Traveling with a whip: Update
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Traveling with a whip: Update
I was just over on the TSA site and noticed that Bullwhips are no longer on the list of prohibited carry-on items on flights.
Has anyone carried on a whip recently without any problem?
Dalexs
Has anyone carried on a whip recently without any problem?
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I just got back from the WWAC convention last month. I am fairly certain the whip was on the TSA list at that time. But if it's not there now, I would doubt you can get away with it. It's basically a judgement call by the security people if they determine your item is a weapon and then you are really stuck. Then you will need to get out of line and have it stowed in regular checked luggage. I would recommend checking it or the option is to UPS or FedEx it to your destination hotel, insured of course.
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I just did a google search on: TSA Whips. Check this out:
http://www.dot.gov/affairs/tsa0702.htm
It says:
Items prohibited from aircraft cabins:
The following items will not be allowed through the security checkpoint. Please note that this list is not all-inclusive. In addition to items specifically listed here, other items that may be deemed to present a potential threat may also be prohibited.
Ammunition
Automatic weapons
Axes
Baseball bats
BB guns
Billy clubs
Blackjacks
Blasting caps
Bows and arrows
Box cutters
Brass knuckles
Bull whips
Cattle prods
Compressed air guns
Corkscrews
Cricket bats
Crow bars
Disabling chemicals or gases
Dog repellent spray
Dynamite
Fire extinguishers
Flare pistols
Golf clubs
Gun lighters
Gunpowder
Hammers
Hand grenades
Hatchets
Hockey sticks
Hunting knives
Ice axe/Ice pick
Knives (any length)
Kubatons
Large, heavy tools (such as wrenches, pliers, etc.)
Mace
Martial arts devices
Meat cleavers
Metal scissors with pointed tips
Numchucks
Pellet guns
Pen knives
Pepper spray
Pistols
Plastic explosives
Pool cues
Portable power drills
Portable power saws
Razor blades (not in a cartridge)
Religious knives
Replica weapons
Revolvers
Rifles
Road flares
SCUBA knives
Sabers
Screwdrivers
Shot guns
Ski poles
Spear guns
Starter pistols
Straight razors
Stun guns/shocking devices
Swords
Tear gas
Throwing stars
Toy transformer robots (this toy forms a toy gun)
Toy weapons
Passengers should be aware that there are no provisions for returning banned items to them when they are left at the security checkpoint. In addition, those who attempt to bring banned items through the checkpoints are subject to civil penalties of up to $1,100 per violation in addition to criminal penalties.
While the above items are strictly prohibited from being carried into the aircraft cabin, many may be transported in checked baggage with these important exceptions:
Firearms and starter pistols may be transported in checked baggage so long as they are unloaded and declared to the airline.
Small arms ammunition for personal use may be carried in checked baggage but only if securely packed in fiber, wood or metal boxes, or other packaging specifically designed to carry small amounts of ammunition.
One self-defense spray (pepper spray or mace) not exceeding 4 fl. oz. may be carried in a checked bag if it has a positive means to prevent accidental discharge.
Blasting caps, compressed air guns, fire extinguishers, flare pistols, and gun lighters are regulated as hazardous materials and may only be transported as cargo on passenger planes under strict limitations in quantity and packaging.
Other items listed above are entirely forbidden in air transportation. These include disabling chemicals or gases, dynamite, gunpowder, hand grenades, plastic explosives, road flares, and tear gas.
Passengers should also note that there are many items not referred to here that are restricted or forbidden as hazardous materials.
For more information go to http://www.tsa.dot.gov or call your airline as individual airlines may place additional restrictions on any item. You may also call the Hazardous Materials Information Center 1-800-467-4922. Violations of the hazardous materials regulations may result in fines of up to $27,500 per violation, as well as criminal fines and/or jail.
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http://www.dot.gov/affairs/tsa0702.htm
It says:
Items prohibited from aircraft cabins:
The following items will not be allowed through the security checkpoint. Please note that this list is not all-inclusive. In addition to items specifically listed here, other items that may be deemed to present a potential threat may also be prohibited.
Ammunition
Automatic weapons
Axes
Baseball bats
BB guns
Billy clubs
Blackjacks
Blasting caps
Bows and arrows
Box cutters
Brass knuckles
Bull whips
Cattle prods
Compressed air guns
Corkscrews
Cricket bats
Crow bars
Disabling chemicals or gases
Dog repellent spray
Dynamite
Fire extinguishers
Flare pistols
Golf clubs
Gun lighters
Gunpowder
Hammers
Hand grenades
Hatchets
Hockey sticks
Hunting knives
Ice axe/Ice pick
Knives (any length)
Kubatons
Large, heavy tools (such as wrenches, pliers, etc.)
Mace
Martial arts devices
Meat cleavers
Metal scissors with pointed tips
Numchucks
Pellet guns
Pen knives
Pepper spray
Pistols
Plastic explosives
Pool cues
Portable power drills
Portable power saws
Razor blades (not in a cartridge)
Religious knives
Replica weapons
Revolvers
Rifles
Road flares
SCUBA knives
Sabers
Screwdrivers
Shot guns
Ski poles
Spear guns
Starter pistols
Straight razors
Stun guns/shocking devices
Swords
Tear gas
Throwing stars
Toy transformer robots (this toy forms a toy gun)
Toy weapons
Passengers should be aware that there are no provisions for returning banned items to them when they are left at the security checkpoint. In addition, those who attempt to bring banned items through the checkpoints are subject to civil penalties of up to $1,100 per violation in addition to criminal penalties.
While the above items are strictly prohibited from being carried into the aircraft cabin, many may be transported in checked baggage with these important exceptions:
Firearms and starter pistols may be transported in checked baggage so long as they are unloaded and declared to the airline.
Small arms ammunition for personal use may be carried in checked baggage but only if securely packed in fiber, wood or metal boxes, or other packaging specifically designed to carry small amounts of ammunition.
One self-defense spray (pepper spray or mace) not exceeding 4 fl. oz. may be carried in a checked bag if it has a positive means to prevent accidental discharge.
Blasting caps, compressed air guns, fire extinguishers, flare pistols, and gun lighters are regulated as hazardous materials and may only be transported as cargo on passenger planes under strict limitations in quantity and packaging.
Other items listed above are entirely forbidden in air transportation. These include disabling chemicals or gases, dynamite, gunpowder, hand grenades, plastic explosives, road flares, and tear gas.
Passengers should also note that there are many items not referred to here that are restricted or forbidden as hazardous materials.
For more information go to http://www.tsa.dot.gov or call your airline as individual airlines may place additional restrictions on any item. You may also call the Hazardous Materials Information Center 1-800-467-4922. Violations of the hazardous materials regulations may result in fines of up to $27,500 per violation, as well as criminal fines and/or jail.
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Dang I wanted to bring my mace with me to greece!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Sorry for dredging up a really OLD thread, but is a bullwhip considered a "Martial Arts Wwapon?" cause it looks like we can carry them on again.
http://www.tsa.gov/travelers/airtravel/ ... items.shtm
http://www.tsa.gov/travelers/airtravel/ ... items.shtm
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I'd be very anxious to know this as well since I'll be flying back to the states in a month.hollywood1340 wrote:Sorry for dredging up a really OLD thread, but is a bullwhip considered a "Martial Arts Wwapon?" cause it looks like we can carry them on again.
http://www.tsa.gov/travelers/airtravel/ ... items.shtm
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I don't think it can be carried on the plane but it can be checked in. So it and maybe something like a replica gun would have to remain in your suitcase.
The only thing that scares me about that is the airlines loosing the luggage. I'd hate to have a DM whip and have it vanish along with the rest of my gear thanks to some stupid airline.
The only thing that scares me about that is the airlines loosing the luggage. I'd hate to have a DM whip and have it vanish along with the rest of my gear thanks to some stupid airline.
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Here's the thing that cracks me up. How in the world could a bullwhip be any kind of a threat if carried onboard? Especially an 8 or 10ft version??
That would be like trying to crack one in a small closet.....that's even IF you get the thing uncoiled in time before the other passengers jump you and beat the @#$% out of you.......Out of all the hijackings that have occured over the years I have never heard of ONE being pulled off with the use of whips!
That would be like trying to crack one in a small closet.....that's even IF you get the thing uncoiled in time before the other passengers jump you and beat the @#$% out of you.......Out of all the hijackings that have occured over the years I have never heard of ONE being pulled off with the use of whips!
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What? You mean you can’t throw a 8 or 10 ft bullwhip in a small confined area? Some one needs clearly more practice! Still the length of the whip aside, the handle end of and Indiana Jones style bullwhip is i essentially a lead weighted club.Pitfall Harry wrote:Here's the thing that cracks me up. How in the world could a bullwhip be any kind of a threat if carried onboard? Especially an 8 or 10ft version??
That would be like trying to crack one in a small closet.....that's even IF you get the thing uncoiled in time before the other passengers jump you and beat the @#$% out of you.......Out of all the hijackings that have occured over the years I have never heard of ONE being pulled off with the use of whips!
I’d much rather be able to take them as carry on when i fly, just so they don’t get damaged, lost or stolen but even if whips don’t show up listed or classified as a weapon, 99.9 % of airline security agents will consider them one especially in today’s world. It's best to just pack them well in your luggage as I’ve heard some stories of enthusiastic security personal, happy to confiscate pricy high quality bullwhips from carry on baggage including one female guard who was anxious to add it to her own collection!
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You can choke someone with your hands too. And a thumb through each eye will probably hurt just as much as a knife or pen doing the same thing. Soon airlines will be flying jail cells with each passenger completely restrained for the duration of their flights.Division 6 wrote:You can choke someone with it.
I'm just sayin'...
Nobody said it had to be a long whip. A short whip thats 4 foot is fast and would easily crack on a plane. I can crack a 8 foot whip in my living room and not hit anything.
I much rather have security be stingy. Last thing I want is them going "We figured it wasn't dangerous" and then somebody using it as a weapon. Last thing we need.
People aren't very well educated on whips like we are so realistically to outsiders, it's possible to use a whip on a plane (which really isn't far fetched)
I much rather have security be stingy. Last thing I want is them going "We figured it wasn't dangerous" and then somebody using it as a weapon. Last thing we need.
People aren't very well educated on whips like we are so realistically to outsiders, it's possible to use a whip on a plane (which really isn't far fetched)
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Well, I guess it's a no win when traveling with a good whip on an airline.......You can either pack it with your luggage and HOPE the idiots don't loose it OR you can have some kinky security officer take it from you......
At least I have a little bit better understanding of what I will have to deal with IF I choose to fly and bring one with me.
Thanks guys.
At least I have a little bit better understanding of what I will have to deal with IF I choose to fly and bring one with me.
Thanks guys.