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Which way does it go?

Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 10:27 am
by Raider Of The Lost Ark
The straps through the tri glides, should they go forward or backward? I've been looking at the pictures of TN and Westeds and they seem to go in oposite directions. Whilst itay be a choice thing, which way round SHOULD they go. Thanks!

Raider

Re: Which way does it go?

Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 10:37 am
by Piers
depends on the movie.. raiders and temple point back, LC and CS point forward..

or do you mean how they fit through the glides? maybe this old post could help?
http://indygear.com/cow/viewtopic.php?f ... +direction

Re: Which way does it go?

Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 11:29 am
by Raider Of The Lost Ark
Sorry I meant which way does the pointed part of the strap face after going through the metalwork, gorwsrds or backwards. Thanks :)

Re: Which way does it go?

Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 12:42 pm
by Raider Of The Lost Ark
My Raiders has the strap on the front and triglids on the back. When I put the leather strap through it ends up with the strap pointing 'forwards'. Should I send it back or is there a way of putting the straps through correctly that I haven't worked out this far? Please let me know. Thanks

Raider

Re: Which way does it go?

Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 12:50 pm
by Raider Of The Lost Ark
I MAY have spotted the problem. The metal is held on with a leather loop. There are 2 separate metal rectangles, do I not have the triglides I asked for? Are the triglides a box with a centre 'bar' so the leather goes under first, over second and under third?

I'm getting myself worked up and need help :o

Re: Which way does it go?

Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 1:46 pm
by Kt Templar
Standard on the Raiders are 2 rectangular loops called sliders, these are attached to the leather loop on the back panel.

The other option is 2 D rings also attached to the loop on the back panel.

If you wanted triglides you'd have to talk with Peter and make a special request, or supply them yourself.

Re: Which way does it go?

Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 2:10 pm
by Raider Of The Lost Ark
Kt Templar wrote:Standard on the Raiders are 2 rectangular loops called sliders, these are attached to the leather loop on the back panel.

The other option is 2 D rings also attached to the loop on the back panel.

If you wanted triglides you'd have to talk with Peter and make a special request, or supply them yourself.
I DID ask for the triglides specialy. :( If you don't have them, how do you get the straps to 'point' in the right direction?

Re: Which way does it go?

Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 2:28 pm
by RCSignals
I don't think you can unless you have the sliders moved from the back panel to the front position. That is reverse the placement of the strap and sliders

Re: Which way does it go?

Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 2:39 pm
by Raider Of The Lost Ark
RCSignals wrote:I don't think you can unless you have the sliders moved from the back panel to the front position. That is reverse the placement of the strap and sliders
If that is the case, why are they put on that way round? I've emaild Peter , hopefully he will get back to me on Tuesday. I'd really hoped that after the wait for the leather it would all be OK.....

Re: Which way does it go?

Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 2:54 pm
by RCSignals
Raider Of The Lost Ark wrote:
RCSignals wrote:I don't think you can unless you have the sliders moved from the back panel to the front position. That is reverse the placement of the strap and sliders
If that is the case, why are they put on that way round? I've emaild Peter , hopefully he will get back to me on Tuesday. I'd really hoped that after the wait for the leather it would all be OK.....
Well with a tri-glide buckle the strap will certainly point to the back. I don't see how that can be accomplished with rectangular or D-ring sliders unless their position on the jacket is reversed.

Re: Which way does it go?

Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 3:37 pm
by Kt Templar
The hardware is attached to the rear strap of the jacket. Reversing it is incorrect and Wested have refused to change that on many occasions.

For many years people have doubled back the strap to achieve the rear pointing effect. The original jackets were supplied with the twinned rectangular sliders, we've been told, these were likely to have been swapped by the costume dept for some sort of rectangular buckle/triglide whatever. The way it looks on screen certainly seems to support that in some scenes.

Your best bet is to request the ToD style buckle which works in the way you envision. Or to call and see if they have any triglides. It's all very well asking for something, but if they don't have it they don't have it.

Types of triglides

There seems to be a prejudice against plastic triglides, I suppose because they are anachronistic but they would work:

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The metal ones seem to be slimmer:

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There is another option, the movable bar type of triglide.

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Re: Which way does it go?

Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 3:45 pm
by Raider Of The Lost Ark
KT thanks. Although I asked for them, and Peter said no problem. If they ran out I should have been told. I waited 2 mths for the leather, I would have waited for the triglides.

Re: Which way does it go?

Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 3:53 pm
by Kt Templar
Well sounds like they forgot or the note got lost. If you get a couple of the moveable bar triglides they can be retrofitted without undoing the leather loop, or a seamstress can do it for you for a small fee.

Re: Which way does it go?

Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 4:09 pm
by Raider Of The Lost Ark
Kt Templar wrote:Well sounds like they forgot or the note got lost. If you get a couple of the moveable bar triglides they can be retrofitted without undoing the leather loop, or a seamstress can do it for you for a small fee.
Can you explain how this can be done?

Re: Which way does it go?

Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 4:12 pm
by Kt Templar
With a bit of care remove the bar. Or if you get a normal fixed bar you can saw through the bar, it will still work and it only needs a couple of mm gap to slip it on the loop.

Re: Which way does it go?

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 5:53 am
by PLATON
KT, the buckle on TOD jackets Wested offers has two prongs?

Re: Which way does it go?

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 9:29 am
by Holt
yes it has