 am
by babyjoe
Thanks for your replies guys!

I just took the measuring tape, I'm 36 chest and 31 waist, therefore the need for a slimfit (tiny waist). I guess the 38 will be too big, going from the dimensions on Todd's site (38-40c & 36-38w). I also noticed that Wested's smallest size is 38. That narrows the supply down to Todds.

Ik ben afraid dat I not understand how to shorten sleeves? You mean fold them over like on a pullover? I recon that would look a bit immature :-)

Re: Not SA, but combination of best fit, price and wearability?

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 11:57 am
by Puppetboy
No, the cuffs are made by folding the leather to the inside of the sleeve. You just have to fold a little more in.

Todd

Re: Not SA, but combination of best fit, price and wearability?

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 12:03 pm
by theinterchange
Todd's. You'll be happy with it, as it's slim and [in my book] very affordable. It's got that classic Raider's profile.

Randy

Re: Not SA, but combination of best fit, price and wearability?

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 12:07 pm
by Kt Templar
Have a look at the 'junior' sized ones. They go up to a 36.

http://www.wested.com/junior-raiders-go ... 6-89-p.asp

Re: Not SA, but combination of best fit, price and wearability?

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 12:19 pm
by babyjoe
I think I understand.
KT asked me my height. I'm 5'10 (178cm)cm (long torso). I guess the 22" length of the Todd is going to be too short. My regular polos are around 63cm (24.5") (with collar) Perhaps I should do some weight training to solve my odd sizing. :)
It's been suggested I try the junior version that Wested sells. Looking at the measurements, it might work! I'll probably be in the UK in August and I'll try to hop in at Wested and try the different sizes, that's the best option ATM.

Re: Not SA, but combination of best fit, price and wearability?

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 12:23 pm
by TheExit148
babyjoe wrote:I just took the measuring tape, I'm 36 chest and 31 waist, therefore the need for a slimfit (tiny waist). I guess the 38 will be too big, going from the dimensions on Todd's site (38-40c & 36-38w). I also noticed that Wested's smallest size is 38. That narrows the supply down to Todds.
I believe that the waist measurement is completely around the waist, not your pant size. I wear a size 30-31 pant size, but my waist measurement is 35.5" around. The Todd's may be the better bet for you especially price point wise. Also I have read that a lot of people find them slimmer then usual, so they must upsize, but in your case Todd's sizing for the jacket you are looking at may be perfect for you.

Re: Not SA, but combination of best fit, price and wearability?

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 12:24 pm
by Kt Templar
Somehow I think you're going to have to go with a custom.

You are pretty average height but quuite slim, of course it wouldn't hurt to go in and look. I doubt that the youth jacket will fit, considering your height, I think they are designed for around 5ft tall.

Re: Not SA, but combination of best fit, price and wearability?

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 12:38 pm
by babyjoe
Going by the numbers on the Wested site: junior jacket in size 36: 25" backlength, 22" armlength. It's 3" longer than the Todds of the same size, and the arms are a bit shorter (just like mine). Let's see what happens. It would be funny if I can get a childrens model for 75£.

(BTW, waist, that is the narrowest part of your torso, right? Just above the navel. That's where I measured)

Re: Not SA, but combination of best fit, price and wearability?

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 12:47 pm
by maboot38
The way this is going, it is only a matter of time before a Nowak follower pokes his head in and tells him he should get a Nowak!

:lol:

It does indeed sound like you will need a custom based on your measurements. Both Todd and Wested should be able to suit your needs.

Re: Not SA, but combination of best fit, price and wearability?

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 1:46 pm
by Dunross76
I've owned many jackets and will say this: yes, I think you should get a Nowak jacket if you want a perfect fit, quality and the Indy look! :TOH:

Re: Not SA, but combination of best fit, price and wearability?

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 1:49 pm
by maboot38
Dunross76 wrote:I've owned many jackets and will say this: yes, I think you should get a Nowak jacket if you want a perfect fit, quality and the Indy look! :TOH:
Right on queue!!!!!

I think this guy is looking for something a little more reasonably priced, though, based on what I have deduced from his original post.

Re: Not SA, but combination of best fit, price and wearability?

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 1:51 pm
by crismans
maboot38 wrote:The way this is going, it is only a matter of time before a Nowak follower pokes his head in and tells him he should get a Nowak!
Now, now. [-X I pull a flaming heart out of a native every night to sacrifice to Tony but I told him that Todd's was probably his best bet for the fit and price he specified. ;) :lol:

Re: Not SA, but combination of best fit, price and wearability?

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 1:58 pm
by maboot38
:rolling:

Re: Not SA, but combination of best fit, price and wearability?

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 2:02 pm
by maboot38
Hey Dunross, I noticed you are from the People's Republik. How can you justify such a luxury item anyway? Wouldn't your comrades get upset? :D JK

As for the jacket, best of luck finding a fit. I hear short arms are quite a struggle, but you read on here that for the jacket it should be an easy fix.

Re: Not SA, but combination of best fit, price and wearability?

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 3:25 pm
by Vaderbreath
Also for shortening sleeves, if you choose to wet the jacket and cinch up the sleeves to get the wrinkled sleeve look, the sleeves will get shorter. Just a thought.

Re: Not SA, but combination of best fit, price and wearability?

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 4:24 pm
by RCSignals
babyjoe wrote:I think I understand.
KT asked me my height. I'm 5'10 (178cm)cm (long torso). I guess the 22" length of the Todd is going to be too short. My regular polos are around 63cm (24.5") (with collar) Perhaps I should do some weight training to solve my odd sizing. :)
It's been suggested I try the junior version that Wested sells. Looking at the measurements, it might work! I'll probably be in the UK in August and I'll try to hop in at Wested and try the different sizes, that's the best option ATM.
I wouldn't necessarily go by the length of a Polo to judge what a Raiders jacket will be like. The back length of a Raiders jacket is usually given from the bottom of the collar stand for one thing. But you don't want to order from the US and have it wrong.

You don't want to spend much money but I think you may need to get a custom sized jacket.

Re: Not SA, but combination of best fit, price and wearability?

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 5:32 pm
by CM
Vaderbreath wrote:Also for shortening sleeves, if you choose to wet the jacket and cinch up the sleeves to get the wrinkled sleeve look, the sleeves will get shorter. Just a thought.

Some say that - but having owned dozens of leathers and having washed many of them in the washing machine, I have never had a sleeve change in length. :)

Re: Not SA, but combination of best fit, price and wearability?

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 5:46 pm
by Vaderbreath
Well, to get the sleeves to shorten you have to put it on wet, then scrunch up the sleeves and let it be that way for awhile. I did that to my first Todd's and it looked great-really worn in-but the sleeves were probably an inch shorter. :shock:

Re: Not SA, but combination of best fit, price and wearability?

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 7:10 pm
by babyjoe
RCSignals wrote: I wouldn't necessarily go by the length of a Polo to judge what a Raiders jacket will be like. The back length of a Raiders jacket is usually given from the bottom of the collar stand for one thing. But you don't want to order from the US and have it wrong.

You don't want to spend much money but I think you may need to get a custom sized jacket.
I believe Todd mentions on his site that it's from the top of the collar.
Anyhow, I heartily thank all of you for your recommendations and advice. This is not an item I need next week so to speak, so I'll see how it turns out with my visit to the UK.

Re: Not SA, but combination of best fit, price and wearability?

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 7:26 pm
by Dunross76
Dunross76 wrote:I've owned many jackets and will say this: yes, I think you should get a Nowak jacket if you want a perfect fit, quality and the Indy look! :TOH:

Wrong :-) Home state is CA!

Re: Not SA, but combination of best fit, price and wearability?

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 10:11 pm
by Chewbacca Jones
Based on what you want, it would be best for you to get a Todd's standard and have a local tailor alter sleeves.

Re: Not SA, but combination of best fit, price and wearability?

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 10:34 pm
by RCSignals
babyjoe wrote:
RCSignals wrote: I wouldn't necessarily go by the length of a Polo to judge what a Raiders jacket will be like. The back length of a Raiders jacket is usually given from the bottom of the collar stand for one thing. But you don't want to order from the US and have it wrong.

You don't want to spend much money but I think you may need to get a custom sized jacket.
I believe Todd mentions on his site that it's from the top of the collar.
Anyhow, I heartily thank all of you for your recommendations and advice. This is not an item I need next week so to speak, so I'll see how it turns out with my visit to the UK.
It doesn't say that anywhere here that I can see

https://www.toddscostumes.com/indy/jack ... size_chart