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Jacket Sighting - 1944

Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 7:33 am
by Lao Feng
I was recently at a restaurant whose decor consisted on 100s (yes 100s) of original WWI and WW2 propaganda posters an Life magazine covers - all framed.

On the cover of the 2 October 1944 cover of LIFE magazine is a picture of US Army General Lucian Truscot.

He is wearing what is clearly a personal modification to a USAAF A-2: same epaulets, same pockets, same collar snaps and eye and hook closure at neck.

The modifications: no wool cuffs or waistband...straight leather cuffs and waist...like "Indy jacket". Overall length looked about ROTLA...you could see his web belt just peeking through at waist and his .45 holster hanging just below the waist

It was a superb looking jacket. (I have no idea what was done or not to the back)

Cheers -- Lao Feng

Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 7:41 am
by Vindy
I found a picture of that cover via Google - you're right! Very Indy-like!

Here's a clip of the photo:

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Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 7:45 am
by Vindy
You can find a side view of the jacket here:

Truscott Jacket (side view)

Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 7:49 am
by gwyddion
You mean this one?

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Regards, Geert

Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 9:32 am
by whipcracker
That's facinating. I think that that were more jackets like Indy's than perhaps we think. I mean it WAS a time of great style and indivduality, no Wal-Mart.

Thanks for sharing. It would be interestin gto find out more on the generals jacket. Maybe someone saw that picture when they were researching Raiders.....?

Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 9:35 am
by whipcracker
And.. the zipper goes all the way to the bottom. Look at the drape too. You know that jacket saw action!

Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 10:17 am
by CM
I have seen many jackets from the 1930's through to the 1950's that are like an Indy jacket. They were called "Utility Jackets" back then and they were common. Usually made in goat skin.

All" Raiders" did was take that idea and run with it.

Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 10:24 am
by Hatch
Also, a lot of Officers with $$ had uniforms custom tailored, could be a early tailors take on making something "his own" with Truscott"s input....just a thought

Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 1:34 pm
by Baldwyn
This is great stuff!
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Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 2:23 pm
by Indiana G
_ wrote:That, my friends is Patton's personal and custom tanker jacket. Patton is rumored to have designed it himself - as he also had designed other uniforms that he wanted to use for his troops. It is an A2 without knits and with oversized patch pockets with hand warmers. It was never a production jacket, though repros abound.
where could you buy a repro of this?

......and please don't say 'wested' under 'indiana jones jacket' :lol:

Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 2:27 pm
by Hatch
_ wrote:Here's Patton wearing his design for a paratrooper uniform. That helmet becomes the more modern Riddell football helmet after the war.

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Patton's wardrobe of eccentric uniforms of his own design earned him GI nick-names that included "Flash Gordon," the "Green Hornet."
.....................................Every time I see this picture I wonder which came first, this design or "The Rocketeer".......thank God we had him in WW 2.......

Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 2:40 pm
by Serial Hero
If I remember correctly that helmet was gold colored.

If you have the cash Orvis sells a reproduction of Patton's leather jacket.
It's on sale now for $1049.00 :shock:
http://www.orvis.com/store/productchoic ... t_id=11955

Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 3:28 pm
by Indiana G
Serial Hero wrote:If I remember correctly that helmet was gold colored.

If you have the cash Orvis sells a reproduction of Patton's leather jacket.
It's on sale now for $1049.00 :shock:
http://www.orvis.com/store/productchoic ... t_id=11955
that's the shearling bomber, not the tank leather. i googled her and everyone and their dog has a patton b3 offering.........i can't find the tanker jacket :(

Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 5:45 pm
by Baldwyn
Indiana G wrote: that's the shearling bomber, not the tank leather. i googled her and everyone and their dog has a patton b3 offering.........i can't find the tanker jacket :(
Agreed, not so easy to find. It seems easier to have a reputable tailor modify a long A2 jacket.

Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 5:46 pm
by RCSignals
Wings has a 'Cockpit' Brand B-3 on sale. Very nice.

Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 5:48 pm
by RCSignals
Indiana G wrote:
_ wrote:That, my friends is Patton's personal and custom tanker jacket. Patton is rumored to have designed it himself - as he also had designed other uniforms that he wanted to use for his troops. It is an A2 without knits and with oversized patch pockets with hand warmers. It was never a production jacket, though repros abound.
where could you buy a repro of this?

......and please don't say 'wested' under 'indiana jones jacket' :lol:
I don't know where there is a repro, but from photos probably any maker that does custom A2s could make a close copy?

Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 5:51 pm
by Hatch
Indiana G wrote:
Serial Hero wrote:If I remember correctly that helmet was gold colored.

If you have the cash Orvis sells a reproduction of Patton's leather jacket.
It's on sale now for $1049.00 :shock:
http://www.orvis.com/store/productchoic ... t_id=11955
that's the shearling bomber, not the tank leather. i googled her and everyone and their dog has a patton b3 offering.........i can't find the tanker jacket :(
............Hey G, see if _ can get "Frank" to take one over to TN to replicate :) ;-)

Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 6:42 pm
by Mac
There doesn’t appear to be a storm flap either:

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I’m sure U.S. Authentic could make one for a reasonable price.

- Mac

Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 7:08 pm
by Indiana G
it's 'no deal' for me unless the vendor has got the pattern.....i'm tired of specing jackets out based on pics :cry:

Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 7:16 pm
by Imahomer
Well, I don't want one, but I find this whole topic very interesting.

Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 7:49 pm
by RCSignals
I can't find any more about the jacket but did find this with a bit about Patton's helmet
http://travelins.blogspot.com/2008/05/a ... other.html

Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 8:04 pm
by Holt
Indiana G wrote:i'm tired of specing jackets out based on pics :cry:

:rolling:


are YOU tired of that....

then please take a wild guess about what I am my friend............

Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 8:21 pm
by RCSignals
His jacket appears to be more than just an altered A2. It's hard to tell from the Life photo if it has an internal storm flap. From the stitching beside the zipper it may have inside leather facings.
It has styling elements from an A2 but otherwise is it's own jacket

Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 9:16 pm
by Browncoat
Patton is wearing a pretty cool looking jacket. I am surprised ELC, Aero, et. al., has not tried to tackle an accurate repro.

Does Patton hold a patent for the football helmet design? Talk about being ahead of your time!

Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 10:03 pm
by Weston
Great find! Like me, he probably hated having the little hairs at his wrist pulled on by knit cuffs.

Weston

Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 10:16 pm
by IndianaJack91
that is so cool

Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 11:47 pm
by RaiderZee
For all the world it looks like a Raiders jacket, except:

1. no storm flap
2. cargo pockets instead of flat pockets
3. epaulettes (sewn down?)

Plus tailored fit, Wested's best leather . . .

RaiderZee

Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 4:46 am
by CairoIndy
Man,that is a nice jacket!..that's how I'd like my Indy jacket to fit.
Wonder if Magnoli would make a replica of this jacket?.

Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 10:35 am
by PLATON
_ wrote
That, my friends is Patton's personal and custom tanker jacket. Patton is rumored to have designed it himself - as he also had designed other uniforms that he wanted to use for his troops. It is an A2 without knits and with oversized patch pockets with hand warmers. It was never a production jacket, though repros abound.
My friend, I thought tanker jackets were made of cotton. From the pic, this looks like leather. What's going on? Do you have any more info?

Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 10:37 am
by crismans
As has been stated, Patton designed a lot of his own stuff. Even in the movie (not wholly accurate I know but I think this part was), he talked of a uniform he designed for tankers. Even if most tankers jackets were cloth, I know he wore a leather one a lot.

Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 10:52 am
by PLATON
This one is my favorite

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General Douglas MacArthur


Did you know General Parson designed the M-41 jacket?

Here's the story
http://www.found-nyc.com/blog/2008/01/1 ... ld-jacket/

Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 11:31 am
by bigrex
CairoIndy wrote:Man,that is a nice jacket!..that's how I'd like my Indy jacket to fit.
Wonder if Magnoli would make a replica of this jacket?.
That would be a really cool jacket to be able to offer for sale. Looks like nobody else offers them so maybe they would sell on militaria forums as well. The fit and cut is amazing, the collars look great too. Looks like Patton had an eye for design.

Re: Jacket Sighting - 1944

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 3:50 pm
by RCSignals
Found this

http://www.cockpitusa.com/store/product ... 373&page=1

Notice though the black shown jacket is different from the brown jacket shown :-k

Re: Jacket Sighting - 1944

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 7:53 pm
by Lao Feng
Many thanks to all who found photos of Gen Truscott and his jacket. I've been in the forum for 5 or 6 years and this is the first time any post of mine ever generated follow ons such as these. Funny to think that Gen Truscott is now likely more well known for his leather jacket than his exploits. Hah! Cheers --Lao Feng (West Point '76) :tup:

Re: Jacket Sighting - 1944

Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 4:37 am
by PETER
Well as a point of interest I made for Bermans & Nathan the leather jacket worn by Patton in the film PATTON
Cheers
Peter

Re: Jacket Sighting - 1944

Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 6:44 am
by PLATON
Was he wearing this one in the film? The B-3?

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Or something else?

Re: Jacket Sighting - 1944

Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 1:24 pm
by Kevin Anderson
_ has gone crazy. Glad I'm here to witness this.... :)

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Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 1:25 pm
by hovitos loincloth
[quote="_"]Here's Patton wearing his design for a paratrooper uniform. That helmet becomes the more modern Riddell football helmet after the war.

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Was this to render the wehrmacht helpless with laughter?