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Removing the Slider from a Todd's Strap

Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 8:13 pm
by theinterchange
I'm wanting to switch out the slider on my Todd's strap but there isn't a Chicago screw, just some sort of snap. I've tried pulling it apart with a little force but am afraid to damage the strap.

Anyone have experience switching the sliders on a Todd's?

Randy

Re: Removing the Slider from a Todd's Strap

Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 10:25 pm
by gwyddion
It's not a snap but some kind of rivet. You could try to drill it out, but you have to be carefull: the drill might slip.

Regards, Geert

Re: Removing the Slider from a Todd's Strap

Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 12:17 am
by TheExit148
Yup, drilling is more or less the only way (even google says so :lol: ) Thats what I had to do to get mine off to swap it for an AB. Just be careful, like gwyddion says, the drill can slip, mine did a little and carved a nice line into the strap. Good thing is its covered by the strap itself and its facing your chest :tup:

Re: Removing the Slider from a Todd's Strap

Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 1:35 am
by Indiana Jeff
Put a few layers of masking tape on the strap around the rivet. Then, if the drill bit slips there's less chance you'll nick the leather. The key is to go slow. Real slow. Slower than that...

Regards,

Indiana Jeff

Re: Removing the Slider from a Todd's Strap

Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 2:03 am
by ravencrow
if you can get a par of needle nose pliers you can jimmy the rivet and brake it i do it all the time

Re: Removing the Slider from a Todd's Strap

Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 12:59 pm
by theinterchange
I have access to tape, pliers, drills, the whole bit. My dad has a ton of tools, so why buy your own when you can walk into the garage and get most anything you need?! :lol:

Randy

Re: Removing the Slider from a Todd's Strap

Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 1:54 pm
by ravencrow
i would but i never had a dad, now i am one, go figure

Re: Removing the Slider from a Todd's Strap

Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 1:58 pm
by matt black
Hey Ravencrow. Use a centre punch on the middle of the rivet first. Then use a nice sharp drill bit. With a centre punch dimple a drill will not slip. :tup:

Re: Removing the Slider from a Todd's Strap

Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 1:59 pm
by Mountaineer
Before drilling, use a center punch.

You want to lightly tap the center punch with a hammer and create a small dent on the head of the rivet.

This indentation will "hold" the drill bit as you start it spinning.

Go slow, so as to not heat/burn the leather with the heat generated by drilling and you should be fine.

Matt, just saw you said the same...

Re: Removing the Slider from a Todd's Strap

Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 2:10 pm
by matt black
Yeah. but you said it better ;)

Re: Removing the Slider from a Todd's Strap

Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 2:17 pm
by Mountaineer
matt black wrote:Yeah. but you said it better ;)
LOL. Thanks.

I'm in the process of doing this very thing, so it's up front on my brain.
Except I'm using a Texas Action Gear buckle.

Re: Removing the Slider from a Todd's Strap

Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 2:21 pm
by theinterchange
Mountaineer wrote:
matt black wrote:Yeah. but you said it better ;)
LOL. Thanks.

I'm in the process of doing this very thing, so it's up front on my brain.
Except I'm using a Texas Action Gear buckle.
I was thinking of buying one of those buckles

Randy

Re: Removing the Slider from a Todd's Strap

Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 2:26 pm
by Mountaineer
theinterchange wrote:
Mountaineer wrote:
matt black wrote:Yeah. but you said it better ;)
LOL. Thanks.

I'm in the process of doing this very thing, so it's up front on my brain.
Except I'm using a Texas Action Gear buckle.
I was thinking of buying one of those buckles

Randy

Well, it's a buckle; it's got more rounded edges whereas the original on Todd's are squared off.
It fits the width of Todd's strap nicely.

I got it in the mail and then the sinking feeling of "Crud, I bet there is only one screw one the strap and the other is a rivet" hit me. No problem, time to modify...

Re: Removing the Slider from a Todd's Strap

Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 10:25 pm
by Cammer
Guys... you don't have to drill out the rivet. You are over thinking it. Just use a pair of wire cutter pliers and snip it off. It's not difficult. Slip the sharp edges of the wire cutter under the rivet head and squeeze. It takes about 5 seconds to remove one of those rivets. I did the same thing to my Todd's strap. Easy stuff.

Re: Removing the Slider from a Todd's Strap

Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:32 am
by Mountaineer
Just giving the guy options, along with information he needs so he doesn't booger it up and ruin his stuff if he does decide to drill.

Wire cutters are just as acceptable an option.

Re: Removing the Slider from a Todd's Strap

Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 3:36 pm
by Wade Egan
I use the same utility cutters on rivets that I do on leather. You just need to get under the cap with the edge of the cutter and squeeze. Or go between the folded leather and cut the middle of the rivet post. The rivet will cut clean off and you can then pull the post out with no damage to the strap leather on the visible side. If you scrap the leather at all with anything, just use a sharpie on the scratch and wipe it quickly with your finger to dull.

I do this all the time with rivets. Easy as pie.


W.E.

Re: Removing the Slider from a Todd's Strap

Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 5:34 pm
by theinterchange
I thought of wire cutters but wanted to see if someone had a better idea. And in reality, I feel this thread's making me out to look like a moron! :anxious: :lol:

Randy

Re: Removing the Slider from a Todd's Strap

Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:10 pm
by Mountaineer
theinterchange wrote:I thought of wire cutters but wanted to see if someone had a better idea. And in reality, I feel this thread's making me out to look like a moron! :anxious: :lol:

Randy
Don't feel that way; there are just that many opinionated people in Club Obi Wan.

Pretty much no matter what you think on any related subject, there's going to be at least one opposing viewpoint from someone.

Just roll with the punches.

Re: Removing the Slider from a Todd's Strap

Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:45 pm
by theinterchange
Well, I was slightly exaggerating.

Re: Removing the Slider from a Todd's Strap

Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 8:20 pm
by gwyddion
Talking about feeling like a moron: D-OH!! ](*,) Wire cutters! Offcourse! Must have been al that time I spent at my dad's car-repairshop the past week that kept me from thinking straight and suggest the drilling :roll: That's what you get for helping your dad out with some body-work :lol:

Regards, Geert

Re: Removing the Slider from a Todd's Strap

Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 11:14 am
by theinterchange
I couldn't find the wire cutters, so opted for tin snips instead. Worked great with no real "damage" to the strap. I got a kick out of the stock buckle. It's about as wonky looking as can be when you see it alone. I'll take a pic for reference.

Image

All "straight" lines slant to one side, and one side of the buckle is wider than the other both directions.
Randy

Re: Removing the Slider from a Todd's Strap

Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 8:12 pm
by RCSignals
What are those marks all over the buckle? From the jaws of a vice?

How did the blade of the tin snips fair?

Re: Removing the Slider from a Todd's Strap

Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 8:31 pm
by theinterchange
Those marks are over-zealousness on my part. I was distressing the strap and ran the buckle across concrete. :anxious: Thus my desire to change out buckles!

Randy