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Todd's Deluxe whip...

Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 3:55 pm
by Texan Scott
Do you have any info. on Todd's Deluxe whips, as to length and quality? Photos would be great if possible. thanks.

Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 4:28 pm
by Jakk55
Do a search, there have been multiple threads on the topic.

Overall consensus: Looks good, works for the occasional crack, however is not meant to be cracked a lot, it is a costume piece, not a real whip.

Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 2:32 pm
by Puppetboy
I don't know that I've seen much discussion about my DELUXE whips, just my PROP whips, which are intended for costume use. My deluxe whips I'll put up against any other whip in it's price range for functionality.

Todd

Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 4:24 pm
by Jakk55
My apologies, for my confusion on the difference.

Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 11:52 pm
by bigrex
Puppetboy wrote:I don't know that I've seen much discussion about my DELUXE whips, just my PROP whips, which are intended for costume use. My deluxe whips I'll put up against any other whip in it's price range for functionality.

Todd
So, your deluxe whips are totally functional? I was not clear on that point until now, correct me if I'm wrong, but I think some here may have assumed the prop whip was just the older model with the "marshmallow" knob on the end while the deluxe was the newer reworked design. So, the deluxe has a tougher core and more robust leather? Just trying to promote some discussion, since I probably would have bought one if I knew beforehand this was the case. :?: When you say, price range for functionality, I guess you mean it is functional and is a great bargain for the price, but it has it's limits and that is reflected in the price, or something to that effect?

Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 12:19 am
by hollywood1340
Todd,
Just a point of clarification, you make this statement for you "Deluxe" whips
If you have done any shopping at all, you know that most whip makers charge 400+ for an 8' 12 plait bullwhip.
Now, lets say I'm looking for a whip in your price range, what am I getting and how does that equal the price I'm getting for it? Who is the maker, what is the construction method, and who is your competition? Let's say I'm not worried about getting an Indiana Jones whip, but a good starter whip.

Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 11:41 am
by rjallen70
His web site list the leather as goat.
I would be curious as to the core construction as well.
So Todd... are we talking about a urethane core this time or traditional?
Ron

Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 12:04 pm
by Puppetboy
Yes, you are correct. The whips are made in my shop under my supervision. We use custom tanned goat (that reminds me very much of kangaroo for toughness) for the covering and other high quality components. They were designed for use.

We can speculate, second guess, debate theroretical longevity until the cows come home. I maintain that my inner core is just as good as any, and probably better than many. I think before you begin to dis my deluxe whip, you should try one.

To be fair, you should ask the other whipmakers about the insides of their whips. Are they solid leather? What type of leather, and what temper? How many layers? Do they use tape? Do they use splices? Do they use any rope? Lead shot? Cloth? Spiral-wrapped bolsters or straight? Taped, wraped with string, or stitched? Rawhide or cane transition from the handle? Every whip maker has their own system and you can debate forever which is better.

Whether my deluxe whips are worth $199 is a subjective matter. I think they are, and apparently so do the customers who have them. So far, no one has returned one.

But make sure to note that the "prop" whip and the "deluxe" whip are two different things (and two different prices). I have re-written the copy on the website to make this clearer.

Thanks!

Todd

Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 12:11 pm
by IndyFalco
Todd,
Will you ever make a deluxe 10 foot whip? What if I were to call in as a special order, would you make one or consider it in the future?

Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 12:30 pm
by Puppetboy
Yes, I may offer a 10' in the future.

Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 1:48 pm
by Shagbd
Todd, I sent you a PM with a proposal.......

Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 9:00 pm
by Texan Scott
Todd,

Do you make a braded 10 foot-er? If so, quantos? ;-)