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Westeds New 'Hero' Jacket
Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 7:05 am
by Raider Of The Lost Ark
Now I've been wary of mentioning this, as I did not want an early death in one of the famous 'bun fights' that occur here occasionally. The last one, over the leather, almost put me off completely, as I don't want to be the cause of arguments / bad feeling etc. However, another member has persuaded me to give it a try. I KNOW I need pictures but I am at work and will need to get home and take them, then learn how to post them.
I steped into the 20th century, just as the rest of you stepped into the 21st
Please help me keep this thread open
While waiting for the pictures I will describe it a bit for you, or those who are interested
It is described as the 'hero' jacket and has a 'Leather Concessionaires' lable. The sleeves are a little slimmer, than the previous pattern, and there are now gussets under the arms. The collar is bigger and you can pretty much do all the 'screen cap poses' I've seen. The pockets are also a little bigger than the 'standard' size previously offered. I went for some really nice softer goat, well to be truthfull it is the ONLY goat Wested do now. I could have had shrunkem lamb but wanted it 'tougher'. I also had the TOD tri glides put on it and it's got a brass zipper. The jacket 'moves around' a fair bit and I think 'falls off the shoulder' nicely. I really like it.
Now the other reason I was worried about posting was I was a little scared of the 'gear heads' here. Now I know they don't really bite
but I've been worried the jacket is a bit too long. Now this is mainly because my first one was SO short. I've seen so many great jackets here that I wonder if I'll ever be 'truely happy'. Hopefully all will be OK and you will like it and think it is SA (or such as it ever will be on me). Don't get me wrong I LOVE IT, I've just got it into my head that it should be shorter. I really should stop coming here
I'd VERY much appreciate your comments / feedback - good or bad.
Raider
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Re: Westeds New 'Hero' Jacket (pics on the way)
Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 7:56 am
by DeWayne
Interesting. Looking forward to the pics.
Re: Westeds New 'Hero' Jacket (pics on the way)
Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 8:09 am
by Michaelson
Personally, I'm not sure I understand what you're posting. Are you saying you picked up an old Leather Concessionaires jacket recently? If so, ok. They were sold out there through Lee Keppler for several years before the company became 'Wested Leather', so they're not that rare, though you don't see them surface too often.
Are you saying you somehow got hold of a production jacket? If so, prepare for a weather event, as you well suspect. We'll do our best to keep folks civil (remember our zero tolerance policy now, folks
).
Either way, if the jacket wasnt made for YOU, keep in mind, it may BE too long...or short...or what ever. It was made for whomever ordered it in the first place, not you, so don't let that bother you.
Anyway, looking forward to seeing the photos, and reading more information about your new acquisition!
EDIT: In re-reading your post, it appears you had it made, right? Are they now inserting the old Leather Concessionaires tag again? Interesting if that's so! It's the tag that puzzles me. Once again, who cares if it's 'long or short'. If it fits YOU, wear it proudly! It's your jacket, for heavens sake!
Regards! Michaelson
Re: Westeds New 'Hero' Jacket (pics on the way)
Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 8:11 am
by Heyjude7
, he's saying wested has a new offering!
Re: Westeds New 'Hero' Jacket (pics on the way)
Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 8:13 am
by binkmeisterRick
Or are you saying this is a modern Wested remake with a "Leather Concessionaires" repro label?
Re: Westeds New 'Hero' Jacket (pics on the way)
Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 8:15 am
by Michaelson
That's what I'm trying to get set in my cranium, Jude.
Yep, get ready for a 'weather event'. Keep it between the ditches, my friends.
Regards! Michaelson
Re: Westeds New 'Hero' Jacket (pics on the way)
Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 8:18 am
by Yojimbo Jones
Any news is good news, right?
Can't wait for the pics! Somebody give this man a Photobucket tutorial!
Re: Westeds New 'Hero' Jacket (pics on the way)
Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 8:20 am
by Heyjude7
, this is not gonna be pretty..good luck to us all.. for now..these dark times.... we are in... the JACKET WARS!
jus kiddin
Re: Westeds New 'Hero' Jacket (pics on the way)
Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 8:23 am
by Michaelson
Re: Westeds New 'Hero' Jacket (pics on the way)
Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 8:36 am
by Raider Of The Lost Ark
Sorry for being unclear. It is one of Westeds NEW Raiders paterns. It has the LC tag as Peter feels it is appropriate for this new 'Hero' pattern. It was made a few weeks ago for me. I get stressed about the length as since I've come here SA is big on my mind. I was never this obsessed before. You should have seen what I thought was an 'Indy' jacket before
Re: Westeds New 'Hero' Jacket (pics on the way)
Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 8:38 am
by Heyjude7
Come on! post some pics!
;0
Re: Westeds New 'Hero' Jacket (pics on the way)
Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 8:40 am
by PSBIndy
Even without seeing the pics, the jacket looks too long on you....the pocket dimensions are off.....the collar stand looks wrong, the storm flap is too wide, and the zipper teeth aren't spaced evenly......hey, I'm just getting a head start.
Re: Westeds New 'Hero' Jacket (pics on the way)
Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 8:43 am
by Raider Of The Lost Ark
Yojimbo Jones wrote:Any news is good news, right?
Can't wait for the pics! Somebody give this man a Photobucket tutorial!
Yes please!
. First need to get them off my I phone and onto the computer, then down the piece of string to the inter web...
Thanks PSBindy
. That's the voice of my inner critic I'm hearing...
Re: Westeds New 'Hero' Jacket (pics on the way)
Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 8:56 am
by Raider S
Shouldn't be a shock to anyone here - was actually expecting this copy (and whatever textured leather to go along) for quite some time now.
Re: Westeds New 'Hero' Jacket (pics on the way)
Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 9:06 am
by Heyjude7
couldnt wait for it to come out.. been holdin in the urge to spill the beans for months now!
Re: Westeds New 'Hero' Jacket (pics on the way)
Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 9:19 am
by TheExit148
Man... if this is a new pattern from Wested, I hope, HOPE they may use it on my jacket that is being made. I mean, it would be the worst if I get mine, and a day or so later BAM new jacket pattern at Wested on the site ready to roll, that is SA. Hopefully its the new custom ROLA pattern. Either way, its cool if they have this coming, and the Leather Concessionaires tag is pretty cool too. Anybody have anymore info? Jude... sounds like you may??
May have to ring them again today, even though I called yesterday
Re: Westeds New 'Hero' Jacket (pics on the way)
Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 9:21 am
by Dutch_jones
TheExit148 wrote:Man... if this is a new pattern from Wested, I hope, HOPE they may use it on my jacket that is being made. I mean, it would be the worst if I get mine, and a day or so later BAM new jacket pattern at Wested on the site ready to roll, that is SA. Hopefully its the new custom ROLA pattern. Either way, its cool if they have this coming, and the Leather Concessionaires tag is pretty cool too. Anybody have anymore info? Jude... sounds like you may??
May have to ring them again today, even though I called yesterday
No as far as I understand this is a new jacket option like the TOD the LC/CS and Raiders its not a different pattern on the current Raiders. It is a whole New Jacket option
Re: Westeds New 'Hero' Jacket (pics on the way)
Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 9:25 am
by TheExit148
Dutch_jones wrote:No this is a new jacket option like the TOD the LC/CS and Raiders its not a different pattern on the current Raiders. It is a whole New Jacket option
Man, maybe I can get them to switch mid way through haha, I doubt it. I wish I knew this was available if its all its cracked up to be.
Lets see some pics!
Re: Westeds New 'Hero' Jacket (pics on the way)
Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 9:26 am
by Raider S
Yes, this is the copy jacket. Even a shrunken lamb option, too. I doubt there will be any surprise about this.
Re: Westeds New 'Hero' Jacket (pics on the way)
Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 9:28 am
by agent5
Shouldn't be a shock to anyone here.
I dunno. I'm pretty shocked.
I doubt there will be any surprise about this.
I'm also pretty surprised.
Lets see some pics, ROTLA!
Re: Westeds New 'Hero' Jacket (pics on the way)
Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 9:29 am
by Dutch_jones
Raider S wrote:Yes, this is the copy jacket. Even a shrunken lamb option, too. I doubt there will be any surprise about this.
Who says its a copy? Right now the only TN copy out there is the Todds jacket.
Re: Westeds New 'Hero' Jacket (pics on the way)
Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 9:41 am
by Raider S
Dutch_jones wrote:
Who says its a copy? Right now the only TN copy out there is the Todds jacket.
Dutch, nobody mentioned TN before you did. Do you know something we don't?
Re: Westeds New 'Hero' Jacket (pics on the way)
Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 9:46 am
by Dutch_jones
Raider S wrote:Dutch_jones wrote:
Who says its a copy? Right now the only TN copy out there is the Todds jacket.
Dutch, nobody mentioned TN before you did. Do you know something we don't?
NOPE but you made it very clear in your posts that it was a TN COPY
Raider S wrote:Yes, this is the copy jacket. Even a shrunken lamb option, too. I doubt there will be any surprise about this.
Re: Westeds New 'Hero' Jacket (pics on the way)
Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 9:49 am
by agent5
WHAT! Peter has a new jacket coming out with new patterns and a new shrunken lamb leather!
I....don't....think...I can....handle....this...
Re: Westeds New 'Hero' Jacket (pics on the way)
Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 9:51 am
by Raider S
OK, I thought it was a copy of an original Raider's jacket because those were made of shrunken lamb.
I guess this will finally put that issue to rest and people can agree the originals were in fact made of a shrunken hide!
Re: Westeds New 'Hero' Jacket (pics on the way)
Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 9:52 am
by Dutch_jones
Raider S wrote:OK, I thought it was a copy of an original Raider's jacket because those were made of shrunken lamb.
I guess this will finally put that issue to rest and people can agree the originals were in fact made of a shrunken hide!
LOL Sorry that was too funny !
Re: Westeds New 'Hero' Jacket (pics on the way)
Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 9:52 am
by Raider S
...which means Tony Nowak did in fact copy an actual hero jacket!
Re: Westeds New 'Hero' Jacket (pics on the way)
Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 9:53 am
by agent5
OK, I thought it was a copy of an original Raider's jacket because those were made of shrunken lamb.
And when or where did you read here that Peter got ahold of an original jacket? If you thought his new offering was copied from an original, what then gave you that idea?
Re: Westeds New 'Hero' Jacket (pics on the way)
Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 9:55 am
by DeWayne
I hope we can at least see the pics before this gets ugly, uglier, and locked.
Re: Westeds New 'Hero' Jacket (pics on the way)
Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 9:55 am
by Dutch_jones
agent5 wrote:OK, I thought it was a copy of an original Raider's jacket because those were made of shrunken lamb.
And when or where did you read here that Peter got ahold of an original jacket? If you thought his new offering was copied from an original, what then gave you that idea?
he's just goofing around
Re: Westeds New 'Hero' Jacket (pics on the way)
Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 9:57 am
by Raider S
Dutch_jones wrote:
LOL Sorry that was too funny !
At least you can see the humor, too!
Where else could there be such drama over a 30 year old jacket?
Re: Westeds New 'Hero' Jacket (pics on the way)
Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 10:00 am
by Dutch_jones
Raider S wrote:Dutch_jones wrote:
LOL Sorry that was too funny !
At least you can see the humor, too!
Where else could there be such drama over a 30 year old jacket?
Star Wars Forum?
Re: Westeds New 'Hero' Jacket (pics on the way)
Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 10:01 am
by agent5
I'm not goofing around and I'm nowhere near upset or anything, just asking a question.
If people start anticipating things getting "ugly" then some will simply see things that way and they most likely will. I am not. We still can have discussions around here, right? I'm not getting the anticipation of things getting out of control. Half the time they aren't anyways but that's just how "some" people preceive it. Just...PLEASE don't jump the gun and assume we're all fighting instead of having a conversation or simple debate. One can always move to another thread if one feels it's not sweet enough for you.
It's Friday and a 3 day weekend. There is very little that can upset me right now.
Many smiles.
Star Wars Forum?
Good one, Dutch. I do hear tho that we're an even pickier bunch, if you can believe it. Not sure I can but thats what I heard.
Re: Westeds New 'Hero' Jacket (pics on the way)
Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 10:15 am
by TheExit148
It's Friday and a 3 day weekend. There is very little that can upset me right now.
Gotta love the 3 day weekends 5. We just had one last week, and it was excellent! Enjoy it!
This new jacket news is a nice surprise on a Friday, looking forward to seeing it.
I do hear tho that we're an even pickier bunch, if you can believe it. Not sure I can but thats what I heard.
I'm not goofing around and I'm nowhere near upset or anything, just asking a question.
I can believe that, considering how many jackets, shirts, whips etc. people go through to get the right one for them.
Re: Westeds New 'Hero' Jacket (pics on the way)
Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 10:20 am
by jacksdad
I'm curious to see what this looks like
Re: Westeds New 'Hero' Jacket (pics on the way)
Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 10:29 am
by binkmeisterRick
Would've been a novel idea to have the pictures in hand
before posting, huh?
Re: Westeds New 'Hero' Jacket (pics on the way)
Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 10:33 am
by TheExit148
binkmeisterRick wrote:Would've been a novel idea to have the pictures in hand
before posting, huh?
Can't argue with that
Re: Westeds New 'Hero' Jacket (pics on the way)
Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 10:46 am
by PSBIndy
Well, given the recent track history of Wested.....there will most likely be
something that gets messed up, right?
Re: Westeds New 'Hero' Jacket (pics on the way)
Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 11:04 am
by Zendragon
I am looking forward to pics!
And for those who either think they are being funny or just doing the things that they complain others have done in other threads.... it might be wise to set a new standard by not acting this way.
It would be nice to have threads without little cut downs... on both sides of the field. They are JUST jackets....
Re: Westeds New 'Hero' Jacket (pics on the way)
Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 11:25 am
by coronado3
They are JUST jackets....
That is the most sane thing I have read in the jacket forum for a while! I mean, who really cares who makes it as long as YOU like it and it fits your frame.
Photobucket is quite easy....
1st. set up an account
2nd. download pics to that account from "my photos" on your computer (I recommend sizing them to 480 X 640 in your picture gallery before you put them on photobucket if you have dial up- it is faster)
3rd. run your curser over your newly dowloaded pic and you'll see the link codes pop up - select the bottom one (it copies automatically)
4th. post the link into your wested thread!!
Now lets see those pics!
Re: Westeds New 'Hero' Jacket (pics on the way)
Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 11:57 am
by binkmeisterRick
Zendragon wrote:I am looking forward to pics!
And for those who either think they are being funny or just doing the things that they complain others have done in other threads.... it might be wise to set a new standard by not acting this way.
It would be nice to have threads without little cut downs... on both sides of the field. They are JUST jackets....
Wise words from a Zendragon.
Re: Westeds New 'Hero' Jacket (pics on the way)
Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 12:06 pm
by maboot38
Someone with free time should write a nice step by step tutorial for posting photos using photobucket, sticky it, and then it can be referenced in any ;0 thread for the technically challenged.
Re: Westeds New 'Hero' Jacket (pics on the way)
Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 12:08 pm
by ReturningSon
Jeez, everyone needs to calm down.
Ok. Sorry, had to post that after reading the thread. I am anxious about Wested's new offering.
Re: Westeds New 'Hero' Jacket (pics on the way)
Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 12:28 pm
by crismans
Dutch_jones wrote:Raider S wrote:Yes, this is the copy jacket. Even a shrunken lamb option, too. I doubt there will be any surprise about this.
Who says its a copy? Right now the only TN copy out there is the Todds jacket.
Did I miss something along the way? I thought Todd's jacket is based on his own research of the jacket and comparing notes with _ on the jacket _ had studied (which also found their way in the creation of the Expedition).
Re: Westeds New 'Hero' Jacket (pics on the way)
Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 12:36 pm
by Dutch_jones
crismans wrote:Dutch_jones wrote:Raider S wrote:Yes, this is the copy jacket. Even a shrunken lamb option, too. I doubt there will be any surprise about this.
Who says its a copy? Right now the only TN copy out there is the Todds jacket.
Did I miss something along the way? I thought Todd's jacket is based on his own research of the jacket and comparing notes with _ on the jacket _ had studied (which also found their way in the creation of the Expedition).
Yes I missed something too ! but todd really updated his pattern I saw tis picture yesterday in another thread:
It looks like it was updated to match a nowak.
Re: Westeds New 'Hero' Jacket (pics on the way)
Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 12:38 pm
by moses
The pattern is copied from TN - from Chris King's Nowak to be precise. Peter told me so himself a couple of months ago that he'd made a lambskin copy of Chris' jacket and that he was sourcing a new hide for his "hero" jacket.
Re: Westeds New 'Hero' Jacket (pics on the way)
Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 2:02 pm
by Puppetboy
Yes I missed something too ! but todd really updated his pattern I saw tis picture yesterday in another thread:
To set the record straight, I do own a Nowak jacket (I'm wearing it right now) and I did study it. I made a few tweaks to my pattern. But my jacket pattern is not a literal copy of Tony's. I realize that the jacket Tony made was patterned from only one of the film jackets, and was not identical to the others. Truthfully, I don't think the original Tony copied was cut that well. I don't want to copy it 100%. Tony was meticulous in replicating the good with the bad (Thanks, Tony!) I took two or three details from it and retained 95% of my old pattern, as I felt it better represented the other film jackets that got more screen time. There were many areas where my pattern already matched Tony's as well. They were far more similar than different.
It's still my own pattern - just a few small tweaks, that's all. As a matter of fact, I have made tweaks everytime I have a new batch run. In addition, my manufacturer continues to find better and better leather.
Re: Westeds New 'Hero' Jacket (pics on the way)
Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 2:08 pm
by PSBIndy
Hey Todd, when are you going to offer the Standard in goat?.....I think that would be awesome.
Re: Westeds New 'Hero' Jacket (pics on the way)
Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 2:44 pm
by Indiana G
todd, great to see you set the record straight sir. and it's good to see that you're offering still retains some of the hard work you put into it as i know you burnt the midnight oil to come up with your offering. kudos to you and it's good to have variety here.....
now lets see some pics of this nowak...er...i mean wested.....
Re: Westeds New 'Hero' Jacket (pics on the way)
Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 2:52 pm
by Hatch
No ,G you're not actually saying they would........oh nevermind...