How can I make my Fedora look like Scene of cairo?

alex1152 · Post by **alex1152** » Mon Jun 29, 2009 11:07 pm

Hi, I bought a Peter Bros hat just to make it look like scene of cairo but I can't make it right, and that's because I don't know how, I bought fuller's earth but I only made it look dirty, and that's not only what SOC it's all about.

So please if any of you guys can give a hand on how to make it look Soc please tell me.

I have problems with the brim also....

Texan Scott · Post by **Texan Scott** » Mon Jun 29, 2009 11:55 pm

Can you post some pics of it? That would be a good place to start.

Restless Dreamer · Post by **Restless Dreamer** » Tue Jun 30, 2009 6:51 am

alex1152 wrote:Hi, I bought a Peter Bros hat just to make it look like scene of cairo but I can't make it right, and that's because I don't know how, I bought fuller's earth but I only made it look dirty, and that's not only what SOC it's all about.

So please if any of you guys can give a hand on how to make it look Soc please tell me.

I have problems with the brim also....

the problem with SOC, as long as I know, is that to obtain "the" look you really should distress your hat. The famous bulge effect is obtained by sitting on the fedora, for example.

two of the typical traits of this particular style are the back brim snapped down, and the front brim sporting a little curl on the right eye and a sort of bump.

ask Fedoraiders for more informations. He is specialized in this kind of style

DR Ulloa · Post by **DR Ulloa** » Tue Jun 30, 2009 8:53 am

There are a lot of things going on with the SoC hat. For starters, the hat looks like it is wilting, probably due to the extreme heat of shooting in Tunisia. There is a bulging in the hat that Restless Dreamer spoke about. This isn't easily achieved but a good start is sitting on the hat. I've also read that the sweatband may have been doubled in half, making for a tighter fit. The brim isn't snapped down, it has just lost it's curl. The hat looks like it is about ready to die is what it is. There really is no way to get this looks out of a new hat without beating the snot out of it.

Dave

Kredepops · Post by **Kredepops** » Tue Jun 30, 2009 10:11 am

Take care though if it's one of Peters bros. stiff helt hats. Crushing or sitting on a very stiff hat, can crease the felt or even worse make it crack.

I've sat on my PB but that one is many years old and has gotten considerably softer.

DR Ulloa · Post by **DR Ulloa** » Tue Jun 30, 2009 10:25 am

That is very true. Good point. If your PB is one of the stiff hats, sitting on it could crack the felt. You cannot get the SoC looks with stiff felt. It has to be as soft and floppy as possible.

Dave

Hollowpond · Post by **Hollowpond** » Tue Jun 30, 2009 1:27 pm

DR Ulloa wrote:There really is no way to get this looks out of a new hat without beating the snot out of it.

Dave

They put snot in hats?!?!

Travis

binkmeisterRick · Post by **binkmeisterRick** » Tue Jun 30, 2009 1:30 pm

What do you think holds the felt together?

Hollowpond · Post by **Hollowpond** » Tue Jun 30, 2009 1:36 pm

Whoa! I've got two kids and seven nephews and neices between the ages of 5 days and 8 years old...I should become a felter.

binkmeisterRick · Post by **binkmeisterRick** » Tue Jun 30, 2009 1:38 pm

I'll sent boxes of cat hair your way (shed from my very own cats) and your kids can add the rest. We'll be rich!

Hollowpond · Post by **Hollowpond** » Tue Jun 30, 2009 1:41 pm

I've already completed one while you were typing...not quite sure the snot to fur ratio is quite right.

What do you think?

Ranger36 · Post by **Ranger36** » Tue Jun 30, 2009 1:45 pm

binkmeisterRick · Post by **binkmeisterRick** » Tue Jun 30, 2009 1:51 pm

BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!!!

Okay, that made my day. And with that, I'm going to tell myself to get back on topic!

Alex, the SoC hat went through the ringer. While your PB may or may not be stiff, most felt can be softened by massaging it in your hands for a while. Some of the shaping of it comes with a bit of experimentation, too, but the fellas here have provided some good feedback so far.

maboot38 · Post by **maboot38** » Tue Jun 30, 2009 1:52 pm

You might also want to look at the main indygear page for some GREAT photos of the SOC hat for ideas.

alex1152 · Post by **alex1152** » Tue Jun 30, 2009 2:52 pm

The hat is soft rabbit but its not that soft on the crown,ill post some pica later so you can help me, yesterday i soaked my abd ley ir dry in the sun but nothing happened.

Fedora · Post by **Fedora** » Tue Jun 30, 2009 3:02 pm

First you need the right felt. Without it, it is hard to pull off. You need a no stiffener rabbit hat, zero.

Then you need to get rid of the crisp brim break, which is easy to do with the lower quality rabbit hats. The SOC hat has a very relaxed brim break. It droops.

Then there is the crown. It needs to be beaten up, and alot. Fedora

Flash Gordon · Post by **Flash Gordon** » Tue Jun 30, 2009 3:40 pm

Hollowpond wrote:I've already completed one while you were typing...not quite sure the snot to fur ratio is quite right. What do you think?

Hey! It's the Green Hornet's hat!

VP · Post by VP » Tue Jun 30, 2009 4:31 pm

Reminds me of the green Akubras:

And who can forget the blue jacket:

Bullitt · Post by **Bullitt** » Tue Jun 30, 2009 7:12 pm

Hey Alex, you could always try the BullittBand(c)

technique.

I took some pics for you with the elastic band. The idea is that you only wet the area where you want the effect of the band to show, if that makes any sense. I did not wet the front for instance. After I put the band on, I would really crease the non-bow side and back with my hands from the inside. This comes down to preference, of course. Then let dry overnight.
NOTE: The elastic band will leave a square impression in the felt. That's why I tucked it just under the ribbon. I didn't do that in the photos, for obvious reasons. However, the impression can also be cleared with a hat brush. Again, preference. Hope this helps

Oh yeah, I don't think anyone mentioned this

, but beat it up! It works wonders!

Ranger36 · Post by **Ranger36** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 1:50 pm

VP wrote:Reminds me of the green Akubras:

And who can forget the blue jacket:

You did great job with the Photoshopping. Looks very real!

DR Ulloa · Post by **DR Ulloa** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 1:55 pm

What do you mean by looks real? That is real! You've never seen the True Blue Label jacket by US Wings?

Dave

Ranger36 · Post by **Ranger36** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 2:00 pm

alex1152 · Post by **alex1152** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 11:37 pm

Richard I already did the rubberband thing and it worked awesome

,now i need to beat the hat a little more also I think that I'm going to change the ribbon of the hat, the one that PB use looks purple I really don't like it

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