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Shackleton's Fedora

Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 6:14 am
by Indiana Joosse
I know this is off-topic for Indy, but as this is about an adventurer with a fedora, and I genuinly want to know, please don't kill me straight away... :[

While watching Brannagh's Shackleton I noticed that he wore a fedora quite a lot during the expedition.

Does anybody know if there are any pictures out there of Earnest Shackleton wearing his fedora on Antartica, and does anybody know what type of fedore he was actually wearing?

Thanks guys. :)

Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 10:52 am
by enigmata_wood
You piqued my curiosity so I went hunting for you and found these
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http://photographoftheday.blogspot.com/ ... frank.html
I found no info on who the maker was though.

Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 8:57 pm
by carolinamike
You can see some more details in this one:
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It's from the Royal Geographical Society's website. http://images.rgs.org/search_.aspx?personInPhotoID=9

Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 9:58 pm
by inexpensive_jones
He definitely has the turn, but the bash is what a modified LC? :)

Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 10:56 pm
by maboot38
If you get your hands on the illustrated version of Alfred Lansing's "Endurance", you will find that both Shackleton and Wild wore fedoras on the expedition. You can see one of both of them in hats on page 87 and another on 93. There is one of Shackelton on pg. 141 at which point his fedora has completely lost its bash, if it is even the same hat. After Shackleton left on the James Caird, there are no more photos of him in since the photographer stayed behind on Elephant Island.

There is one more photo at the back of the book, but that photo makes be believe that it was a totally different hat than the fedora in the dog photo. I think the shot with the dog is the only photo from the expedition that shows him in that fedora.

By the way, if you haven't read the book, treat yourself. It is amazing.

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 5:32 am
by enigmata_wood
maboot38 wrote:If you get your hands on the illustrated version of Alfred Lansing's "Endurance", you will find that both Shackleton and Wild wore fedoras on the expedition. You can see one of both of them in hats on page 87 and another on 93. There is one of Shackelton on pg. 141 at which point his fedora has completely lost its bash, if it is even the same hat. After Shackleton left on the James Caird, there are no more photos of him in since the photographer stayed behind on Elephant Island.

There is one more photo at the back of the book, but that photo makes be believe that it was a totally different hat than the fedora in the dog photo. I think the shot with the dog is the only photo from the expedition that shows him in that fedora.

By the way, if you haven't read the book, treat yourself. It is amazing.
Going off on a related tangent I can recommend Ranulph Feinnes' Scott as an excellent book about Scott's expedition to the south pole, written with the insight of someone who has himself endured those hardships. it puts the denegrating armchair 'polar experts' soundly in their place.

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 11:28 am
by maboot38
But did Scott bring a Fedora with him?? ;-)

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 2:24 pm
by Long John Tinfoil
To put on his head. Sort of like why a fireman wears red braces/suspenders.

LJ :Plymouth:

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 7:59 pm
by maboot38
Huh? Please reread. I didn't ask WHY he brought one, I asked IF he brought one. :)

Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 11:19 pm
by Long John Tinfoil
:oops:

Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 9:11 am
by Trotsky
Yes, Scott brought one both times, as near as I can figure. It was a very wide brimmed hat, designed for sun protection. You can see it in a few of the Polar journey trips. It was often tied down so as to provide "blinders" of a sort for the bright, bright snow.

Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 9:17 am
by maboot38
I guess there is also the "is it a fedora" question, because whereas I identify the hat in the dog photo as a "fedora", the other photo (and the others I found in the book), are more like a cavalry hat, which could just be the same hat bashed differently, but I'm not sure.

Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 11:46 am
by bigrex
Here's an interesting link that starts out with a picture of E. Shackleton waiving his hat. It also has some recent color photos of the expedition's hut preserved in the cold.

http://www.polartrec.com/node/228

Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 10:19 am
by Indiana Joosse
Fantastic guys!

:)

I knew this was the right place to ask such a stupid obsessive question...

Thank you all very much!

:) :) :)

Great links!

Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 11:10 am
by maboot38
Us? Obsessive?

Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 5:11 am
by Indiana Joosse
Oh, not you Maboot.

I mean the other people....

I would never call you obsessive.... :[

Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 8:15 am
by Luke Warmwater
Long John Tinfoil wrote:To put on his head. Sort of like why a fireman wears red braces/suspenders.LJ :Plymouth:
I've never worn a fedora to keep my pants up.

Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 9:00 am
by maboot38
Yeah, they don't hold up your pants, and apparently you can only put them on your head. See this thread for details:

viewtopic.php?t=37353

Re: Shackleton's Fedora

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 3:33 am
by Indiana Jerry
Just because you didn't ask, here's something non-hat related about Shackleton. ;)

http://indygear.com/cow/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=48137

Re: Shackleton's Fedora

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 3:53 am
by Ian
I found a close-up of Shackleton wearing the fedora in the previous picture, pulling off the Steve Delk look quite nicely :lol: .

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Ian

Re: Shackleton's Fedora

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 10:55 am
by Indiana Joosse
Ian wrote:I found a close-up of Shackleton wearing the fedora in the previous picture, pulling off the Steve Delk look quite nicely :lol: .

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Ian
Nice one, Ian.

Thanks! :TOH:

Re: Shackleton's Fedora

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 11:53 am
by whipcracker
I think he wore a Christy's and an HJ, but was on the waiting list for an ABD...