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Whip hanging from web belt in Indy 4?

Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 11:53 am
by DAVIDUGLY
In Crystal Skull, when Indy and gang escape from the first truck truck and jump over to the duck, Indy is wearing his whip as usual, only he no longer has his gun belt with the whip holder thingy on it. His whip is at his side like this for the rest of the film, web belt only.
So how is he still carrying his whip on his hip?
I thought the whip hangy thing was on his gun holster belt.

Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 11:57 am
by DAVIDUGLY
oops ok this has already been addressed, sorry.

Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 11:59 am
by IndianaBogart
Ummm....just so you'll know....it's called a 'whip holder'. Just thought that might be helpful. :oops:

Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 2:50 pm
by knibs7
IndianaBogart wrote:Ummm....just so you'll know....it's called a 'whip holder'. Just thought that might be helpful. :oops:
lol

NIBS

Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 3:00 pm
by maboot38
I'd also be curious to find out what happened to that funny gun holster looking type thingy that he had attached to that brown leather belt type of strap that he had on. I wish he had kept it. It looked so good and really matched that brown felt head covering article that he always wore with his brown sleeved thing that looks like a shirt only thicker and was usually worn over his shirt.

Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 3:30 pm
by IndianaBogart
I'd also be curious to find out what happened to that funny gun holster looking type thingy that he had attached to that brown leather belt type of strap that he had on. I wish he had kept it. It looked so good and really matched that brown felt head covering article that he always wore with his brown sleeved thing that looks like a shirt only thicker and was usually worn over his shirt.
:lol: :rolling:

Seriously though, easy guys, we all know what it was like to be new to the whole Indy gear thing. [-X

Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 3:40 pm
by maboot38
Ha ha ha. All in good fun. I've been on here for a while now and I still make some pretty great gaffes. I would hope that when I do, someone makes fun of me in a hillarious fashion as well.

No malice intended. Just kidding around.

I think the whole idea of him grabbing his whip but not his belt and holster to be pretty silly, both from a story perspective and a moviemaking perspective, but that's neither here nor there.

It looks like his whip is hanging off of his web belt. I've tried it. Theoretically, it would work, and certainly would be the best option when going over 3 waterfalls in a duck boat.

Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 4:42 pm
by IndianaBogart
I've tried it too. It's actually more comfortable IMO, however I think if someone did that all the time like Indy, then the web belt would have a very short life.

Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 4:45 pm
by maboot38
I'm sure it isn't good for the whip either.

Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 4:54 pm
by IndianaBogart
What do you mean? :-k

Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 4:57 pm
by maboot38
Well, considering whips should be hung uncoiled to begin with, start by coiling the whip on the belt, then add that it is now pressed directly against the body so that it is heated non-uniformly. Over time, I can imagine that it isn't the healthiest way to wear a whip.

I'm not saying wearing it off your belt for an evening is going to ruin it, but I think in order to keep the whip where it needs to be, the belt would need to be tight, which could pinch the whip out of shape slightly.

Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 5:03 pm
by IndianaBogart
I'm not trying to be smart, (just confused) but are you saying that if it was hanging off the gunbelt then it would be better for the whip?

Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 7:37 pm
by maboot38
If it was hanging in a whip holder, it would hang more naturally than if it is wound and pulled toward the body with the web belt.

Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 7:44 pm
by IndianaBogart
Well the whip is in the whip holder. The whip holder is just on his web belt.

Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 8:06 pm
by Ronski
IndianaBogart wrote:I've tried it too. It's actually more comfortable IMO, however I think if someone did that all the time like Indy, then the web belt would have a very short life.
They might not look tough, but web belts are incredibly long lasting. I've been wearing the same one for probably close to 20 years, and my grandfather used it with his military uniform before that. I almost always have my leatherman on it and it hasn't failed me yet. Looks like ####, but hasn't failed.

Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 9:12 pm
by maboot38
Now I get where the disconnect is. I was thinking about the web belt passed through the whip itself, INSTEAD of the holder on the belt, which is why I was saying it wouldn't be idea.

Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 10:41 pm
by IndianaBogart
They might not look tough, but web belts are incredibly long lasting. I've been wearing the same one for probably close to 20 years, and my grandfather used it with his military uniform before that. I almost always have my leatherman on it and it hasn't failed me yet. Looks like ####, but hasn't failed.
I definitely know that they're tough, I'm just saying with a heavy whip, such as a Morgan or Jacka hanging off of it and bouncing around, etc. it might put some wear on it very quick. :-k But yes, they're VERY tough.

Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 12:52 am
by knibs7
That's why Indy started wearing his holder on his web belt and then just threaded his gun belt through the whip holder right along with the web belt.

NIBS

Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 10:01 am
by maboot38
Gee, I thought it was just because the costume department had a lousy memory!

KOTCS Whip Holder

Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 2:16 pm
by Wade Egan
Easy fellas, not everyone is as knowledgeable about the gear details as us die hards. The whip holder went through four transformations being different in all four of the films. The latest, KOTCS, holder looks something like the one below and can be worn on the web belt or the gun belt as needed.

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Though I'm guessing that if they make another film, Indy won't have a whip or a gun at all as they seem to be making the films more 'kid-friendly' and less violent. Notice in KOTCS he uses his whip twice and never fires a shot with the pistol. :-k