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Wested ToD nylon lining problems ANYONE else???

Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 6:23 pm
by HWaltonJonesJr.Phd
Hellow COW,

I have had my ToD in the closet because the lining comes out of the back and the sides more and more. The (glued) hem in the back has come open and nylon hangs 2+ inches past the bottom of the jacket.

I don't want to send it back just because Wested is like the Bermuda Triangle of Jackets and Correspondence.

It is a DB lamb. Is anyone else having problems?

HWJJrPhd

Re: Wested ToD nylon lining problems ANYONE else???

Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 6:25 pm
by Holt
:lol:


hahaha.. I knew this was gonna happen.


sorry man, dont mean to be an arse here. but I knew this problem was gonna happen. it happend to my LC jacket.

let a tailor fix this. he probably will ad a hem stitch.

Re: Wested ToD nylon lining problems ANYONE else???

Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 6:28 pm
by HWaltonJonesJr.Phd
well I'm glad someone's happy

Re: Wested ToD nylon lining problems ANYONE else???

Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 6:32 pm
by Holt
no Im not happy. im laughing because I have said to people that the glued hem will slip of and the nylon will give.

thats why I laughed. Im not laughing at you or the bad luck you had with your jacket.

it happend to mine to...

but if you took harm by it in any way then im sorry....

Re: Wested ToD nylon lining problems ANYONE else???

Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 6:43 pm
by HWaltonJonesJr.Phd
I am emotionally unharmed Holt. I think.

I remember the warnings about the glued hem...

It seemed worth the gamble for the prongs and the original hardware...

I got only the glued hem, which failed. The leather is a spongy, paper-thin maroon.

The nylon causes it to slip off my shoulders when unzipped.

I sweated the specs on this jacket for months. Arrrrrrgh.


HWJJrPhd

Re: Wested ToD nylon lining problems ANYONE else???

Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 7:18 pm
by RCSignals
None of the glued hem has come apart on mine. The lining does bag mostly at the side with the pocket (there is no interfacing in the jacket to help prevent this) and the lining seams in places have started to separate. It is just straight stitched together and the light nylon lining pulls through the stitching fraying the edge. There is no sewn binding of the edge of the seams of the lining to help prevent this.
If you wear this jacket it's going to happen.

Re: Wested ToD nylon lining problems ANYONE else???

Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 8:17 pm
by Heyjude7
my sleeve elbow lining ripped and the inside pocket bulges out the jacket past the zipper when my jacket is open..annoyin

Re: Wested ToD nylon lining problems ANYONE else???

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 3:06 am
by CM
Send it to TN to copy and get right... ;)

Re: Wested ToD nylon lining problems ANYONE else???

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 3:11 am
by Yojimbo Jones
Didn't see THAT one coming! :roll: \:D/

Hmm, if someone gave him a 1:1 copy...

Imagine the distressing he could do...

No, no, I'm not buying another one!!!

Re: Wested ToD nylon lining problems ANYONE else???

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 5:01 am
by RCSignals
CM wrote:Send it to TN to copy and get right... ;)
OK Everyone. Stop doing that. ;)

Re: Wested ToD nylon lining problems ANYONE else???

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 8:33 pm
by crismans
I hadn't had any problems with mine yet. But I did keep a cell phone in it the first time (of 2 or 3) that I wore it and I thought it bagged the lining out some. I quit putting the cell phone there for fear of stretching the lining.

Re: Wested ToD nylon lining problems ANYONE else???

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 9:26 pm
by barry
crismans wrote:I hadn't had any problems with mine yet. But I did keep a cell phone in it the first time (of 2 or 3) that I wore it and I thought it bagged the lining out some. I quit putting the cell phone there for fear of stretching the lining.
my wested jacket lining is tearing out in places after one week of owning it the worst is at the inside pocket

Re: Wested ToD nylon lining problems ANYONE else???

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 12:57 am
by MACHONE
Heyjude7 wrote:my sleeve elbow lining ripped
My Sleeves both ripped after owning it for one week, and only wearing it a couple of times. I love the leather and the jacket, but I was quite upset about this lining.

I really do not like the the nylon - I am wishing I had tried harder to get Wested to use cotton. I have never had the problem with one of Peter's cotton lined jackets. I know this lining will eventually have to come out and be replaced by a tailor. I really do not want to send it back to Peter. More so than the stitching coming out, you can see the nylon seperating in the stitch holes. The nylon material in my Todd's standard jacket is so much better than this. I have worn that jacket very often with no problems. The good news is my other two Wested's are fine.

I am pretty sure Peter is going to have to make some kind of change to the construction.

-Ben

Re: Wested ToD nylon lining problems ANYONE else???

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 2:31 am
by Holt
yep. I totally agree.

I hate wearing nylon and if I was to order one soon I would demand cotton lining. no matter how un-authentic it is. I want to have the jacket more then one year. I mean it is my choice as the buyer right? there is no use arguing with the costumer if the costumer wants something else.

Re: Wested ToD nylon lining problems ANYONE else???

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 9:54 am
by Hatch
If you guys think you don't like nylon now just wait till the weather heats up.........remember the fit HF had about the HOT nylon in the original jackets..... :roll:

Re: Wested ToD nylon lining problems ANYONE else???

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 10:10 am
by Dutch_jones
Indiana Holt wrote:yep. I totally agree.

I hate wearing nylon and if I was to order one soon I would demand cotton lining. no matter how un-authentic it is. I want to have the jacket more then one year. I mean it is my choice as the buyer right? there is no use arguing with the costumer if the costumer wants something else.
wait didn't you order a tod way back in januari? I remember your post about it.

Re: Wested ToD nylon lining problems ANYONE else???

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 10:11 am
by Holt
no I didnt becasue I heard a rumor that peter wasnt gonna change things on it......

Re: Wested ToD nylon lining problems ANYONE else???

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 12:32 pm
by Han Jones
Now I am really glad I canceled my order with them and had Tony make my ToD. I know it won't fall apart on me. Even after all this plus the other problems they have people still buy those jackets. :-k

Re: Wested ToD nylon lining problems ANYONE else???

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 12:52 pm
by orb
I believe even HF didn't like the TOD jacket. Then why should we?
I think it's quite funny that Wested also copied all the mistakes of that jacket.
But in someway I like my washed goat TOD. It was just too expensive for this quality...

Regards

orb

Re: Wested ToD nylon lining problems ANYONE else???

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 1:08 pm
by St. Dumas
We only heard that Ford didn't like the nylon lining. No reason to believe he had any opinion about the design at all.

(Don't forget, Ford also liked the "Hollywood Homicide" script.)

SD

Re: Wested ToD nylon lining problems ANYONE else???

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 2:47 pm
by RCSignals
Indiana Holt wrote:no I didnt becasue I heard a rumor that peter wasnt gonna change things on it......
Peter posted he wouldn't change anything (even though the first jackets had wrong vents and collar stand) The lining is apparently the closest duplication of what the jacket had and is different from Wested's usual nylon lining. I would hope the usual lining is more substantial.

Re: Wested ToD nylon lining problems ANYONE else???

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 2:49 pm
by RCSignals
St. Dumas wrote:We only heard that Ford didn't like the nylon lining. No reason to believe he had any opinion about the design at all.

(Don't forget, Ford also liked the "Hollywood Homicide" script.)

SD
_ posted that in his meeting with HF it was said he wore the nylon anyway because the smaller cotton replacement was garbage and pinched.

Re: Wested ToD nylon lining problems ANYONE else???

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 3:01 pm
by Holt
RCSignals wrote:
Indiana Holt wrote:no I didnt becasue I heard a rumor that peter wasnt gonna change things on it......
Peter posted he wouldn't change anything (even though the first jackets had wrong vents and collar stand) The lining is apparently the closest duplication of what the jacket had and is different from Wested's usual nylon lining. I would hope the usual lining is more substantial.
yes I know.. he wont change anything.

to bad. Not my loss....

Re: Wested ToD nylon lining problems ANYONE else???

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 3:12 pm
by Heyjude7
i cant even give away my Wested ToD size 42.. a common size!

Re: Wested ToD nylon lining problems ANYONE else???

Posted: Sat May 02, 2009 10:58 pm
by HWaltonJonesJr.Phd
Han Jones wrote:Even after all this plus the other problems they have people still buy those jackets. :-k
My Wested Raiders in DB lamb is a work of art. It looks and fits like a dream... the leather, the lining, the construction... nirvana.

IMO, that's why you roll the dice with Wested.

H

Re: Wested ToD nylon lining problems ANYONE else???

Posted: Mon May 04, 2009 2:46 pm
by Michaelson
Heyjude7 wrote:i cant even give away my Wested ToD size 42.. a common size!
Well, Jude, if you're just GIVING it away, I'll send you a mailing address. ;)

Regards! Michaelson

Re: Wested ToD nylon lining problems ANYONE else???

Posted: Mon May 04, 2009 3:11 pm
by Heyjude7
:P i wanna get back at least 150..ya know what i mean

Re: Wested ToD nylon lining problems ANYONE else???

Posted: Mon May 04, 2009 3:18 pm
by PSBIndy
I have a 5 inch tear in my lining near the right armhole and I've hardly worn it. Bummer. :(

Re: Wested ToD nylon lining problems ANYONE else???

Posted: Mon May 04, 2009 4:05 pm
by Michaelson
Heyjude7 wrote::P i wanna get back at least 150..ya know what i mean
Apparently your idea of 'giving away' and mine are completely different definitions! :lol:

Regards! Michaelson

Re: Wested ToD nylon lining problems ANYONE else???

Posted: Mon May 04, 2009 5:21 pm
by crismans
I would buy another one of these (just to have an example of the jacket from the movie) if Peter would just put a cotton/satin lining in it like he offers for his other jackets. But I'm assuming, based on what I've read, that that is an impossibility right? I don't understand that stance. Changing the overall pattern or tweeking it for customers? I can certainly see not doing that as he's been down that road before with mixed results. But why not the lining? I don't want to buy something that would require a tailor in a matter of weeks.

Re: Wested ToD nylon lining problems ANYONE else???

Posted: Mon May 04, 2009 7:00 pm
by Browncoat
I haven't had any problems with my lining and I've worn my ToD quite a bit during the winter. However, the black paint is chipping off the sliders on the side tabs exposing the silver underneath. No biggie.

Re: Wested ToD nylon lining problems ANYONE else???

Posted: Mon May 04, 2009 7:02 pm
by RCSignals
Browncoat wrote:I haven't had any problems with my lining and I've worn my ToD quite a bit during the winter. However, the black paint is chipping off the sliders on the side tabs exposing the silver underneath. No biggie.
Take a look at the lining inside the sleeves.

Re: Wested ToD nylon lining problems ANYONE else???

Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 8:40 am
by Browncoat
Nope, still good as new. No wear at all. However, there is some SLOPPY stitchwork on my the lining of the right sleeve that I never notice until I turned them inside out. #-o