Club Obi Wan

As many of you know I have been working on my Indy handgun collection for the past couple of years. Due to some upcomming rough financial times for me I am forced to stop my collecting until things get better. You may have noticed my Avatar showing the guns in my collection but I thought this would be a good time to share a few better photos.


Below are my handguns from the 4 movies. I also have the Remington 1875 and Browning Hi-Power from ROTLA but those are both back in my home in Hawaii so I could not include them in the photos here.

In the future I am hoping to acquire the Luger P08, Mauser C96 "Broomhandle", Webley Mk III Commercial Contract, and a Colt M1911. An Inglis Hi-Power and both a 2 inch snub nose and a three inch S&W Model 10 M&P would complete the collection.

I'm glad to be able to share my collection with my fellow COW members. Let's see some other "collections" that the rest of you may have! Thanks!!





Raiders of the Lost Ark



Temple of Doom



Last Crusade



Kingdom of the Crystal Skull

A fine collection indeed!

Here are some of my hand guns:


A: Luger, S/42
B: P-38 dtd 1941
C: CZ 27 (War time production)
D: .38 S&W
E: Walther PK (War time production)
F: Walther PPK (War time production)
G: Belgian copy of a British Bull Dog

Alphared6,

Saw that photo in a previous thread and was wondering what "C" was. Thanks for ID'ing the guns this time. Very nice collection! I want that Luger P08!!

Woow! Great collections! I have only some Walther PPK and a P-38 toygun.

I recently purchased a S&W Model 22 with a 4" barrel.

rbinko2001 wrote:I recently purchased a S&W Model 22 with a 4" barrel.

;0

This is my baby. The first (and only) gun I've ever owned. Wish I could fire it.

whipwarrior wrote:This is my baby. The first (and only) gun I've ever owned. Wish I could fire it.

Why can't ya fire it?

Indiana Bond wrote:Alphared6,

Very nice collection! I want that Luger P08!!

Interesting story about that P-08. I had gone to a gun show and saw this guy walking about with a sign taped to his jacket "Luger 4 sale cheep!" So I figured I'd bite. He pulled out this pistol, it was spot welded shut in four places securing the upper and lower receivers together. I asked what he wanted for the piece, he said a 'hunard dollars ($100.00). I offered his $75.00, he agreed.
I took the weapon to a buddy who, among other things, is a school trained Special Forces armorer. In 30 minutes he had the tiny welds removed (he said they just "popped" off.) and had covered the small spots where the original bluing had come off. The lanes and grooves in the barrels were very sharp. The weapons has all matched parts!
I've always heard stories about people who had such prizes fall in their laps ... this is mine.

Why can't ya fire it?

No adapter clips and obsolete (probably expensive) ammunition. That pretty much sums it up.

whipwarrior wrote:

Why can't ya fire it?

No adapter clips and obsolete (probably expensive) ammunition. That pretty much sums it up.

If the weapon was modified to fire .45ACP then yes, you'll need some half moon clips or .45 rimed. If not you'll need .455 Webley. All ammo has gotten expensive, and I'd venture to say that in the next 3.5 years it'll become even more expensive. It is nonetheless available.

Mike

alphared6 wrote:Interesting story about that P-08. I asked what he wanted for the piece, he said a 'hunard dollars ($100.00). I offered him $75.00, he agreed.

Psst.... Alphared3, I'll give ya double for it. How 'bout 'hunard fif'y??


Great story my friend! One day I'll get that lucky!!

I guess everyone gets that lucky at least once in their lives. Or at least should.

Mike

Dragonlady Jones wrote:

rbinko2001 wrote:I recently purchased a S&W Model 22 with a 4" barrel.

;0

Yeah, you just can't tell us what you've got and not share a picture with us . I dig on my M22. That sucker is one loud, mule-kicking little hand-cannon!



( and I'm officially envious of you, alphared. Only a 'hunard dollars'?! That's just criminal! )

EDIT: My bad, alphared - it was indeed $75 and not a 'hunard' dollars - I didn't re-read your post before posting myself. Congrats on a true steal .

Here's one of mine, a High Standard .357 Mag:

Solent MKIII wrote:(...and I'm officially envious of you, alphared6. Only a 'hunard dollars'?! That's just criminal! )

A hundred dollars would indeed have been ridiculous, but if you'll read it again, he accepted $75.00 for the piece!

Mike

Oh ... here my .45 Revolver:

Hey everyone! Thanks for sharing! I was really hoping to see some more "Indy" guns that we would consider "screen accurate". I know others have collected the S&W 1917 or H.E., the Webley, and/or the Hi-Power.

Let's see some more of the "screen accurate" guns out there!! And if you need to see which guns are considered "screen accurate" the following links will help!!

Thanks!!






Raiders of the Lost Ark

Temple of Doom

Last Crusade

Kingdom of the Crystal Skull

Indiana Bond wrote:Let's see some more of the "screen accurate" guns out there!! And if you need to see which guns are considered "screen accurate" the following links will help!!

Thanks!!

Ok, that's easy for me ... Other than the Styer on the far left and the barrel and the receiver of the Japanese Type 100 SMG these are "Indy guns" from our collection

An MG-34, an MP-40 and an M1A1 .45 Thompson.



We also have the Browning .30 LMG, AK-47's out the Wazoo, RPG 2's and 7's, just to name a few.

Picture was taken in our Arms Room work shop.



Mike

Mike!

Very Cool!!

I wish I could collect some of that "heavy artillery". Right now I have to make due with the "light sidearms".

Thanks for posting!!!

Well, here's what I have. It's a S&W 1917 with all matching numbers. Produced in 1918 and picked up in good condition for a steal. Bought it at the Nation's Gun Show. I have an extra barrel and new grips. There in lies the dilemma. I was going to convert it to a Bapty or a Stem. But I've realized I have the perfect amalgam of Indy Guns. S&W Frame. Front sight like the Stem. Medallion grips like the Bapty. Silver medallion grips from TOD (obviously S&W, not Colt, but who cares). Long Barrel like the Webley. Don't know What I'll do with it. Probably buy more and convert them!

That distressed holster looks great, Tundrarider - I've gotta do that to my Keppler someday.

alphared6 wrote:

That's not fair, alphared! The only firearms we can get like that here in California are severly neutered semi-auto versions. Good lookin' stuff. Always wanted to fire an MP-40 "burp gun". Wasn't the MG-34 the machine gun mounted on the back of the nazi jeep in Raiders?

Tundrarider wrote:

Dragonlady Jones wrote:

Dragonlady Jones,

Is that a Keppler holster? Here's my Keppler after some wet forming and distressing.



The definitions and distressing don't show up as well in the photo, as in real life. I like the holster a lot more distressed and formed. (I like ALL my gear more after some distressing! )

After all, it's INDY GEAR!

Michael

It is indeed a Keppler. I'm going to wet form it this weekend and apply a liberal amount of Pecard's. Just out of curiosity, what did you do to distress yours?

Solent MKIII wrote:That distressed holster looks great, Tundrarider - I've gotta do that to my Keppler someday.

alphared6 wrote:

That's not fair, alphared! The only firearms we can get like that here in California are severly neutered semi-auto versions. Good lookin' stuff. Always wanted to fire an MP-40 "burp gun". Wasn't the MG-34 the machine gun mounted on the back of the nazi jeep in Raiders?

Not fair? All you have to do is relocate out of the Peoples Republic of Kalifornia.
Yes, I believe the MG-34 was the weapon in question. You may recall it also made several appearances in Star Wars as an Imperial Blaster of some sort.
Mike

Here's my old HEII (which now belongs to PrettyBigGuy):

NICE PIECE Dr. J!

My Colt is an old war horse. Looks as if it's been there and done that. The lanes and groves are sharp however. It remain as accurate as it was designed to be in 1917.





Big hand requires a big gun.
Mike

That is a great looking Bapty clone, Dr._J - PrettyBigGuy is indeed pretty lucky! I like the stampings on the bottom of the grip frame - very cool.

alphared wrote: Not fair? All you have to do is relocate out of the Peoples Republic of Kalifornia.

That's PRK, for short. I'd hate to leave mainly because my family and most of my friends are still here, but I was able to pick up a semi-auto Thompson last fall, so life's not too bad. I saw a pair of semi-auto Browning 1919A1's for sale at one of the last shows I went to and was like: Why is it I always see the cool stuff right after I mail off my bills?

Tundrarider wrote: That is sweet! PrettyLuckyGuy, you mean!!!

I like the shot of the bottom of the grips...classic!

Michael

Yes,When Dr. J made me the offer, I certainly couldn't refuse to buy such a beautifully converted pistol. Those pics were taken before he switched the grips out for grips with the SA gold medalllions (those pictured were silver).
It's also important to note that the only reason he sold it is because he bought one that was even nicer! One that used to belong to Rundquist and before him, Lee Keppler (I think). Dr.J, you've got to post some pics of that beauty.

Solent MKIII wrote:That is a great looking Bapty clone, Dr._J - PrettyBigGuy is indeed pretty lucky! I like the stampings on the bottom of the grip frame - very cool.

alphared wrote: Not fair? All you have to do is relocate out of the Peoples Republic of Kalifornia.

That's PRK, for short. I'd hate to leave mainly because my family and most of my friends are still here, but I was able to pick up a semi-auto Thompson last fall, so life's not too bad. I saw a pair of semi-auto Browning 1919A1's for sale at one of the last shows I went to and was like: Why is it I always see the cool stuff right after I mail off my bills?

Semi-auto Thompson? Can you say oxymoron? Sure ya can.

Solent, if you don't mind me asking, if you are in CA how did you go about aquiring the semi-auto thompson's? I'm intrigued as I thought that would qualify its self as a bad scary "assault rifle" in CA do to its pistol grip.

These are such good revolvers, semi-autos and long arms that it got me to pull out one of mine.

I got my Brazilian contract S&W 1917 from a shop in Connecticut via Gunbroker last October/November and had it shipped to a local dealer within a week. It was $450 plus the shipping and transfer fee, so about $475 or so total. That was mainly due to it having been reblued and regripped with stag antler grips, all collector value was basically gone.

I'd never bought a firearm online and was worried that with this being a Brazilian model, their use of corrosive ammo and environmental conditions being what they are in South America, I may be getting something more like a smooth bore pistol. Totally not the case.

All I've done is replaced it's "original" grips with the current wooden grip offered by S&W.





Oh, and I've shot it. All worries about accuracy went out the door once I figured out where it likes to point for good (center of mass) hits.
This is about 25 feet. An average, good range for a pistol.

Nice, Mountaineer!

alphared6 wrote:Semi-auto Thompson? Can you say oxymoron? Sure ya can.

Mighty_Draw wrote:Solent, if you don't mind me asking, if you are in CA how did you go about aquiring the semi-auto thompsons? I'm intrigued as I thought that would qualify its self as a bad scary "assault rifle" in CA do to its pistol grip.

These pics show a "bullet-button" style magazine lock installed. The pistol grip is the only banned feature on this rifle under CA's AW law. One of three things will make it legal here. 1-remove the pistol grip , 2-modify the grip so as not to allow a pistol-style grasp ( some guys cut a slot in the back of the grip and install a fin that tapers back to the buttstock ), 3-keep the grip and install a magazine lock. A small hole is drilled in the side of the grip into which a small plunger and spring are installed. The plunger goes through the existing hole in the mag catch lever and locks the mag in place. The mag can only be released with the aid of a tool ( pointed bullet tip, or small punch ). With this setup though, you are only allowed to use 10-round mags. Metroshot in San Fernando, and Cold War Shooters ( where I got mine ) in Highland are two of the shops that I know of down here in SoCal that sell Tommys. Check out this site and do a search and you'll find a bunch more info.

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/index.php

Mountaineer wrote:This is about 25 feet. An average, good range for a pistol.

That's fine shoot'n!



Mike

Dr._J wrote:Here's my old 1917 (which now belongs to PrettyBigGuy):

Nice pistol...

Thanks for the info Solent and new resource.

OT: I recently saw a Saiga IZ-132 (basically an AK variant sans pistol grip and requiring a unique mag) and having a heck of a time figuring out if its truly CA legal, as I've seen being claimed by some retailers or isn't... guess its time to register on that forum and find out.

Hey Solent MKIII,

Those images from calguns.net arn't coming up. Only get the dreaded "red X"! However when I log in to the calguns sight, as I am a member, then the photos show up here on this thread just fine. I guess when I sign in, the cookies get activated and the images will appear. Don't now if anyone else is having the same problem or not, but I just wanted to let you know.

Thanks for the great info!!

I copied the pics and relinked to them so they should show up for everybody now - thanks for the heads-up, IB. Calguns member too, eh? Great site - a lot of good info. You can find me over there under the alias "Trench Broom" ( I'd just picked up my Thompson when I registered, and that old nickname seemed a good pick ).

Thanks AlphaRed6.

My take on it all is that if I'm going to own it, I better be able to use it.

This revolver goes on my side when I get out in the mountains/woods around here; my Webley holster carries it fine.

My old go-to woods revolver was an Uberti Schofield in .45LC, but I've "updated" with this S&W.

Prior to that it was a Colt 1991A1 (updated from their 1911 series) that my folks got me after my first year in the Army. I had completed about 4 schools in a row and they wanted to get me something good for the efforts.

I try and get some real-world practical use of my stuff instead of letting it gather dust in the closet. I don't do that enough as of late, but I still try.

Mountaineer wrote:Thanks AlphaRed6.

My take on it all is that if I'm going to own it, I better be able to use it.

This revolver goes on my side when I get out in the mountains/woods around here; my Webley holster carries it fine.

My old go-to woods revolver was an Uberti Schofield in .45LC, but I've "updated" with this S&W.

Prior to that it was a Colt 1991A1 (updated from their 1911 series) that my folks got me after my first year in the Army. I had completed about 4 schools in a row and they wanted to get me something good for the efforts.

I try and get some real-world practical use of my stuff instead of letting it gather dust in the closet. I don't do that enough as of late, but I still try.

Where's "around here?"
Are you still in the Army? What unit?
Practical real world ... yes, I'm at the range a lot myself. In Oklahoma we have no true mountains but there's lot of wonderful places to explore, and ride (a horse) for days without seeing another human being.
I'm taking possession of an Armi Sport Spencer Rifle in .56/50 tomorrow. That'll be my new wilderness weapon.
Mike

I've been out of the Army for about 6 years now, and moved back to my home state, West Virginia.

When I was in, I was in the 101st at Ft. Campbell, specifically the 2nd Bn, 187th Infantry, and then went to Ft. Riley, assigned to the 1st Bn, 41st Infantry. Even though I was stationed at Riley, I only saw it for about half the time I was there. The other half, I was enjoying the sunnier weather and sand in SW Asia.

I've been to Oklahoma, a long time ago when we visited an uncle that lives in Texas. My dad had been stationed at Ft. Sill with Honest Johns prior to his 1967-1968 trip to SE Asia and he took us out to see things there. That is quite beautiful country. We went out to Mt. Scott, I believe, and into some old church in the middle of nowhere. I liked it out there, almost desert-like grassland with good terrain; Southern California has something similar, more of a desert but the mountains there make it a neat experience.

I'm not a daily carry guy, but I try and stay proficient with my "toys". So when I do get to go out and about in the "wild, wonderful" territory around here I tend to carry something. We actually have quite a coyote population and I try and be ready for one if we happen upon each other.

The Spencer is a pretty uncommon, throwback rifle. Are you into Civil War era stuff too? Either way it should be fun shooting. Are you getting the quick load tubes also?

I thought something while in Kansas, and I'm sure it is the same in Oklahoma; out there the old west seemed much closer to today. I got into the cowboy style of firearms during my time there. Prior to getting to Kansas I had the Schofield, but I had to pick up an Uberti 1873 Peacemaker as well as a good two-gun rig after I got there. I never got the replica .45LC Winchester 1873 or a .45/70 Rolling Block I wanted, but man did I look at them.

Ahhhh the "One Oh One." I've several buddies that served with them in the Gulf War of 90-91.
I'm Airborne qualified (US and German) but have never been assigned to an Abn unit.

I was in 20 years and served in Armor and Cav units. My Regimental affiliation is the 7th Cav.

I did some WW1, WWII and ACW reenacting back in the 90's before my old war wounds started reminding me of their presents with the onset of age.

We have two Spencer carbines and a Spencer rifle in the Museum's collection. I've always thought the rifle was a good looking, well designed (in its 1865 configuration) rifle. So when this opportunity presented its self ... I took it. And yes. I'll be picking up the Blakeslee Box as soon as I can find a replica in .56 Spencer. Seems they are plentiful in .44, the .56 is difficult to find.

Mike

While the service of all who serve or have served in the military is greatly appreciated and respected, we might want to drift this back to topic talk about sharing your Indy guns.

You guys are quick; I was afraid we'd gotten too off track. Thanks for the correction.

A/Red 6: I always liked the wood on those rifles. Very transitional between the smooth-bore/rifled muzzle-loaders and the repeating arms that followed. Enjoy that piece.

Yes, of all the "repeaters" that were developed during the Civil War only two were really worth their salt; the Spencer (1860/65) and the Henry (1860). The Henry of course morphed into the Winchester. In the post Civil War years any of the two mentioned weapons would have been preferable to the "Trap Door" that was adopted!

On the down side...50 rounds of .56/50 today cost between $135.00 and $160.00!

I'll post pix of the rifle when it arrives.

Mike

As promised:

alphared6 wrote:As promised:

Nice. Very nice. That should be fun to shoot.

You never mentioned if it was a replica or the real deal; congrats in advance if it is the real deal.

Well congrats anyway, but more so if you scored an oldie but goodie.

After our big exchange above I got to thinking about what revolvers, auto-pistols, rifles, sub-guns, and other small arms that have been, at some point, in the Indy-lore.

I'm guessing that between the Young IJ series and the movies (books/comics too maybe) you could just about show anything developed since the U.S. Civil War and have it fit the bill of this post.

Thank you very much!
It's a firing replica by Armi Sports. I have some ammo on order and hope to be at the range with it by Aug. Hunting by the fall.

About "Indy guns." The title of this thread is "Share your guns." I figure if you had a death ray gun you could post it here.

Maybe, but due to the initial posting, it was implied that folks should share their Indy gun collections, especially since that's what this forum is about.

Sorry to jump in, but I'd like to offer my two centavos. Judging by the number of replies and images posted, I don't think there are too many people in COW with one, let alone a collection, of Indy guns.
Now don't get me wrong, I love seeing IG's. But, as a collector and avid shooter, I don't mind seeing what other folks have spent their hard earned money on. It's interesting and informative. Besides, new replies keep this topic near the top!

BTW Bink, I'm sure there are plenty of folks who are jealous of your Indy stockpile - myself included.

I didn't start this post, but if it matters that much, why not bump the whole thing out of the "Guns & Holsters" section and put it in "Lao Che's Table"?

That way, us multi-piece-owning, gun-talking deviants might not run too afoul of the law.

(Please realize that is said with much humor and not to be taken as a dig on anyone doing their job as monitor.)