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Last weekend I gave my TN shrunken lamb a good soaking to try and shrink it a little. Now that I've got it back, it feels too big on me - especially compared to No.747. Anyway, it didn't shrink- but I did notice that the pocket snaps have have gone a bit rusty! Anyone else ever experienced that?

Why was it too big - I thought it ws tailored to you? And, why did you think soaking it would make it smaller? Surely that is an internet myth. I have soaked/washed a dozen jackets of all kinds of leather and not once did it change the fit. But they did have a better texture. And that's what I was after.

I've never soaked a jacket on purpose, but on my Chicago Bears stater jacket, I used it to shovel snow form being soaked from snow shoveling yes I've had that happen, but I thought maybe the salt did it.

jacksdad wrote:I've never soaked a jacket on purpose, but on my Chicago Bears stater jacket, I used it to shovel snow form being soaked from snow shoveling yes I've had that happen, but I thought maybe the salt did it.

Maybe it's just the cheaply made jackets that go bad.

CM wrote:Maybe it's just the cheaply made jackets that go bad.

Careful how you say that, CM. Whether you meant it to say it or not, it sounds like you just implied Tony's jackets are cheaply made.

I was not talking about TN's work. I always thought it was only cheap leather that shrank. Apologies for any misunderstanding.

No problem. I just wanted to be sure you clarified what you meant before others "clarified" for you.

Well I've had jackets shrink before aftergetting soaked in a downpour. In this case I deliberately soaked it and laid it out in the hot sun. Didn't work though.

Why is it too big? Well, it's not exactly too big - just feels a little too baggy. This is partly due to the way it hangs off the shoulders. My cowhide just feels like a better fit. No big difference, though it means I don't really wear the lamb.

As far as the rusting (rust or a tarnish?) it depends on what could have been in the water. A little salt in the water would od it. And chlorine or other chemicals will certainly discolor metal too. Even stainless will discolor under proper circumstances.

Taking a piece of metal, getting it wet with something with salt or other corrosives, then letting it air dry - especially in sunlight or heat - will promote rust.

But if it's just on the surface it should polish off. For comparison, my fisrt Nowak has been in the shower a few times and also been through a winter where we use a lot of salt on roads and walkways and the hardware is bright and shiney - including the big silver zip. I'd have to wash the jacket after wearing because white haze would appear on the leather from evaporated salt.

By the way, corrosion is a great reason brass hardware is used on clothing. All the salt from sweat combined with moisture makes for a metal-hostile environment.

whiskyman wrote:Well I've had jackets shrink before aftergetting soaked in a downpour. In this case I deliberately soaked it and laid it out in the hot sun. Didn't work though.

Why is it too big? Well, it's not exactly too big - just feels a little too baggy. This is partly due to the way it hangs off the shoulders. My cowhide just feels like a better fit. No big difference, though it means I don't really wear the lamb.

Whiskey have you considered the possibility that the 'magical shrunken lamb' knows the bad things you've said about it and is actually rejecting you and making you feel like 'less of a man' , or 'smaller' when you wear it.......

WM are you seriously complaining about what amounts to a free jacket after all the abuse you've dished out on it?

Bad day at the office Yojimbo?

Nope, pretty good. Invoiced a few grand, then just came back from a winning poker night. Ah, that's it, I've been calling people on stuff for the last few hours!

{Oh no, I'm starting to sound like... _!}

Yojimbo Jones wrote:WM are you seriously complaining about what amounts to a free jacket after all the abuse you've dished out on it?

NO! And besides this is not the free jacket and I didn't dish out ANY abuse despite what some members have decided to imply!
I'm not in fact complaining at all, merely observing. Once again I'm sorry I started a thread. I think I've finally learned my lesson. Shame, this used to be a fun place when I first joined up all thosde years ago.

My snaps haven't rusted but my side strap buckles did rust a bit, some steel wool fixed it. Of course if they're painted black or something like that the steel wool will make scratches on the paintjob. But I think that counts as natural distressing, eh Michaelson?

But I think that counts as natural distressing, eh Michaelson?

whiskyman wrote:

Yojimbo Jones wrote:WM are you seriously complaining about what amounts to a free jacket after all the abuse you've dished out on it?

NO! And besides this is not the free jacket and I didn't dish out ANY abuse despite what some members have decided to imply!
I'm not in fact complaining at all, merely observing. Once again I'm sorry I started a thread. I think I've finally learned my lesson. Shame, this used to be a fun place when I first joined up all thosde years ago.

Guys, could you please stop that? The things Whisky had happen to his jacket were just a case of bad luck: it hapened to me in the past with thick cowhide jackets Please remember: It's Leather, not adamantium

Whiskey, rusty snaps are nothing to worry about: just clean them realy good and put some oil or pecards on it so it's sealed-of from oxigen. This will prevent further rusting (a trick I learned from collecting WWII gear).

Regards, Geert

Hey WHiskey, the rusting happened because dissimilar metals and electrolyte met with the right weather conditions.. Use a very very small wire brush and clean off the rust and then use a little bit of WD40 on the snaps.. not alot.. this should help..
if you want to coat them.. use a rust reisistant coating.. they usually sell it at any hardware store..
i work with metal support equipment out at sea so i know how to combat and make rust

Certain grades of stainless steel will rust. In the case of SS that 'rust' actually creates a protective layer and goes no further.

WM I'd just wipe it off and do as Geert suggested.

whiskyman wrote:

Yojimbo Jones wrote:WM are you seriously complaining about what amounts to a free jacket after all the abuse you've dished out on it?

NO! And besides this is not the free jacket and I didn't dish out ANY abuse despite what some members have decided to imply!
I'm not in fact complaining at all, merely observing. Once again I'm sorry I started a thread. I think I've finally learned my lesson. Shame, this used to be a fun place when I first joined up all thosde years ago.

Just to clarify WM. (And please don't take this as a personal attack, just an observation that I'm making for the sake of contextualising your comments over the last year or so and my own now.) It's more that you have a tendency to have a habit of complaining about things that put things in a bad light (be it Wsted or TN). This is despite the fact that IMHO you got a very good deal out of this particular set of circumstances, and one that I myself couldn't have imposed on any vendor because it wouldn't have felt right. You bought a lamb jacket, again, as Gwyddion has noted, is not carbon fibre, etc. How having those accidents occur gets it both repaired for free as well as parlaying it into another jacket on top happens, I don't know. All I can say is Tony's a REAALLLY nice guy. My point is, now you're again complaining about things YOU've done to the jacket in such a way that could be seen to be "the jacket's fault".

Yojimbo Jones wrote:

whiskyman wrote:

Yojimbo Jones wrote:WM are you seriously complaining about what amounts to a free jacket after all the abuse you've dished out on it?

NO! And besides this is not the free jacket and I didn't dish out ANY abuse despite what some members have decided to imply!
I'm not in fact complaining at all, merely observing. Once again I'm sorry I started a thread. I think I've finally learned my lesson. Shame, this used to be a fun place when I first joined up all thosde years ago.

Just to clarify WM. (And please don't take this as a personal attack, just an observation that I'm making for the sake of contextualising your comments over the last year or so and my own now.) It's more that you have a tendency to have a habit of complaining about things that put things in a bad light (be it Wsted or TN). This is despite the fact that IMHO you got a very good deal out of this particular set of circumstances, and one that I myself couldn't have imposed on any vendor because it wouldn't have felt right. You bought a lamb jacket, again, as Gwyddion has noted, is not carbon fibre, etc. How having those accidents occur gets it both repaired for free as well as parlaying it into another jacket on top happens, I don't know. All I can say is Tony's a REAALLLY nice guy. My point is, now you're again complaining about things YOU've done to the jacket in such a way that could be seen to be "the jacket's fault".

Yojimbo, for what it's worth: I don't read his posts as complaining, but as asking advice on a situation that resulted from something most people here do with their jackets. My guess is that Whisky just wanted to knock some of the shine off of that jacket and make it even more form fitting and he now believes it's slightly bigger (something I can immagine with shrunken lamb, to be honest) and is worried about a little rust on the snaps. No big deal realy. Only it is because of his misfortune and how it was presented on this board that people (not nessecarily you BTW) tend to see this in another way, something that Whisky is sensitive about because of all the criticism and allegations he had to endure last time.

This is in no way meant harsh towards you Yojimbo, and please don't take it that way, but I just want the record to be straight on this as I don't want to see anyone leave the boards because of what is basically a misunderstanding.

Regards, Geert

No Whiskyman, I never thought that your comment was negative. Just one of those "anybody run into this?" type posts. I'm too chicken to soak a jacket as I generally can't afford to lose any sleeve length, but it is pretty common and I've seen a lot of great results among those brave souls who did it.

Don't let it bug you. Keep everything oiled (or Pecarded) and you should be good. It's like maintenance on your armor. God save us from a rusty codpiece (everybody wonders how THAT got rusty)

whiskyman wrote:

Yojimbo Jones wrote:WM are you seriously complaining about what amounts to a free jacket after all the abuse you've dished out on it?

NO! And besides this is not the free jacket and I didn't dish out ANY abuse despite what some members have decided to imply!
I'm not in fact complaining at all, merely observing. Once again I'm sorry I started a thread. I think I've finally learned my lesson. Shame, this used to be a fun place when I first joined up all thosde years ago.

It's just the jacket section Whiskey. I generally stay out of here. Come on over to the other sections! They are still fun.

Travis

I'm sure that WM was just asking as a general "has this happened to you" situation but I also understand where Yojimbo is coming from. A few members have taken so many jabs and barbs that you get gun shy.

I believe enough reliable answers have been given, and enough blood shed on this one.

This one should have probably been posted in the 'gear care' section anyway, and will be moved there now.

Time to ring down the curtain.

Regard! Michaelson