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HJ poet from Swales, your pics please.
Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 5:25 pm
by Dutch_jones
I've read countless times people who have gotten a HJ from Swales, but I would love to see some pictures so please post them here
thanks.
Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 9:08 pm
by whipwarrior
I don't have my AB yet, but this request I CAN do! Here's my beautiful hand-crafted Swales Poet made in April/May 1999:
The rest of the pics are in my flickr HJ photo set:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/9911326@N0 ... 802192589/
Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 10:37 pm
by RNomura
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Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 11:48 pm
by jasonalun
whipwarrior,
That's one gorgeous hat! Thanks for posting that. I love the front ribbon flourish. Not really Indy, of course, but nice!
That's seems like one tall crown. I was trying to compare it with my FedIV that I have bashed in a similar fashion and the crown on mine just doesn't seem anywhere tall enough to get close to that look. The FedIV crown is supposed to be 5 5/8" open crowned, and mine is 5" roughly when bashed. Can you tell me what the crown height is on yours? It could just be the block shape that makes the difference, though. The front of the HJ crown seems to have a bit more beef in it than the FedIV's does.
Again, beautiful hat! I'm jealous...
Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 12:07 am
by whipwarrior
The very front crown of my hat measures exactly 4 1/2 inches tall. When I punched the top of the hat outward (open crown), the height measurement is exactly 5 inches. The hat size is 6 and 7/8. I've been told that my hat is one of the finer examples of a HJ Poet that has come out of the shop, and I do love it very much, but I am just
dying to get my Adventurebilt CS!
Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 12:50 am
by jasonalun
Thanks ww! Wow, I guess I really stink at estimating size in photos. I would have almost sworn that was close to 5" at the front!
My FedIV is exactly 4 1/2" at the front as well. So perhaps my theory of the fuller front to the block near the top curve is correct.
I tried to replicate your shot with mine, so you can see what I'm talking about. Your crown seems narrower in width, and the top left edge of the front crease kind of hangs out a bit over the bottom curve of the crown on that side. Makes a nice look - kind of reminds me of this scene in Last Crusade :
http://www.theraider.net/showimage.php? ... ts/083.jpg
That hat's got a ton of character!
Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 1:04 am
by whipwarrior
I modeled it on the Venice pier scene (the way the side brims are curled up cowboy-style). I hand-shaped the felt over a pot of boiling water on the stove, and then let it dry. It's been holding that shape for about six years now. At least the AB comes styled right out of the box, so there's no work involved.
Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 1:08 am
by BendingOak
WW, did you bow ever get replaced?
Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 1:11 am
by jasonalun
I've always liked the Venice pier look.
Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 8:41 am
by whipwarrior
No, that's the original bow, complete with that strange front flare. I'm not sure if Swales was in a hurry when he put it on, or what, but I'm used to it by now (though if I knew anything about hat repair, I'd probably re-tack it level with the top of the ribbon). The only thing that I have physically done to the hat is repair the oval HJ crest (which is just a sticker) that peeled off during a trip to North Carolina. I bought a spool of burgundy thread that matched the color of the seal, and I sewed it back in.
hat
Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 10:30 am
by BendingOak
I haven't seen a bow racket on one of the HJ fromhim or anyone like that. Its not a had fix. Take out the liner and you would have to redo a couple of stitches. I would have to see a true side shot to tell you more.
Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 10:43 am
by whipwarrior
If you click on the Flickr link under the hat pics, you can see a direct side shot of the hat.
Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 10:54 am
by Dutch_jones
Thanks for sharing your pictures gentlemen !
Keep em coming there have to be more than just you two?
Rmonura do you have pictures of the other Poets also?
Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 2:27 pm
by BoilermakerJones
Love your hat whipwarrior!
Matt
Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 3:10 pm
by whipwarrior
Thanks!
Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 8:08 pm
by ReturningSon
Does Swales still style and make these hats?
Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 8:42 pm
by Strider
ReturningSon wrote:Does Swales still style and make these hats?
No, he's retired.
Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 8:42 pm
by whipwarrior
No, Swales retired from hatmaking and left Herbert Johnson back in 2003. Shame, too, because nobody did it like him.