Bag, strap and buckle...who's got the most authentic/SA...

Texan Scott · Post by **Texan Scott** » Thu Apr 16, 2009 7:17 pm

Ok, gents, let the games begin! Who sells the most SA bags, straps & buckles, based on your experiences? Please include details about how to fasten/configure the buckle.

Having been on a dig, you get a real appreciation for the reason why the bag, strap and buckle is a part of the IJ costume. It is very practical, functional, and looks alot better being carried around than a backpack or a duffle bag.

What are some practical items/equipment IJ would store in his bag, and what what else would he use it for? Occasionally to store his jacket?

I found it to be very practical with finding pieces of pottery. There is lots you can do with this manly purse...including hanging by it from a tank! Never know when that stap o' leather could save your life? ha!

So who is in the hunt? WPG, Todd's, Magnoli and who else?

It would be nice if we could get some good comparison photos with the bag, strap and buckle with different vendors. Thanks.

binkmeisterRick · Post by **binkmeisterRick** » Thu Apr 16, 2009 7:24 pm

Wow, I think this is the first time I've seen a post ask readily found answers in the search function with a single thread!

Texan Scott · Post by **Texan Scott** » Thu Apr 16, 2009 8:45 pm

..all in one thread?

theinterchange · Post by **theinterchange** » Thu Apr 16, 2009 10:24 pm

Randy

Ranger36 · Post by **Ranger36** » Thu Apr 16, 2009 10:31 pm

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TheExit148 · Post by **TheExit148** » Thu Apr 16, 2009 11:45 pm

I've got 3 unissued MK VII bags (most SA you can usually get), a Todds Raiders strap with AB buckle, and a Wade LC/ToD strap with ToD/LC buckle (with a Wade Raiders Tan strap on the way). They are all great! Took a bag out today with the Todd's strap on a hike, and it held up perfect! And this wasn't a normal hike... it was climbing up rock faces, through the dirt and dust, and no issues at all. Kept my lighter, Todd's knife, WL gloves, water bottle, and camera all safe. Wade definitely takes the cake for the straps and buckles, especially since he's getting in a SA Raiders buckle shortly. All my bags came from a vendor in the UK, and unfortunately he's run dry, or I'd have a few more with different shades and makes. I'll try and post some pics if I can.

clark.j.kent · Post by **clark.j.kent** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 1:15 am

I have a Magnoli bag dyed OD, and a strap and buckle from eBay. Works for me. Strap could be a little longer, but it will do for now.

VP · Post by VP » Fri Apr 17, 2009 9:04 am

I have a 1941 H & Sons MkVII from Endicotts with a Magnoli strap and an AB buckle. Can't imagine anything better ATM.

Texan Scott · Post by **Texan Scott** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 11:50 am

TheExit148 wrote:I've got 3 unissued MK VII bags (most SA you can usually get), a Todds Raiders strap with AB buckle, and a Wade LC/ToD strap with ToD/LC buckle (with a Wade Raiders Tan strap on the way). I'll try and post some pics if I can.

Some photos for comparison would be great!

Texan Scott · Post by **Texan Scott** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 12:52 pm

Helpful strap attachment tips, with Wade...

Attaching An Indy Bag Strap ~ Video:

http://web.mac.com/wadeegan/Wadeventure/Media.html

Good job on this instructional clip.

TheExit148 · Post by **TheExit148** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 12:56 pm

Texan Scott wrote:
TheExit148 wrote:I've got 3 unissued MK VII bags (most SA you can usually get), a Todds Raiders strap with AB buckle, and a Wade LC/ToD strap with ToD/LC buckle (with a Wade Raiders Tan strap on the way). I'll try and post some pics if I can.
Some photos for comparison would be great!

I'll take some pics when I get the new Wade Raiders strap, should be about a few more days hopefully, and then I'll post some pics up for you. That cool?

Texan Scott · Post by **Texan Scott** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 1:01 pm

Great!

RCSignals · Post by **RCSignals** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 6:41 pm

binkmeisterRick wrote:Wow, I think this is the first time I've seen a post ask readily found answers in the search function with a single thread!

True, but having used the search function myself on this, and using variations of the search words, I can understand him starting this thread.

RCSignals · Post by **RCSignals** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 8:13 pm

I never find too much said about Todd's bag. I assume it's his own sourced bag, not a resell of someone else's.
I have one, the detail is good, it's a very nice reproduction of an original. I have read about them being smaller than an original, but what I have is not.
Does anyone know what the reproduction bags used in KOTC were?

Texan Scott · Post by **Texan Scott** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 8:28 pm

Thanks RC. My intention was to make this a catch all thread, where we could have side by side comparisons of the bags, straps and buckles, then each member could decide what he/she wanted from the photos and info. posted. Post what you have, and I'll try to present them in a workable format.

Texan Scott · Post by **Texan Scott** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 9:59 pm

Here are some links to some suppliers. Your input is needed if I have missed anyone.

Todd's bag:
http://www.toddscostumes.com/indy/indiana_jones_bag.htm
Todd's strap & buckle:
http://www.toddscostumes.com/indy/leath ... _strap.htm

Magnoli Clothiers:
http://magnolic.ipower.com/catalog/inde ... 514f718693

What Price Glory:
http://www.whatpriceglory.com/mkviibag.html

WadeEganGear:
Bag: http://web.mac.com/wadeegan/Wadeventure/Bags.html
Straps & buckles: http://web.mac.com/wadeegan/Wadeventure/Bag_Straps.html

theinterchange · Post by **theinterchange** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 10:54 pm

RCSignals wrote:
binkmeisterRick wrote:Wow, I think this is the first time I've seen a post ask readily found answers in the search function with a single thread!
True, but having used the search function myself on this, and using variations of the search words, I can understand him starting this thread.

Indeed.

Randy

RCSignals · Post by **RCSignals** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 11:37 pm

The photo up on Todd's site looks like his older offering.

It shows smooth snaps and silver-ish strap rings.

Is Wade's bag his own, or a Magnoli bag?

The WPG bag looks to have smooth snaps, silver-sh strap rings, and states it doesn't have all the dividers.

Texan Scott · Post by **Texan Scott** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 11:50 pm

Comparison photos of MKVI and MKVII bags:

Original, unissued bags available from websites in the UK:
http://www.lost-ark.net/index_red.html
Soldier of Fortune: http://www.sofmilitary.co.uk/reenactors/

http://members.tripod.com/indy_werner/id5.htm

Texan Scott · Post by **Texan Scott** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 11:54 pm

RCSignals wrote: The WPG bag looks to have smooth snaps, silver-sh strap rings, and states it doesn't have all the dividers.

The gold colored snaps on the WPG bag are not smooth. You are correct with the other two points.

TheExit148 · Post by **TheExit148** » Sat Apr 18, 2009 12:33 am

Is Wade's bag his own, or a Magnoli bag?

I'm pretty sure that Wade's are Magnoli's, but sometimes I think he gets original MK VII's in that he sells too.

Wade Egan · Post by **Wade Egan** » Mon Apr 20, 2009 5:37 pm

Correct.

W.E.

Texan Scott · Post by **Texan Scott** » Mon Apr 20, 2009 9:40 pm

It's my understanding that Todd's new bag is different, larger, etc. than the one pictured on his website. Does anyone have photos of the new Todd's bag, strap, etc.

RCSignals · Post by **RCSignals** » Mon Apr 20, 2009 10:27 pm

This should be it

http://www.auctiva.com/hostedimages/sho ... 0&format=0

Texan Scott · Post by **Texan Scott** » Mon Apr 20, 2009 11:41 pm

Todd offers a good bang for the buck.

PyramidBlaster · Post by **PyramidBlaster** » Sun Apr 26, 2009 6:13 pm

I just ordered one of Todd's bags and an XL strap...I have a treasured mint original Mk VII and strap, but wanted something I could wear daily...Thus the Todd's.

It should arrive wednesday. I'll post a review and pix then.

Texan Scott · Post by **Texan Scott** » Sun Apr 26, 2009 6:20 pm

That's great. I just ordered one also! Let's compare and contrast our manly bags when they arrive!

PyramidBlaster · Post by **PyramidBlaster** » Sun Apr 26, 2009 6:33 pm

Y'know, it's odd. Ever since Raiders in '81, I've had a predilection for the lowly shoulder bag. I've had a great many over the years---Big and small. I didn't get a Mk VII until last year when it came time to overhaul my gear at long last.

And let me tell you---There's just something about that bag that's just spot-on. The size, the pocket arrangement, just everything---Now I've found that when I wear another bag (which I frequently do when I travel, as part of my job), it's just not right. Thus the Repro Mk VII. I just can't stand it anymore. Totally Jaded now.

PyramidBlaster · Post by **PyramidBlaster** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 10:10 pm

Just posted my in-depth review of the Todd's bag with XL strap here:

viewtopic.php?f=16&t=40288

raider 57 · Post by **raider 57** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 10:19 pm

This my "Repro" WPG Bag. It has the dividers!
http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x36/ ... C00977.jpg

That's todd's strap BTW/
~raider 57

Texan Scott · Post by **Texan Scott** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 10:46 pm

..that's what I thought....got a good beat and you can dance to it. I like the strap as it looks substantially thick.

Texan Scott · Post by **Texan Scott** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 10:58 pm

Great pics, guys!

TheExit148 · Post by **TheExit148** » Wed May 06, 2009 11:09 am

Should have Wade's Raiders strap here shortly, next week hopefully if the mail isn't slow

I'll get some pics posted of everything I have; bags, straps and buckles wise. Hopefully it does justice.

Texan Scott · Post by **Texan Scott** » Wed May 06, 2009 2:44 pm

...just received Todd's bag and strap. Really like the thickness of the strap. Ok, I'll play the set-up man...whats the string for...to attach the headpiece like a pocket watch...

Hollowpond · Post by **Hollowpond** » Wed May 06, 2009 5:59 pm

Texan Scott wrote:...just received Todd's bag and strap. Really like the thickness of the strap. Ok, I'll play the set-up man...whats the string for...to attach the headpiece like a pocket watch...

I had that same question not too long ago. Apparently, the MK VII was worn around the neck and hung in front of you. The string was tied to one end and went around your back and was attatched to the disk on the other side to prevent the bag from swinging around as you moved about.

Texan Scott · Post by **Texan Scott** » Wed May 06, 2009 6:08 pm

I'm glad Indy didn't wear it that way, aren't you?

Hollowpond · Post by **Hollowpond** » Wed May 06, 2009 7:31 pm

Tundrarider wrote:
Hollowpond wrote:
Texan Scott wrote:...just received Todd's bag and strap. Really like the thickness of the strap. Ok, I'll play the set-up man...whats the string for...to attach the headpiece like a pocket watch...
I had that same question not too long ago. Apparently, the MK VII was worn around the neck and hung in front of you. The string was tied to one end and went around your back and was attatched to the disk on the other side to prevent the bag from swinging around as you moved about.
Hollowpond,

Dude, I'm impressed! Where did you find THAT nugget of knowledge?!

Michael

Thank Bink! I posted a thread not too long ago asking what the metal disc was for on the side of the bag. Bink answered swiftly. See here to see pics of it worn in front
viewtopic.php?t=37620

lantzn · Post by **lantzn** » Fri May 08, 2009 3:17 pm

Texan Scott wrote:Helpful strap attachment tips, with Wade...

Attaching An Indy Bag Strap ~ Video:

http://web.mac.com/wadeegan/Wadeventure/Media.html

Good job on this instructional clip.

I'm still waiting for the video on how to tie an Indy boot.

Wade Egan · Post by **Wade Egan** » Fri May 08, 2009 10:36 pm

Please see my other thread:

http://indygear.com/cow/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=40459

RCSignals · Post by **RCSignals** » Sat May 09, 2009 1:59 am

Texan Scott wrote:...just received Todd's bag and strap. Really like the thickness of the strap. Ok, I'll play the set-up man...whats the string for...to attach the headpiece like a pocket watch...

Are you talking about the string in the little pouch on the inside of the bag?

Texan Scott · Post by **Texan Scott** » Sat May 09, 2009 1:28 pm

RC, if you have a take on this, let's hear all about the string.

RCSignals · Post by **RCSignals** » Sat May 09, 2009 4:25 pm

I think the string in the small pouch is to attach a small can that contained a anti-fog cloth for the gas mask lens. The can had two halves that screwed together. I think photos of it have been posted here before.

the longer string that is in the outside pouch of original bags is used as described previously.

Texan Scott · Post by **Texan Scott** » Sat May 09, 2009 11:50 pm

I know that this topic has been 'cussed' and discussed many times in the past, but what is your take on the leather strap as to grooves or no grooves on the sides of the strap? In Raiders, referring to the Belloq and Indy scene outside the temple with the Hovitos, the camera does somewhat of a close-up, as Indy hands the idol to Belloq. There does not appear to be grooves on the sides of the strap. If you have a favorite scene in which the grooves are more pronounced, could you please post it?

RCSignals · Post by **RCSignals** » Sun May 10, 2009 12:01 am

It might just be focus but the grooves aren't too pronounced in that photo.

Is that a number written on the strap just below the collar?

TheExit148 · Post by **TheExit148** » Tue May 12, 2009 12:26 am

Well... Wade's new Raiders strap came today, and its pretty awesome. As promised, here are some pics of the straps I have (2 Wade, 1 Todd) and 2 of my 3 MK VII Originals. The buckles on the Todds and Wades Raider are both AB buckles. The other is Wades LC/KOTCS roller buckle. (Sorry for the delay, was REALLY busy after work, and had to take these pics late in my room)

Straps With Flash:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3382/352 ... 90.jpg?v=0

Straps Without Flash:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3357/352 ... 67.jpg?v=0

Bags: (one is lighter then the other)
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3593/352 ... 79.jpg?v=0

Wade's Raiders strap is crazy (in a good way), with the faint grooving here and there, plus the dark spots of colour in places on the strap (can't see them in the pics or other pics I tried to take). It looks the part to me, although the strap does look a little wrinkled but it just needs to be broken in I think. (Not sure if the Raiders strap was super smooth, or if it did have winkles in it like old leather.)
The Todds strap I have is one of the "2nds" from the clearance. Nothing wrong with this strap except at the buckle attachment area its scraped and the strap is uneven, but you can't see it at all, so it doesn't matter. This strap has been faithful to me on a few adventures so far (hikes mostly) and holds up very nicely. If your looking for a cheap, great looking strap go for the 2nds at Todds, no issues there.
Wade's other strap, the darker one is a very nice KOTCS/LC without the aging yet. I rubbed lots of water to get off an excess dye, and it brought up some lighter areas nicely, and a few wrinkles here and there. Again, built strong, and looks great!
These pics don't really do Wade's straps justice. You have to see them to appreciate them. He does excellent work, and they are very SA IMO. A no brainer to me if you want the best straps out there plus with his new Raiders slider, you can't go wrong, its an easy decision. Very nice work Wade.

If anyone would like some more/better pics please let me know, and I'll do my best.

Texan Scott · Post by **Texan Scott** » Wed May 13, 2009 1:12 pm

Good pics. Is the bag on the left a WPG and the one on the right a Todd's? I was a little confused about what was original from the post, thanks.

TheExit148 · Post by **TheExit148** » Wed May 13, 2009 1:17 pm

Thanks Texan. Both bags are orignal 1942 MK VII's. I actually got them from a World War II vendor in the UK. I ordered all 3 of mine from him. Unfortunatly he is out, and has no more

or I would order some more. The only problem with them is they STINK like an old cottage

Its a pain getting the smell out. They've always been in top notch condition, with only one bag having some slight rust on the snaps (came out with CLR) and another had some dirt or rust on the disk (again came out with CLR). If you want his site I can PM you it.

Texan Scott · Post by **Texan Scott** » Wed May 13, 2009 6:11 pm

that would be nice. Have you tried baking soda? Maybe if you put them in an enclosed space with no ventilation for awhile with the soda? no doubt the humidity in GB had a lasting effect.

IndianaChris711 · Post by **IndianaChris711** » Wed May 13, 2009 6:49 pm

TheExit148 wrote:Thanks Texan. Both bags are orignal 1942 MK VII's. I actually got them from a World War II vendor in the UK. I ordered all 3 of mine from him. Unfortunatly he is out, and has no more or I would order some more. The only problem with them is they STINK like an old cottage Its a pain getting the smell out. They've always been in top notch condition, with only one bag having some slight rust on the snaps (came out with CLR) and another had some dirt or rust on the disk (again came out with CLR). If you want his site I can PM you it.

Nice bag straps and bags Exit, I definately am now convinced that Wade does the probably most SA strap I have ever seen. That distressed one looks absolutely amazing. As far as getting that nasty smell out of the MK VII's, you can try a variety of ways, a lot of people say washing the bag works great, I used febreeze on mine and left it outside for a while, like days on end. Put it out in the sun. I think washing it is probably what I should have done. Nice bags and straps again, thanks for sharing.

IndianaChris

whipwarrior · Post by **whipwarrior** » Wed May 13, 2009 11:32 pm

I finally got my Wade Temple of Doom/CS strap today. I had to bend the buckle in a vise to achieve the proper screen-accurate shape, but it is a work of art. Wade really is the best!