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Roger Rabbit: very indy-like fedora

Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 1:30 am
by Travelsonic
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iL1PaWQ- ... re=related

Look at the man in front 1:06 in the video. The fedora looks very indy-like in my opinion

I'd get a screen capture if my print screen key worked.

Is it a HJ? Probably not, but a very indy like fedora in another movie was interesting.

Re: Roger Rabbit: very indy-like fedora

Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 3:02 am
by enigmata_wood
I worked in the animated special effects department on Who framed Roger Rabbit [and met Bob Hoskinson on one occasion, but that's beside the point]. Our department went through the film frame by frame many times over and I remember thinking the clothes and hats were very elegant. I have a feeling though that they were supplied by an American firm.

Re: Roger Rabbit: very indy-like fedora

Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 7:29 am
by Erri
I once posted something similar but it was removed because not indy related :lol:

Well anyway I can agree with you, the bash on that hat is very Indy-like (Last Crusade if anything). Although I'm pretty certain the film was shot in the States so the costumes must be American, no?

Re: Roger Rabbit: very indy-like fedora

Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 10:04 am
by DR Ulloa
The fact is that Indy was not the first man to wear a tall, wide brimmed fedora. This style was very popular in the 20's, 30's, and 40's. It does have an Indy like quality to it and the crease is pretty Indy, but it doesn't make it an HJ.

Dave

Re: Roger Rabbit: very indy-like fedora

Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 11:54 am
by Treadwell
Erri wrote:I once posted something similar but it was removed because not indy related :lol:

Well anyway I can agree with you, the bash on that hat is very Indy-like (Last Crusade if anything). Although I'm pretty certain the film was shot in the States so the costumes must be American, no?
Most of the interiors were shot at Elstree. Quite a few shoots around LA as well, though (mostly exteriors, I'd reckon).

Costuming credits at IMDB:
Ron Beck .... wardrobe supervisor: UK
Linda Henrikson .... costume supervisor: USA
Janet Tebrooke .... wardrobe mistress: UK
Chuck Velasco .... costumer: men, USA
Lee Sollenberger .... costumes (uncredited)

Re: Roger Rabbit: very indy-like fedora

Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 12:12 pm
by Michaelson
Erri wrote:I once posted something similar but it was removed because not indy related :lol:
Exactly... I remember that, as it WAS because you made no connection what so ever to Indy. :TOH:

Regards! Michaelson

Re: Roger Rabbit: very indy-like fedora

Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 12:23 pm
by Travelsonic
screenshots:

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If this was indeed the work of an American company, I gotta find out who. That looks pretty good. Bash looks like a LC/Raiders hybrid with Temple airplane taper thrown in, really has character.

Re: Roger Rabbit: very indy-like fedora

Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 12:34 pm
by Erri
Michaelson wrote:
Erri wrote:I once posted something similar but it was removed because not indy related :lol:
Exactly... I remember that, as it WAS because you made no connection what so ever to Indy. :TOH:

Regards! Michaelson
I did suggest that could have been a HJ but COW was different back then. You (moderators/administrators) are much more permissive these days.
No offense taken by the way

Re: Roger Rabbit: very indy-like fedora

Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 12:36 pm
by Michaelson
You gotta point there. In the past we would have probably given you a week's vacation for that. :twisted: :lol: ;)

Regards! Michaelson

Re: Roger Rabbit: very indy-like fedora

Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 1:25 pm
by MustangLoverMex
Michaelson wrote:You gotta point there. In the past we would have probably given you a week's vacation for that. :twisted: :lol: ;)

Regards! Michaelson
:rolling: That's why I'm glad to be a "new" member hehe... Btw the other day I realize that I've been a year (and a couple of days) in here... :whip:

You guys are the best \:D/

Regards,
-Alfonso

Re: Roger Rabbit: very indy-like fedora

Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 2:07 pm
by DR Ulloa
Not such a new member here then are ya, Alfonso? ;)

Dave

Re: Roger Rabbit: very indy-like fedora

Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 2:19 pm
by MustangLoverMex
DR Ulloa wrote:Not such a new member here then are ya, Alfonso? ;)

Dave
:rolling: That's why I said "new" with the little quotation marks haha... :- :P

Regards,
-Alfonso

Re: Roger Rabbit: very indy-like fedora

Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 2:45 pm
by DR Ulloa
Quando uno no duerme ni toma cafe, eso es lo que pasa. Necesito cafeina. Si no me tomo una Coca Cola ahor mismo me voy a caer de sueno. :lol:

Dave

Re: Roger Rabbit: very indy-like fedora

Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 3:11 pm
by RCSignals
It's not as if that bash style didn't exist before Raiders of the lost arc

It may as well not have though, as pretty much anyone wearing a brown fedora will more often than not be asked, or get a comment about Indiana Jones. (unless of course you are in a Starbuck's in London)

Re: Roger Rabbit: very indy-like fedora

Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 3:18 pm
by Fedora
May be a hat Art leased out. He has done that in the past. Art has a nice collection of vintage hats and these days, alot of films just lease hats. Way back, each studio had its own hatter to make the hat, when needed. Fedora

Re: Roger Rabbit: very indy-like fedora

Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 3:38 pm
by MustangLoverMex
DR Ulloa wrote:Quando uno no duerme ni toma cafe, eso es lo que pasa. Necesito cafeina. Si no me tomo una Coca Cola ahor mismo me voy a caer de sueno. :lol:

Dave
Hahahaha! :rolling: That's a fact and I'm in the same mood too hahaha. I really need to get a nap or something... :H:

Regards,
-Alfonso :D

Btw, your spanish is quite good! :clap:

Re: Roger Rabbit: very indy-like fedora

Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 3:51 pm
by DR Ulloa
It better be. I learned it before I did English.

Dave

Re: Roger Rabbit: very indy-like fedora

Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 4:31 pm
by darthjones
Hey Gang! I don't remember WHERE I got the info. but Herbert Johnson did indeed do the hats for Roger Rabbit. You can even find it (or could find it) in some of their catalogue write ups.

But they did claim to have done the hats.

The Eddie Valient hat looks to be a Poet with a narrower brim and bound edge put on it perhaps.

Re: Roger Rabbit: very indy-like fedora

Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 4:48 pm
by Travelsonic
darthjones wrote:
The Eddie Valient hat looks to be a Poet with a narrower brim and bound edge put on it perhaps.

I didn't want to say it, since I didn't want to be accused of stretching/pushing any potential links, but it did seem VERY poet like.

Re: Roger Rabbit: very indy-like fedora

Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 8:55 pm
by theinterchange
I gotta ask, at the end of the movie did they turn Roger into a hat? :lol:

Randy

Re: Roger Rabbit: very indy-like fedora

Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 9:02 pm
by Ranger36
:lol:

Re: Roger Rabbit: very indy-like fedora

Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 10:05 pm
by havershaw
Coincidentally, I know something about this.

I met Richard LeParmentier a little while back, who played Lt. Santino in the film (he also played General Motti in Star Wars).
I specifically asked him about the costuming on the film, although I was mostly interested in the suits because only a few days earlier I had been swearing up and down to my wife that they HAD to be vintage, because no modern suits look like that (especially his).

He said that every piece of costuming was vintage, suits and hats included. Since the bulk of the film was shot in England, he said they got almost all of the suits from a vintage clothing place in England, but in the end, they didn't have enough and had to send to LA for a few more things for some of the extras and minor characters. But he was VERY clear about the fact that everything was vintage. He said it was a particular obsession on that set.

Final coincidence: my son and I watched this movie on DVD last night. weird.

Re: Roger Rabbit: very indy-like fedora

Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 1:23 pm
by Treadwell
Thanks for the screengrabs! Although anyone analyzing them should realize that the grabs are not at the proper aspect ratio, so the hat looks taller than it really is.