Club Obi Wan

So I was thinking that if enough people on COW showed interest in Todd selling SA pants that maybe he would consider it. So lets chime in and express our opinions about this. ;-)

I don't have one of Todd's shirts (I hopefully will soon though), but if he makes pants that are as SA as his shirt is (and machine-washable) then I would definitely get a pair. I have a lot of his stuff: jacket, boots, 2 bag straps, 2 web belts, gun belt, whip holder, and holster. And I'm quite pleased with all of it. I would definitly get a pair.

I'd give it some thought....

Sure, I'd buy them especially if they are machine washable.

I would probably order two pairs if they were as SA as his shirt

I would definitely buy a pair IF the pockets were SA like the Paris pants

Nibs

If Todd's pants come under $50, then it'll be worth it.

I love his shirt (and I think I'll order another one just to put on dark buttons and have a different version) and if he were making pants too, I'd be all over those!!

Shane

Why Todd never have been interested in offer the pants??

I would think designing/manufacturing of pants to be more involved than making a shirt. Probably more of an investment/risk?Not impossible,but a bigger business decision. Maybe Todd or one of our tailors can give insight?
But Hey,based on Todd's shirts,I'd certainly be in for some comparable pants. I'm currently getting by with close-enoughs.
~raider 57

Hey All,

It has taken me two years to find a fabric supplier that makes cavalry twill in a color that is real close to the right color for Raiders pants. I am still modifying a Vogue pattern to make a pair of Indy pants. PLATON can't even get his tailor to make the angled seam over the back pocket. Todd has his stuff made over seas (if I'm not mistaken). He must get the right color fabric, the right type of fabric, the right pattern, and make sure his tailor will follow it. They must be sized correctly for Americans (echoes of the boot problem) and then shipped here to sit in Customs for who knows how long. To do all this right, for a "decent" price (one where he makes money and we can afford them) will be impressive, most impressive. If Todd can pull that out of his hat, well, ...that's some hat!

Dan S

Well if he had enough buyers i think it would be worth his while

I wonder what a regular batch of Todd's consists of? number wise that is

If Todd continued in his pattern of offering good items at lower prices, I would definitely buy pants from him. I love my Wested pants, but at 50 pounds each, I would definitely look to pay less for my next pair.

If Todd has pants at a great price like his shirts I know I'll be getting a pair.

I actually emailed him about the pants when I ordered a shirt last year some time. I think he hinted that he might be doing them some time this year. Springtime comes to mind for some reason. Unless I just imagined the whole thing. Hope he does though as I would probably be buying a pair

If he could copy screen used ones I would definitely buy a pair at least

If they were as good as his shirts I wouldn't think twice.

Can someone with some expertise chime in here? I really like my Noel Howard trousers. I would buy another pair of these right away. How SA are they? They seem to be built extremely well. I wish Todd could duplicate these trousers in an unfinished length. Then again, I'd also be interested in a pair of similar cotton trousers as well. Just my two cents worth.

Indiana Jake

NH trousers ARE THE pants, the only thing that is not right about them I think is the pocket flap on the rear pocket. but other than that. you don't get much closer to the original than a pair of Noel Howard trousers.

"do you love me, do you want to be my friend, check yes or no" sorry, sometimes I have weird associative thoughts with things.. and oddly enough, I thought of that country music song when I was choosing sides.

I checked yes btw. I'd buy them in a heartbeat.

Randy

I appreciate the comments, and I get constant requests for pants. Of course, I would like to offer them and am working to that end. (no questions about WHEN, please!)

I will tell you that the owner of a pair of Raiders screen-used pants has contacted me and offered to let me take a pattern from them. We are trying to work out a date, as it would involve a plane trip for me. I want to match the exact color, fabric weight and weave, pattern, etc.

After that I will begin sourcing fabric. I have several mills eager to weave the fabric for me. I have a manufacturer lined up. I have no idea how long the process will take. So far, it's been six months, and I've been buying vintage cavalry twill trousers for fabric samples.

As far as "overseas divisions", you guys must get the idea that I'm a huge business. I should show you pictures of this place! It's very small, and all of my "elves" are part time - sometimes. I have been fortunate to find overseas vendors with very small minimum order quantities and who do quality work. It's the only way to offer good quality products at a reasonable price and still stay in business with the small volume that I sell. After all, these are very "esoteric" products! Some items we still make here because we can't find the quality that we want from overseas. The bag straps and whip holders are two of them.

Okay, that's the only top secret classified project I will divulge. We have many more in progress that you're going to love, but my lips are sealed!

And again, please don't ask me when these pants will be for sale, and don't ask these other questions: "do you think they'll be ready this year?", do you think they'll be here for Halloween?" "How are those pants coming?" "Can you give me a ball park?" "Are we talking weeks, months, or years?" "What sizes will you have?" "How many belt loops will they have?" "Will you offer machine washable as well?" "Will they come hemmed?" "How many buttons will be on the fly?" "How deep will the pockets be?" "What kind of thread will you use?" "How much will they cost?" "How pointy will you make the pocket flaps?" "Will they make my butt look big?" "Can you make them out of kangaroo?" "I'm 4'10". Can I get them custom made?" "Are you going to have kid's sizes?" "Would you say they're more practical as an everyday item than a helper monkey?" "If I undergo a startling metamorphosis, and become a green creature of immense proportions, will these stretch with me?" "Will these grip well in vinyl seats during high G-force maneuvers, or will they slide too much?" "Can I wear these to cross the Sahara?" "Can I use these to perform water rescues?"

Please. I beg of you. Be patient. I'll let you know the minute you can buy them.

Todd

Ok.......

So, are they ready yet?



Regards! Michaelson

Puppetboy wrote:I appreciate the comments, and I get constant requests for pants. Of course, I would like to offer them and am working to that end. (no questions about WHEN, please!)

I will tell you that the owner of a pair of Raiders screen-used pants has contacted me and offered to let me take a pattern from them. We are trying to work out a date, as it would involve a plane trip for me. I want to match the exact color, fabric weight and weave, pattern, etc.

After that I will begin sourcing fabric. I have several mills eager to weave the fabric for me. I have a manufacturer lined up. I have no idea how long the process will take. So far, it's been six months, and I've been buying vintage cavalry twill trousers for fabric samples.

As far as "overseas divisions", you guys must get the idea that I'm a huge business. I should show you pictures of this place! It's very small, and all of my "elves" are part time - sometimes. I have been fortunate to find overseas vendors with very small minimum order quantities and who do quality work. It's the only way to offer good quality products at a reasonable price and still stay in business with the small volume that I sell. After all, these are very "esoteric" products! Some items we still make here because we can't find the quality that we want from overseas. The bag straps and whip holders are two of them.

Okay, that's the only top secret classified project I will divulge. We have many more in progress that you're going to love, but my lips are sealed!

And again, please don't ask me when these pants will be for sale, and don't ask these other questions: "do you think they'll be ready this year?", do you think they'll be here for Halloween?" "How are those pants coming?" "Can you give me a ball park?" "Are we talking weeks, months, or years?" "What sizes will you have?" "How many belt loops will they have?" "Will you offer machine washable as well?" "Will they come hemmed?" "How many buttons will be on the fly?" "How deep will the pockets be?" "What kind of thread will you use?" "How much will they cost?" "How pointy will you make the pocket flaps?" "Will they make my butt look big?" "Can you make them out of kangaroo?" "I'm 4'10". Can I get them custom made?" "Are you going to have kid's sizes?" "Would you say they're more practical as an everyday item than a helper monkey?" "If I undergo a startling metamorphosis, and become a green creature of immense proportions, will these stretch with me?" "Will these grip well in vinyl seats during high G-force maneuvers, or will they slide too much?" "Can I wear these to cross the Sahara?" "Can I use these to perform water rescues?"

Please. I beg of you. Be patient. I'll let you know the minute you can buy them.

Todd

Yeah, they're ready.

If these are 100% SA... count me in.

Puppetboy wrote:Yeah, they're ready.

;-)

Hey Puppetboy, you forgot to ad one question to your 'do not ask me' list: Can I wear these while drinking coffee? ;-)

seriously though, That's some great news and I hope they will become available soon enough. What's soon enough? Well, preferably before I turn 83, which will be another 54 years away. ;-)

Regards, Geert

Yeah, they're ready.

Credit the Three Stooges for that one.

Moe: C'mon, let's go you chuckle-heads!
Curly: I'll go when I'M good and ready!
Moe: You ready now?
Curly: Yeah, I'm ready!

Yep, and I actually remembered too!

HIGH regards! Michaelson

shouldn't there be a "no" option as well on the poll?

"No" is not an option.

Remember Jon Lovitz playing Lucifer on SNL?

You WILL buy these pants! You WILL!! You will bow down to ME!!!! WORSHIP ME!!!! I will rule you all!!! Buy my pants!!!! BUY THEM!!!!!

You know, if you put a watch pocket in them, I could guarantee you'd sell at least two pair.

;-)

Are these pants going to be "drag me behind a truck and come out without holes tough"?

Or do I need to look elsewhere for my stunt pants? I was planning to recreate the scene to post on youtube. Should I use the street I live on or find a dirt road to be SA?

Randy

Hey Puppetboy,

That's what I meant by overseas. I didn't think you were a multi-million dollar conglomerate... yet. ;-)

Dan S

I was planning to recreate the scene to post on youtube.

You, too?

(No, "YOUTUBE"! I figured I'd beat you to the punch line.)

I didn't think you were a multi-million dollar conglomerate... yet.

Yeah, but I'm close. I've already got one of those hugh, high-tech, black leather Darth Vader office chairs! I'm just waiting until I can spin around and say "Welcome, Mr. Bond. I've been expecting you."

You know Todd puts a lot of thought, and research into his products. The longer we wait, the better they'll be. Its better not to rush something, especially when we are all so detail oriented. Can't wait for the pants, but I will!

Can't wait for the pants, but I will!

You do have a pair to wear in the meantime, right?

Just kidding, TheExit148! I couldn't resist! You know I think of you as a brother, right? I mean that. You're okay in my book!

You do have a pair to wear in the meantime, right?

haha actually I... wait a minute...
If you mean indy pants, kinda. If you mean real pants... haha I'm good. Its all good Todd, no worries!

Well it seems like theres a lot of us ready to do business with you Todd. But thats true,the longer we wait the better the product. Hopefully you knock this project out of the park!

I'll definately buy a pair. Well, maybe more than one...well, maybe two pair...well....Yep. I'd buy a pair.

I'm sure it would boil down to price. There are a lot of alternate pants out there already.

I'm sure the price would be very affordable like the shirt and boots

The poll is a bit biased, IMO better options would be "yes", "maybe" and "no".

My answer would be no.

I realized that after a few replies. Sorry about that

i asked todd about the pants and he said they are thinking about it so they might do it if he gets enough people asking about it

Well i think he has enough buyers