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What kind of MKVII is this?

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 8:18 am
by Tremolo
Hi,
today I got this bag here. The markings say MK VII P.S.1943 but some things like the buttons, the vents and metal disk are different than on the other bags I´ve seen. Is this just another version of it or something different? It´s a great bag even if it isn´t SA, I´m just curios. :roll:

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Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 8:31 am
by binkmeisterRick
I've seen one of these before, but don't remember the details that surfaced on the bag. Wait for Swindiana to chime in. He's our resident bag expert.

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 8:33 am
by gwyddion
That is what some call a "civilian" Mk VII. I don't know if it was actualy useds by civillians, but that's the only name I heard for it. The E-bay seller I bought one of my Mk VII's from had these on offer for a lower price and some people here bought those. It might be an early form of the Mk VII or a late form of the Mk VI as it has the D-ring instead of the lanyard disk. How many drainage holes does it have on the bottem?

Anyway, good to see that you left the orriginal strap attached. I don't know if this version is more rare than the SA Mk VII, but I personaly have not seen one with a flap closure like this one, so if not SA, it is a cool bit of WW II memorabilia.

Regards, Geert

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 8:42 am
by Tremolo
Thanks for the info!
I couldn´t bringt over me to cut that old strap. It has 8 holes on the button.

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 8:54 am
by gwyddion
Tremolo wrote: It has 8 holes on the button.
:-s do you mean 8 holes on the bottom of the bag, or something else? :?

regards, geert

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 8:59 am
by Tremolo
Oh sorry bottom not button ;-)
Yes it has 8 drainage holes on the bottom of the bag.

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 9:17 am
by gwyddion
8 of these?

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wow, I've never heard of a bag that had more than 3 of these....

Regards, Geert

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 9:24 am
by Swindiana
Some of those were issued to India and/or Africa I believe. (I think I remember somone seing a broad arrow mark with and "I" on it indicating just that.)

The drainage holes are air vents. ;)

Does it have either of these?

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Guesses have been made that the correct hardware wasn't available outside the UK at the factories and they opted for this config instead.

Neat bag!

8 of these;
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Regards,
Swindiana

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 9:24 am
by Tremolo
no, 8 small holes.
8 of the big ones would look funny :shock:

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Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 9:24 am
by binkmeisterRick
Yep, they exist. I want to say they're India makes, but I can't recall off the top of my head. Again, once Swindiana sees this thread, he should be able to shed more light on the subject.

EDIT: And JUST as I was writing this, guess who shows up to the party! :lol:

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 9:27 am
by Swindiana
;)

Hey buddy!

Regards,
Swindiana

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 9:29 am
by gwyddion
Seems to me you've got a nice piece of history there Tremolo. Good thing you left that strap on there :)

Regards, Geert

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 9:34 am
by Tremolo
Thanks, that´s all very interesting. Do you think it´s to valuable to really use it? I planned to take it to college in some weeks.

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 10:02 am
by gwyddion
I wouldn't know. But if I were you, I'd order another one or a replica for that so you could keep this one safe.

Regards, Geert

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 10:18 am
by Tremolo
yeah, I think I´m gonna order another one or better one of the more common Mk VIIs

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 11:50 am
by BroadSword
I've got one of those that Swindiana posted above. Need a correct version.