Since when did Wested stop stictching the side staps to the back of the jacket with an 'X' pattern? I noticed Rabbittooth's new jacket doesn't have this.
Is this something you have to request, or is it something they've stoppped doing to make the jacket more 'authentic,' as it were?
Also, does the original production jacket has this 'X' stitching or not; I haven't been able to find any good stills to confirm or refute this.
Just read some old post regarding this (which I suppose I should have done in the first place), and it's a can of worms this newbie doesn't want to open.
That's a very good question. My first Wested distressed Raiders was ordered Fall of 2001 and has the 'X' stitching on the side strap. My second one ordered Fall of 2002 does not, and is just a square stitching without the 'X' instead. I hadn't noticed before.
The x style stich was introduced by Peter to make the side strap placement stronger, it was taken out in order to make it more screen accurate. I'm not sure about the raiders jacket or the temple one, but the last crusade jacket does not have the X. Actually, the stich should not have a box either but a simple line stich to attach the strap on both sides as this was the way it is with the LC jacket.
If the side strap is placed lower to the bottom of the side hand warmer.
And the distance from where the pocket placed to end of jacket, should be 2.5 inches for the LC jacket, and not 1 inch as it normally is.
The bottom edge of the jacket of the LC jacket did not have the addational stem which the Raiders jacket had along the front and back panel edges. These observations are based on notes taken of the LC jacket at the Smithsonian.
With these simple changes, one would have a screen accurate LC jacket.
All the best,
Stefan
Last edited by Stefan Hills on Wed Apr 30, 2003 10:56 am, edited 1 time in total.
I don't have the X either on my new goatskin Wested but I had it on my 2001 lambskin Wested.
I mentioned it before in the past and I think the X is more authentic but I like it as it is now aswell so... don't worry about it. Looks good.
You can ask Peter if he adds the X on it if you order it, I am sure he'll do it for you.
When I look over all my stuff it tells me Peter and Co. had it right the first time. I had the X stitch added on my last Wested and now swear by it until someone SHOWS me otherwise.
The documented film used Terry Leonard "Raiders" jacket that the Flight Suits jacket was patterned after does not have the X stitch. I would say that until somebody breaks into Ford's house and steals his jacket, we'll never know what it had . If the Raiders movie jackets were consistent at all, it would mean that the Raiders jacket did not have the X stitch. Of course, they could have been all over the place. It was only a movie jacket after all. Cheers
If you look at the pic in the Raiders/American Cinematographer where HJ has the whip around Richard Edlund the X is right there. Look for yourself. It may be correct that some of the jackets were done without the X but I can't seem to find any pics that do NOT show the X. Please come forward with some if you have them. Please. Anyone.
agent5 wrote:If you look at the pic in the Raiders/American Cinematographer where HJ has the whip around Richard Edlund the X is right there. Look for yourself. It may be correct that some of the jackets were done without the X but I can't seem to find any pics that do NOT show the X. Please come forward with some if you have them. Please. Anyone.
It'd be great if you could scan that pick and show us. All I know is what _ saw with his own eyes. The pic would also prove that the Raiders jackets were indeed all over the place. In which case the specs hardly matter (at least in my opinion since nobody's going to get their hands on Ford's). They're all authentic.
Rundquist wrote:...(at least in my opinion since nobody's going to get their hands on Ford's). They're all authentic...
Rundquist...what makes you think that Ford has any of the Original Raiders jackets?
That's the second time you've mentioned that and I just wanted to know if it's an assumption or if there's something behind it.
It'd be great if you could scan that pick and show us. All I know is what _ saw with his own eyes. The pic would also prove that the Raiders jackets were indeed all over the place. In which case the specs hardly matter (at least in my opinion since nobody's going to get their hands on Ford's). They're all authentic.
Man, I had that pic on another computer but it's gone now. Chris King mailed it to me, so Chris, if you're readin' this, I'd appreciate it. If I had the time to go through all my stuff again to research this I'm sure I'd be able to produce lots of pics showing the X pattern and that's why I went with it on my last jacket. I'm not doubting what was seen on the original jacket, but my research showed me otherwise. The beauty of it is that Peter will do whatever you want. I'd still like to see pics not showing the X pattern so I know which scenes they were not used. I just like to know these little tidbits.
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I'd still like to see pics not showing the X pattern so I know which scenes they were not used. I just like to know these little tidbits.
Cheers