Pics of new Wested Raiders Custom

indy1936 · Post by **indy1936** » Sat Jan 10, 2009 1:52 pm

Received this right at the end of December. It is a custom 46L. The yoke is much smaller and higher than on my previous three raiders jackets. Which looks great when wearing it. It measures at least 1 inch higher. I swapped out the rectangular sliders for black tri-glides so that the straps will face the back panel. I didn't specify the inside pocket, collar/storm flap placement or yoke size but they all came out great. My only gripes would be the back panel not extending all the way out and the pockets being just a tad small (making it harder to fit my hands inside the side warmers). I think on larger jackets it is hard to find a piece of leather big enough to cover the entire back panel. Best jacket I've received yet! I'm happy with it!

Raider S · Post by **Raider S** » Sat Jan 10, 2009 2:06 pm

Looks really nice. Pockets do seem small, but look good.

Post by **Holt** » Sat Jan 10, 2009 2:35 pm

the jacket looks good,and the hide will last forever,just wait until it relaxes.

but to give you the truth.I would send it back to wested and let them do bigger pockets on the jakcet.

the pockets will tear since you must force your hands into the handwarmers.send it back now so you wont regret it later.

and I would let them instal some new buckles instead of those blueish ones.

the back panel looks great and so does the yolk versus sleeve seam.

just my2cents.

Holt

RCSignals · Post by **RCSignals** » Sat Jan 10, 2009 3:08 pm

It looks nice. I agree with Holt about the pockets. It almost looks like they are ToD jacket sized pockets

Post by **Holt** » Sat Jan 10, 2009 3:35 pm

also the jacket being a 46 Long will make them look even smaller.

send it back,they will tear eventually

what size are the pockets?

I did this,see the difference.the one on the left is more suited for the jacket

Raider S · Post by **Raider S** » Sat Jan 10, 2009 3:54 pm

Thought you had a TOD. I think they put TOD size pockets on yours by mistake or something.

indy1936 · Post by **indy1936** » Sat Jan 10, 2009 5:09 pm

Thanks for the input. The pockets do seem a bit small i think they are 6" x 7". The buckles are black in person but showed up blue in the photos for some reason.

Texas Raider · Post by **Texas Raider** » Sat Jan 10, 2009 5:11 pm

Man, I can't believe that Wested doesn't recognize the need to make the pockets proportionate to the specific size jacket! That jacket is a 46,,that's pretty big,,the pockets need to be MUCH bigger to be to scale with the jacket.

TR

PSBIndy · Post by **PSBIndy** » Sat Jan 10, 2009 5:36 pm

Also one pocket looks quite bigger than the other. Send it back.

indy1936 · Post by **indy1936** » Sat Jan 10, 2009 6:07 pm

The photo with the 1 bigger pocket was showing how a larger pocket would look. It was edited.

Post by **Holt** » Sat Jan 10, 2009 6:09 pm

PSBIndy wrote:Also one pocket looks quite bigger than the other. Send it back.

and what is that big red ugly line on the jacket,I mean what is that all about? thats not SA

indy1936 · Post by **indy1936** » Sat Jan 10, 2009 6:10 pm

indy1936 · Post by **indy1936** » Sat Jan 10, 2009 6:12 pm

Here's a question. How much taper should the back panel have from top to bottom? This seems to have more taper than previous jackets. It seems to look better when wearing it though.

Browncoat · Post by **Browncoat** » Sat Jan 10, 2009 6:22 pm

I actually like the taper. It probably looks really good if it matches the taper of your back especially with the straps pulled for a custom fit.

The pockets do look like ToD pockets.

I'd like to see a Wested with Tony's 6.5 x 8 pockets myself. I think larger pockets and fuller cut sleeves would really improve the Wested pattern.

Texas Raider · Post by **Texas Raider** » Sat Jan 10, 2009 7:33 pm

Taper should be there on back panel.

TR

RCSignals · Post by **RCSignals** » Sat Jan 10, 2009 7:34 pm

PSBIndy wrote:Also one pocket looks quite bigger than the other. Send it back.

that Holt

indy1936 · Post by **indy1936** » Sat Jan 10, 2009 8:08 pm

Browncoat wrote:I actually like the taper. It probably looks really good if it matches the taper of your back especially with the straps pulled for a custom fit.

The pockets do look like ToD pockets.

I'd like to see a Wested with Tony's 6.5 x 8 pockets myself. I think larger pockets and fuller cut sleeves would really improve the Wested pattern.

My other 3 Westeds (98, 03, 04) have the 6.5 x 8 pockets. Weird how they are smaller this time. I did ask for the scalloped flaps so maybe they somehow assumed smaller pockets based on someone elses specs. I think this jacket actually has tighter cut sleeves which worked out ok this time as my last jacket was a little baggy in the sleeves near the wrist.

PSBIndy · Post by **PSBIndy** » Sat Jan 10, 2009 11:02 pm

indy1936 wrote:The photo with the 1 bigger pocket was showing how a larger pocket would look. It was edited.

Send it back anyways, it's cursed.

bigrex · Post by **bigrex** » Sun Jan 11, 2009 12:15 am

PSBIndy wrote:
indy1936 wrote:The photo with the 1 bigger pocket was showing how a larger pocket would look. It was edited.
Send it back anyways, it's cursed.

or haunted.

indy1936 · Post by **indy1936** » Sun Jan 11, 2009 12:34 am

Now I'm spooked!

crismans · Post by **crismans** » Sun Jan 11, 2009 12:52 am

I wouldn't think the scalloped pocket flaps would have anything to do with the size (but what do I know?). If the pockets are too small for you to comfortably put your hands in without the risk of tearing, I'd send it back for bigger pockets. If not, you'll never be totally happy with it and end up getting another one with bigger pockets (or that's what I'd do anyway

).

indy1936 · Post by **indy1936** » Mon Jan 12, 2009 2:01 pm

crismans wrote:I wouldn't think the scalloped pocket flaps would have anything to do with the size (but what do I know?). If the pockets are too small for you to comfortably put your hands in without the risk of tearing, I'd send it back for bigger pockets. If not, you'll never be totally happy with it and end up getting another one with bigger pockets (or that's what I'd do anyway ).

I was thinking maybe they thought I wanted Platon's pockets? The smaller pockets popped up in this thread also: http://indygear.com/cow/viewtopic.php?t=32710

Indywannabe · Post by **Indywannabe** » Tue Jan 13, 2009 11:29 am

A question:

Did you request the yoke seam to be 1 inch higher than the armseam or did it come this way?

indy1936 · Post by **indy1936** » Tue Jan 13, 2009 11:52 am

Requested. It looks like they just shrank the size of the yoke which raised the seam by about 1" - 2". The arm seams seem to be positioned the same as in my other jackets.

sebas · Post by **sebas** » Tue Jan 13, 2009 1:58 pm

Great-looking jacket, indy1936. I love the grain and color. Having said that, those cargo pockets indeed are tiny. Temple of Doomish. A bit of a hybrid jacket, I suppose.
Cheers.

CM · Post by CM » Tue Jan 13, 2009 5:24 pm

Browncoat wrote:

I'd like to see a Wested with Tony's 6.5 x 8 pockets myself. I think larger pockets and fuller cut sleeves would really improve the Wested pattern.

Really? In the past the biggest problem with Wested is that the pockets have been way too big. 6.5 x 8 is common enough for Wested but they often go at 7 X 8.5 which is nuts. We used to call them clown pockets on this site.

Apart from this particualr jacket, then pockets on Wested are ususally okay these days for a Raiders. Forget their LC jacket - they never seem to get them right unless you send in specs.

RCSignals · Post by **RCSignals** » Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:37 pm

CM wrote:
Browncoat wrote:

I'd like to see a Wested with Tony's 6.5 x 8 pockets myself. I think larger pockets and fuller cut sleeves would really improve the Wested pattern.
Really? In the past the biggest problem with Wested is that the pockets have been way too big. 6.5 x 8 is common enough for Wested but they often go at 7 X 8.5 which is nuts. We used to call them clown pockets on this site.

Apart from this particualr jacket, then pockets on Wested are ususally okay these days for a Raiders. Forget their LC jacket - they never seem to get them right unless you send in specs.

It's looking more like there isn't a 'common enough' Wested Raiders pocket size.
too many requests for variations maybe. A vicious circle.

RCSignals · Post by **RCSignals** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 3:04 pm

Look at the pockets on this one

indy1936 · Post by **indy1936** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 4:23 pm

Woah! Tall!

RCSignals · Post by **RCSignals** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 4:25 pm

indy1936 wrote:Woah! Tall!

It's a Wested on that famous auction site

knibs7 · Post by **knibs7** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 5:23 pm

Wow those pockets would be at my ribs!!!

Nibs

Browncoat · Post by **Browncoat** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 7:50 pm

CM wrote: Really? In the past the biggest problem with Wested is that the pockets have been way too big. 6.5 x 8 is common enough for Wested but they often go at 7 X 8.5 which is nuts. We used to call them clown pockets on this site.

Apart from this particualr jacket, then pockets on Wested are ususally okay these days for a Raiders. Forget their LC jacket - they never seem to get them right unless you send in specs.

Well 7 X 8.5 inch pockets would be oversized unless the jacket was a 60R+

Wested's pattern does need tweaking. Can you honestly say (leather excluded) from a superficial standpoint that the Wested pattern is more accurate than the TN? The TN has the larger pockets, fuller sleeves and shorter body pretty much everything opposite of standard present Wested.

As far as what has happened in the past, its funny that jackets made in the past and were possibly snubbed for their inaccuracies are now being relooked for their construction, hide, etc. One person's garbage is another's treasure.

It is a vicious cycle but its great that Wested offers that much customization for the low price point.

indy1936 · Post by **indy1936** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 10:18 pm

CM wrote: As far as what has happened in the past, its funny that jackets made in the past and were possibly snubbed for their inaccuracies are now being relooked for their construction, hide, etc. One person's garbage is another's treasure.

It is interesting. As noted by others I have found some features on my 90s Wested to be similar to the TN. It also includes details that are now considered screen accurate but were later changed based on customer input. The pocket shape, pleat depth, collar/storm flap placement come to mind as matching some current ideas on accuracy. Also interesting how things such as the side straps and d rings were modified once delivered to the set. All of this has been discussed before though.