Club Obi Wan

Posted: **Tue Aug 12, 2003 4:40 pm**

I just got back from the New Braumfels Leather Co. that Pyroxene mentioned in a previous thread. They have a pretty good selection of whips to choose from. I bought a leather covered 12 ft. swivel handle for $63 bucks. The woman at the front desk was very sweet and helpful. She told me that she could also make me a whip holder although they didn't have any in stock. They could make them in about a day or so for about $15. Really nice place. I will post pics when I get back in town.

Posted: **Wed Aug 13, 2003 5:18 pm**

I do have a question about my new whip? The fall is rather wide on my whip. Would this affect my whipcracking. I may be using the wrong terminology but the fall is what is connected to the popper? Correct? Would my fall need to be trimmed down to a smaller width?

Posted: **Wed Aug 13, 2003 5:25 pm**

I have a swivel handle bullwhip as well, and following the advice of COW's own Sergei, I trimmed down the fall. I believe the wide fall is pretty charactaristic of American latigo bullwhips. I'd get more opinions from some of the more expeirenced whip handlers around here first though!
PBG

Posted: **Wed Aug 13, 2003 10:48 pm**

prettybigguy wrote:I have a swivel handle bullwhip as well, and following the advice of COW's own Sergei, I trimmed down the fall. I believe the wide fall is pretty charactaristic of American latigo bullwhips. I'd get more opinions from some of the more expeirenced whip handlers around here first though!
PBG

Ditto.

Additionally, Mark Allen and Alex Green suggested trimming down the fall of a whip like that. And, I would attach a less "waxy" popper to the end.

Pyro.

PS - Too bad I missed you, Blackthorne. I would have like to meet another gearhead and trade stories. Maybe next time.

P.

Posted: **Wed Aug 13, 2003 11:26 pm**

Is the fall attached separately or actually part of the thong (main braided part of the whip)?

Posted: **Thu Aug 14, 2003 1:05 am**

Part of the thong.

Posted: **Thu Aug 14, 2003 10:07 am**

Yes, the fall is part of the thong. How far should I trim it down? Did you do the same to yours Pyroxene? As it stands, I can pop this 12 footer but I imagine the wider fall is causing some drag to the whip.

Posted: **Thu Aug 14, 2003 12:30 pm**

In the past, I have made it about 1 inch wide. Or, just slightly thinner than the braided part of the thong. That way, there is that continuous taper as the energy travels down the length of the whip.

Posted: **Thu Aug 14, 2003 2:48 pm**

Pyroxene,
I just realized your picture blinks its eyes ala wizard trading cards. That didn't keep it from scaring the @#$% out of me when I first saw it.

Posted: **Thu Aug 14, 2003 7:52 pm**

I have Pyro to thank for getting me my first ever whip from Braumfels. Admittedly when I had the chance to crack it for the first time along with the likes of a DM and JS I was a little disappointed, but I am gradually begining to become competant at whip cracking I am finding it less difficult to user the Braumfels version, it just needs a little more muscle to get it to crack. So it is actually a rather good whip for its price and i am thinking of trimming the fall down too.

However, beside my JS which I was recently fortunate enough to aquire I am afraid it will always be my stunt whip

Many thanks Pyro!

Ken

Posted: **Thu Aug 14, 2003 11:57 pm**

Blackthorne Rose wrote:Pyroxene,
I just realized your picture blinks its eyes ala wizard trading cards. That didn't keep it from scaring the @#$% out of me when I first saw it.

I made one for Doctor Jones too.

It's the best one yet.

Posted: **Fri Aug 15, 2003 1:01 am**

Ken, how are you liking your JS whip? That was pretty fast. Did you go th Western Stage Props route or the direct from Joe route?

Posted: **Fri Aug 15, 2003 10:35 am**

Pyro, I want to repost this...sorry to take the liberty!

Pyroxene wrote: Here are the prices:
12 foot Whip Leather Swivel Handle: $53.90 +shipping
10 foot Whip Leather Swivel Handle: $46.92 +shipping
8 foot Whip Leather Swivel Handle: $39.80 +shipping
6 foot Whip Leather Swivel Handle: $32.91 +shipping
12 foot Whip Non-Swivel Natural Wood Handle: $62.30 +shipping
10 foot Whip Non-Swivel Natural Wood Handle: $56.00 +shipping
8 foot Whip Non-Swivel Natural Wood Handle: $44.10 +shipping
6 foot Whip Non-Swivel Natural Wood Handle: $36.90 +shipping
Poppers: $0.80/ea +shipping (12 or more: $0.40/ea +shipping)
Whip Holder: $15.00 +shipping

The Natural Wood Leather Handle whips are the only Non-Swivel whips they offer.

Before you order, I have to say this.
There have been times in the past when new vendors were alienated from onslaught of calls from IndyGear fans. Please exercise tact when dealing with any new vendor. Especially in this case as they are my "neighbors".

Here is a quote from Indiana John from the old COW for those of you who are new and perhaps missed this topic.:

Quote:
It's not necessary to give out information when buying a product...you don't owe an explanation...it's a business transaction. Of course, it's not a means to be rude either...so if someone asks, then be brief and very generic--don't associate the purchase with Indiana Jones. If I heard the words "Indiana Jones" as a vendor, dollar signs would light-up for me too! So don't blurt out stuff...

In general regarding any vendors, think before you speak. The best way for this hobby to be ruined...is for someone to say something stupid, and blow it for the lot of us. It only takes one...

-John

They are:
New Braunfels Leather Co. Inc.
197 S. Seguin Ave.
P.O. Box 311506
New Braunfels, Texas 78131-1506

Office Phone: 830-625-3522
Store Phone: 830-629-0540
Toll Free: 1-800-683-1629
Fax: 830-608-1861

Hours (Central Time):
Monday - Friday: 8am - 12pm & 1pm - 5pm
Saturday - 8am - 12pm
Sunday - Closed

I recommend that you call and speak to Paul. I have been working exclusively with him. Again, these are nice people and I would put them up there with Peter and others as far as wanting to make the customer happy.

I included the post by John and your comments as yet another reminder.
I love this whip...and at $40?!?!??!?! I may be calling them this week. Any more advice before I call?

Thanks in advance.

Peace,
Cliffhanger

Posted: **Fri Aug 15, 2003 10:51 am**

So, what do these look like? Anyone have pics they can post?

And are they cowhide? 4-plait, 6-plait, 8-plait?

Thanks.

Posted: **Fri Aug 15, 2003 11:13 am**

Mine was a 12 ft. cowhide, 8 plait. I will post some pics when I get home tormorrow.

Posted: **Fri Aug 15, 2003 11:27 am**

Wow, that is a great price, then. Can't wait to see how they look.

Posted: **Fri Aug 15, 2003 11:37 am**

Here is what they look like

Posted: **Fri Aug 15, 2003 11:39 am**

PropReplicator wrote:So, what do these look like? Anyone have pics they can post?

And are they cowhide? 4-plait, 6-plait, 8-plait?

Thanks.

They are 8 plait cowhide with a nylon core & swivel handel

Posted: **Fri Aug 15, 2003 11:53 am**

Hey, those pictures look exactly like the Texas Bullwhips "Indiana Jones Whip on Steroids" made from "Killer Bulls" that I got on eBay. Any chance they are affiliated somehow?

Posted: **Fri Aug 15, 2003 11:56 am**

Wow! Those are nice!

I wonder how hard it would be to cut that fall off, fix the end of the thong, and replace it with a more accurate white hide one?

Posted: **Fri Aug 15, 2003 12:02 pm**

rick5150 wrote:Hey, those pictures look exactly like the Texas Bullwhips "Indiana Jones Whip on Steroids" made from "Killer Bulls" that I got on eBay. Any chance they are affiliated somehow?

According to Paul @ NB Leather, they buy them from a third party. More than likely, they buy from the same or a similar vendor.

Posted: **Fri Aug 15, 2003 7:07 pm**

ITG

I have been out practising a lot and am really getting into whip cracking - its so addictive and with a JS pure poetry in motion. I have pretty much perfected (well to my satisfaction) the overhead crack and am improving everytime on the forward crack, and today managed the forward throw. I just cant get the side arm crack at all and today disaster - the popper came off the end and I have no other ones! Where do I turn now?

Ken

PS - Requested from WSP one made by JS - had to wait 4 weeks.

Posted: **Fri Aug 15, 2003 7:53 pm**

Ken,

Looks like now is the time to learn to make your own poppers.

Poly baling twine, or poly packing twine are very good materials.

Take a piece of twine approx 20" long. If it is baler twine, split the number of strands in half. Just start at one end and unravel the twine.

Next do it like the old timers, and hold one end in your teeth. Twist the twine from the other end. I like to twist it against the original lay of the twine. It seems too hold together better. Twist it tight, then hold the twisted end, place your finger in the middle of the strand, and fold the free end back towards your mouth.

Then let the middle loose, and it should twist the two strands together. Tie off the bottom end about 3 inches back with a blood knot, pull it tight and you have a new cracker.

Hope that helps.

Jerry R

ps. The other way to twist the twine is to secure one end in a vice, and tie the other end to a loop held in the chuck of a drill. Then slowly twist the twine.

Posted: **Fri Aug 15, 2003 8:02 pm**

if your are looking for replacement falls and crackers try david morgan I've bought replacements from them often, takes about a week or so.
Lindiana

Posted: **Fri Aug 15, 2003 8:30 pm**

Hey thanks!

I feel like a real whip enthusiast now that I actually have to replace a popper. I just dont want to go too much further (like have to replace an eye or other vital body part!)

Ken

Posted: **Sat Aug 16, 2003 11:28 am**

So, any advice before ordering? I plan to call this week, possibly even Monday. What are the payment methods?

Thanks in advance,
Cliffhanger

Posted: **Sat Aug 16, 2003 1:04 pm**

If you get a chance check out their website, it should have all the answers you need

Posted: **Sat Aug 16, 2003 9:34 pm**

Here is the pic of the 12 ft. I bought from them. Hey Pyroxene, where on the knot can I place the screw to stop the handle from swiveling. And is your screw hidden by the leather?

Posted: **Sat Aug 16, 2003 10:28 pm**

I put mine right here. I had to muscle the strands to the side until I was able to sink the screw. Make sure you don't get a screw that is too long.

Posted: **Sat Aug 16, 2003 11:30 pm**

What's their Web Address?

-Doc

Posted: **Sun Aug 17, 2003 11:26 am**

I asked the lady that worked there and she said they didn't have one yet.

Posted: **Mon Aug 18, 2003 9:31 am**

If you go to New Braunfels don't miss going to Gruene Hall. It is the best honky tonk in Texas and where they filmed the bar scene in "Michael", the John Travolta movie.

Bill Walton

Club Obi Wan

New Braumfels Leather Co.

New Braumfels Leather Co.

Question about the fall of my whip?

What's their Web Site Address?