My U.S. Wings jacket came today!..and it's juuuusst right.
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My U.S. Wings jacket came today!..and it's juuuusst right.
After wanting a real leather jacket for so long I finally got it today, a dark brown A-2 2000 (goatskin) from U.S. Wings and it's perfect!
I was SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO stressed about so many things with this jacket. I was mostly worried it would feel like really dry, rough basketball leather or asphault or something.. but it's really really smooth and soft, I'm a huge goatskin fan now. God it feels so good.
I was worried about the color but it looks great and isn't too dark.. in the right light it definitely looks brown.
I was also really worried about the fit. In the past I've usually gotten things in XL. I'm a L in most things but XL is usually just comfortable but lately I'm going to just get L stuff especially since I will lose weight. After so many people saying they run really really large I ordered an L. Then I was worried that even that would be too big after what some have said but it isn't.. it's just right. It's snug and in the small range that something can be comfortable and just right it's on the small side.
It's everything I've always wanted in a bomber jacket. There was always this sort of indescribable way I wanted the sleeves to be, like sort of puppy near the hands and it is I was really happy about that.
It feels so much better than the really expensive ones at the mall too.
Just curious about something they put in the flier that came with it
"U.S. Wings's Indiana Jones jacket isn't 'just like' the one worn by Harrison Ford in "Raiders of the Lost Ark--it is the same one. U.S. Wings designed and supplied the original for the movie."
Wasn't it Temple?
Anyway the one I have, the A-2.. doesn't fit Indiana Jones TOO well but that's because I'm obsessed with jackets now and know the differences well... other people wouldn't know the difference. But I'm glad I went with a good jacket for what I want to wear instead of just what I want for Indy... I'll get a Todd's for that.
1/15/09: new pics
http://s551.photobucket.com/albums/ii443/A22000/
I was SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO stressed about so many things with this jacket. I was mostly worried it would feel like really dry, rough basketball leather or asphault or something.. but it's really really smooth and soft, I'm a huge goatskin fan now. God it feels so good.
I was worried about the color but it looks great and isn't too dark.. in the right light it definitely looks brown.
I was also really worried about the fit. In the past I've usually gotten things in XL. I'm a L in most things but XL is usually just comfortable but lately I'm going to just get L stuff especially since I will lose weight. After so many people saying they run really really large I ordered an L. Then I was worried that even that would be too big after what some have said but it isn't.. it's just right. It's snug and in the small range that something can be comfortable and just right it's on the small side.
It's everything I've always wanted in a bomber jacket. There was always this sort of indescribable way I wanted the sleeves to be, like sort of puppy near the hands and it is I was really happy about that.
It feels so much better than the really expensive ones at the mall too.
Just curious about something they put in the flier that came with it
"U.S. Wings's Indiana Jones jacket isn't 'just like' the one worn by Harrison Ford in "Raiders of the Lost Ark--it is the same one. U.S. Wings designed and supplied the original for the movie."
Wasn't it Temple?
Anyway the one I have, the A-2.. doesn't fit Indiana Jones TOO well but that's because I'm obsessed with jackets now and know the differences well... other people wouldn't know the difference. But I'm glad I went with a good jacket for what I want to wear instead of just what I want for Indy... I'll get a Todd's for that.
1/15/09: new pics
http://s551.photobucket.com/albums/ii443/A22000/
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Thanks.
Pics are from a cellphone..just cropped + bad lighting
I hate taking pics in the bathroom but here are some more:
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll27 ... acketG.jpg
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll27 ... acketD.jpg
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Original bad 5
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http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll27 ... acket5.jpg
Pics are from a cellphone..just cropped + bad lighting
I hate taking pics in the bathroom but here are some more:
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll27 ... acketG.jpg
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll27 ... acketD.jpg
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll27 ... acket9.jpg
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll27 ... acket6.jpg
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll27 ... acket7.jpg
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll27 ... acket8.jpg
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll27 ... acketA.jpg
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll27 ... acketB.jpg
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll27 ... acketC.jpg
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll27 ... acketE.jpg
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll27 ... acketF.jpg
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll27 ... acketH.jpg
Original bad 5
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll27 ... acket1.jpg
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll27 ... acket2.jpg
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll27 ... acket3.jpg
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll27 ... acket4.jpg
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You might try mending it yourself - make the jacket truly yours.
Glad to see your purchase worked out so well. Although the folks here may not always agree on things, they won't steer you towards a bad piece of gear. Just don't ask for the "best" of anything. Forty-eight people will give sixty-seven different opinions in the first couple of hours and you'll end up chasing the perfect hat, whip, holster, pants, shirt, socks, underwear, tan lines, scars...
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Glad to see your purchase worked out so well. Although the folks here may not always agree on things, they won't steer you towards a bad piece of gear. Just don't ask for the "best" of anything. Forty-eight people will give sixty-seven different opinions in the first couple of hours and you'll end up chasing the perfect hat, whip, holster, pants, shirt, socks, underwear, tan lines, scars...
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No. They are supposed to be the same length.blueoakleyz wrote:To anyone who knows about A2s- is one pocket supposed to be longer than the other?
You can see what I mean here
I measured; the one on the left is 6.5" tall and the one on the right is 7" tall.. from the top of the panel to the bottom.
Either Wings put two different sized pockets on your jacket, or they
sewed the flaps on them wrong.
If you open up each pocket flap, you can see if they are both the same
distance up from the actual pocket.
If they are different distances, then they sewed it wrong. If they are
the same distance, then you have two different sized pockets on your
jacket.
One other thing. If you already took the tags off your Wings jacket, you
may have a hard time sending it back for an exchange or refund.
They put a very clear message on the receipt and their return policy states
if the tags are removed from the jacket, you can NOT send it back, and
its pretty much yours for life.
Also, you may want to reconsider having the missing stitching "fixed"
by someone else.
If you let someone else besides Wings "fix" your jacket, then they will
absolutely NOT take your jacket back for any reason whatsoever, even
if there are more manufacturing defects on it.
Again, this is clear in their return policy. If there is something wrong with
it, such as your defects, then send it back to them, and let them fix it.
I would contact them for a replacement jacket if I was you. Yours seems to have
slipped past their quality control guy.
You paid a good chunk of change for that jacket. It should be correct
right out of the box.
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Oh for the love of god the curse has hit me again. I ALWAYS get a defective whatever, whatever it is I buy.
And yes I took the tags off already.. I was in love with the thing I had no intention of returning or exchanging it
"Either Wings put two different sized pockets on your jacket,"
It looks that way.. I specifically measured only the actual outside pocket patch part from top to bottom..
"One other thing. If you already took the tags off your Wings jacket, you
may have a hard time sending it back for an exchange or refund. "
I wonder if this applies here. I mean the tags staying on is so they can put it back on their shelf and sell it to someone else.. but they wouldn't resell something that had different sized pockets would they?
God I am so freakin' bummed... I loved this jacket
And yes I took the tags off already.. I was in love with the thing I had no intention of returning or exchanging it
"Either Wings put two different sized pockets on your jacket,"
It looks that way.. I specifically measured only the actual outside pocket patch part from top to bottom..
"One other thing. If you already took the tags off your Wings jacket, you
may have a hard time sending it back for an exchange or refund. "
I wonder if this applies here. I mean the tags staying on is so they can put it back on their shelf and sell it to someone else.. but they wouldn't resell something that had different sized pockets would they?
God I am so freakin' bummed... I loved this jacket
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Tags or no tags...it's a brand new jacket that was received yesterday which US Wings can verify by the UPS tracking. It should not be a problem exchanging it. It was clearly defective from the get go.
However, a refund might be hard to get if the OP wore it all day long and then realized it was defective.
Still I think you can exchange it...can't hurt to try.
However, a refund might be hard to get if the OP wore it all day long and then realized it was defective.
Still I think you can exchange it...can't hurt to try.
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Where do you think the "sale" and "clearance" jackets come from?I mean the tags staying on is so they can put it back on their shelf and sell it to someone else.. but they wouldn't resell something that had different sized pockets would they?
The defects on your jacket are not that bad. We notice them because
we are all jacket nuts, who see things like this as eye sores.
The average Joe doesn't care about stuff like this, and to him, the jacket is fine.
Maybe this jacket will be sold as "new" again, or maybe it won't. We will
never know. But you can bet your house that it will be put back on the
pile to be sold again in some way or another to someone else, whether
at full price, or at the "sale" or "clearance" price.
The defects are not big enough to take the jacket apart and fix it. Now,
if one arm was 3 inches longer than the other, or the collar was on backwards,
then maybe it would be taken apart and fixed. But this one does not have
enough things really wrong with it to warrant that.
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I've returned a jacket to Wings and had my account credited with no problems. Since you've taken off the tags, you probably couldn't get a refund, but I wouldn't think you should have much trouble with an exchange since your problem is clearly something you didn't cause. Just call their service number and calmly explain your problem and ask if you can exchange the jacket.
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I suggest you stop the public discussion and go directly to David, or Laurie at laurie@uswings.com and tell them you're a member here, and what your problem is.
Let them see what they can do. I CAN tell you that public displays of this type before any direct contact and discussion has been made with this company can have the exact opposite effect (as with any vendor) than you want. They're being technically 'tried' before they've even had a chance to respond to anything.
Contact them and allow them the opportunity to make things right.
Regards! Michaelson
Let them see what they can do. I CAN tell you that public displays of this type before any direct contact and discussion has been made with this company can have the exact opposite effect (as with any vendor) than you want. They're being technically 'tried' before they've even had a chance to respond to anything.
Contact them and allow them the opportunity to make things right.
Regards! Michaelson
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The jacket looks askew in the photo too, so the only way to know is NOT to use this photo to determine if the pocket is right.
Use a ruler and measure from the bottom of the jacket to the top of the pocket on each side, then from the top of the pocket to the top of the shoulder seam and see if they match. Measure the jacket, not the photo example.
The photo above is NOT one to use. You can see the storm flap is turned to the right, which will pull the left hand pocket down in the photo. The red line used as an example is even bent the same amount in the photo as the pocket is low, so this photos doesn't prove anything of the sort. Measure.
Regard! Michaelson
Use a ruler and measure from the bottom of the jacket to the top of the pocket on each side, then from the top of the pocket to the top of the shoulder seam and see if they match. Measure the jacket, not the photo example.
The photo above is NOT one to use. You can see the storm flap is turned to the right, which will pull the left hand pocket down in the photo. The red line used as an example is even bent the same amount in the photo as the pocket is low, so this photos doesn't prove anything of the sort. Measure.
Regard! Michaelson
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Yeah sounds like they are I'm sending it back todayMichaelson wrote:Understood. I'm sure with a 1/2 inch of measureable difference, you will have no problems with Wings making it right. Stop worrying about it. ;-)
MERRY CHRISTMAS!
REgard! Michaelson
It's only a 1/2" but for some reason when I'm wearing it it looks much bigger. I tried to see if I could live with it because otherwise this jacket somehow is everything I've always wanted in a leather jacket and I hate to send it back.
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blueoakleyz wrote:Just in case anyone cares, I'm finally getting my replacement Wednesday (I hate ups ground it's sooo slow). I'm so excited and I really miss the one I sent in.
The Sarge will make things right. Let's all rally around our mutual dislike for ups ground. The US postal service is faster than they are.
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here here........and USPS doesn't seem to enjoy crushing boxes marked 'fragile' either.......go figure?!?!?Rundquist wrote:blueoakleyz wrote:Just in case anyone cares, I'm finally getting my replacement Wednesday (I hate ups ground it's sooo slow). I'm so excited and I really miss the one I sent in.
The Sarge will make things right. Let's all rally around our mutual dislike for ups ground. The US postal service is faster than they are.
UPS is the last service i would choose. if i had to ship a fragile antique item worth thousands of dollars, i would sooner give it to a homeless drug addict that owned a donkey.
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Did you request that they give the replacement jacket a really good quality control inspection before shipping it to you? I would hate for you to have to go through all of this again.blueoakleyz wrote:Just in case anyone cares, I'm finally getting my replacement Wednesday (I hate ups ground it's sooo slow). I'm so excited and I really miss the one I sent in.
UPS is actually pretty good when you are being shipped an item from a store or warehouse.
Where UPS fails is when you ship from one residence to another. Not only will they damage the package you sent marked fragile, but they will deny the insurance claim and blame you for the damage.
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I worked at UPS when I was younger, you wouldn't believe what goes on. They work you till you drop, I lasted 3 months. But on the upside if you want to lost weight fast it's the place to go. I went from 185 to 165 that's why I quit, lost too much weight and was getting sick from it. Sorry to get off track back to jacket talk, can't wait to see Blueoaks replacement.
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No I didn't want to sound picky or pushy or anything I just hope it was implied that they look at it before sending it. I hope. If this one comes with a pocket 4 inches longer than the other I'm keeping it cuz I can't stand being without it (I know, weird).Browncoat wrote:Did you request that they give the replacement jacket a really good quality control inspection before shipping it to you? I would hate for you to have to go through all of this again.blueoakleyz wrote:Just in case anyone cares, I'm finally getting my replacement Wednesday (I hate ups ground it's sooo slow). I'm so excited and I really miss the one I sent in.
UPS is actually pretty good when you are being shipped an item from a store or warehouse.
Where UPS fails is when you ship from one residence to another. Not only will they damage the package you sent marked fragile, but they will deny the insurance claim and blame you for the damage.
Here's the thing about USPS priority mail. I sent it priority mail on a friday from california, the next saturday it was already on the east coast and it arrived at US Wings on Monday. UPS ground takes over a week for the same price
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Boy I had a bad dream last night.. it came and had bright red blotches/coloring everywhere.. and that it was missing the worn in/wrinkled texture on the sleeves that the last one did. Unfortunately that last part is true.
I got it today and everything seems just fine. It feels very new, stiffer but still nice and smooth.. feels very good. Even pockets.
The only problem is a sort of puffed up loose little patch of leather on the left breast. I can live with it but maybe you all can help me to tone it down a bit? I'm not sure what to do.. blow dry it?
Will post good pics of the whole jacket later
I got it today and everything seems just fine. It feels very new, stiffer but still nice and smooth.. feels very good. Even pockets.
The only problem is a sort of puffed up loose little patch of leather on the left breast. I can live with it but maybe you all can help me to tone it down a bit? I'm not sure what to do.. blow dry it?
Will post good pics of the whole jacket later
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Yeah I'm not going to obsess over it or certainly not exchange it.Michaelson wrote:Looks like a scar from the animal rather than a finish problem.
I'd say let it go. I see something like that on every jacket I own.
Regards! Michaelson
Although maybe it'll give me the courage/reason to put a patch on the jacket but I don't know a thing about patches or where to get leather patches..