Just as an attempt to educate myself, I was wondering if there are any owners of one or both of whips from these two makers that might offer some sort of feedback.
I'm looking for physical discrepencies as well as handling differences. As far as asthetics, I can basically evaluate that category myself, but having never handled a whip, I was just wondering what the common opinions were...
Thanks guys and gals.
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i dont have a Jacka YET, but as I understand it, they are really totally different in their approach to how a whip handles...
again, this is just second hand knowledge, but from what little I have seen of Terrys work, i consider it very different from Bernardos...
sorta apples and Oranges here...... not really comparable
again, this is just second hand knowledge, but from what little I have seen of Terrys work, i consider it very different from Bernardos...
sorta apples and Oranges here...... not really comparable
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Terry and Bernardo both make outstanding quality whips. I never have any problem recommending either whip maker, but those two gentlemen make their whips to work best for how they feel a whip should perform and for that reason they are made and handle very differently in comparison.
Terry makes his whips a bit differently then most whip makers anyway, so aside from the longer handles which are typical of his whips and helps to adds leverage while throwing (Common with Australian bullwhips so they perform more like stock whips) he uses a characteristic he refers to as “progressive flexibility”. This causes his bullwhips to start off very stiff as the thong (the main body of the plaited whip) leaves the handle. Gradually the whip becomes more flexible the further down the thong you travel. This feature gives them a very unique feel and action; unlike most other bullwhips on the market and is a big part of their charm. As they become broken it that stiffness becomes less distinct but its still very much there and provides a spring loaded feel to the whip and adds a considerable amount of energy and leverage in the throw, allowing for a very easy, fast and responsive action which is useful in multiple cracking and for more complex combination cracks. This design also places less stress over that handle/thong transition area during that type of use as the heavy flexing in that area of the whip is distributed out more evenly and gradually. The weight of his bullwhips is distributed differently as well, they are made with lighter fiberglass handle section with very little lead weight in the butt end of the whip so that majority of the weight of the whip further into the thong itself.
Bernardo’s bullwhips are beautifully made and are built very much like the traditionally classic David Morgan 450 series (Indy) bullwhips. Those are the type of whips he likes to make and as such they are designed with a short, more heavily weighted handle and a moderately heavy thong common in American style bullwhips. The shorter handle causes the whip to loose some leverage but the weight of the lead loaded steel spike handle foundation used acts to counter balance to the weight of the thong so the weight of the whip is more evenly distributed and balanced out over the entire whip end to end. The thong itself curves and drops relatively quicker right from the handle though, producing a sharper flexing in that area. This is common trait in that classic Indy style bullwhip, but it also causes more stress in that junction between the handle and the thong during use. So for those reasons these style bullwhips are know to have a have a somewhat slower action and are really best used with direct throws and very little wrist action making them less suited for those intricate fast multiple cracking combinations that the Australian whips are known for.
That is a very basic comparison based on their overall bullwhip production. You can read more about how the classic Indy bullwhips like Bernardo makes compare to the way Terry makes his bullwhips in the main bullwhip section of Indygear. There are also many subtle differences in the way they cut their sets & laces, drop strands and finish the whip and tie their fall hitches, etc. though too.
For a more specific with a comparison between their Kingdom of the Crystal Skull bullwhips, Bernardo puts a lot of effort into making his version look right and perform well. While in many ways his CS bullwhips looks nearly identical to the movie bullwhips Terry made, again there are differences. Bernardo models his version closely after Terry’s Australian bullwhip but builds them using the more traditional methods of construction of the Indy bullwhips that David Morgan developed. Terry’s CS bullwhips are built much more robustly compared to his Australian bullwhips. The transition area is thicker, more heavily reinforced drawn out further then those whips. The overlay seems to be also is cut more heavily and the whip itself is just alot heavier with more substantial beefy feel, but that extra heft also kills some of the speed and quickness his Australian models are known for.
Dan
Terry makes his whips a bit differently then most whip makers anyway, so aside from the longer handles which are typical of his whips and helps to adds leverage while throwing (Common with Australian bullwhips so they perform more like stock whips) he uses a characteristic he refers to as “progressive flexibility”. This causes his bullwhips to start off very stiff as the thong (the main body of the plaited whip) leaves the handle. Gradually the whip becomes more flexible the further down the thong you travel. This feature gives them a very unique feel and action; unlike most other bullwhips on the market and is a big part of their charm. As they become broken it that stiffness becomes less distinct but its still very much there and provides a spring loaded feel to the whip and adds a considerable amount of energy and leverage in the throw, allowing for a very easy, fast and responsive action which is useful in multiple cracking and for more complex combination cracks. This design also places less stress over that handle/thong transition area during that type of use as the heavy flexing in that area of the whip is distributed out more evenly and gradually. The weight of his bullwhips is distributed differently as well, they are made with lighter fiberglass handle section with very little lead weight in the butt end of the whip so that majority of the weight of the whip further into the thong itself.
Bernardo’s bullwhips are beautifully made and are built very much like the traditionally classic David Morgan 450 series (Indy) bullwhips. Those are the type of whips he likes to make and as such they are designed with a short, more heavily weighted handle and a moderately heavy thong common in American style bullwhips. The shorter handle causes the whip to loose some leverage but the weight of the lead loaded steel spike handle foundation used acts to counter balance to the weight of the thong so the weight of the whip is more evenly distributed and balanced out over the entire whip end to end. The thong itself curves and drops relatively quicker right from the handle though, producing a sharper flexing in that area. This is common trait in that classic Indy style bullwhip, but it also causes more stress in that junction between the handle and the thong during use. So for those reasons these style bullwhips are know to have a have a somewhat slower action and are really best used with direct throws and very little wrist action making them less suited for those intricate fast multiple cracking combinations that the Australian whips are known for.
That is a very basic comparison based on their overall bullwhip production. You can read more about how the classic Indy bullwhips like Bernardo makes compare to the way Terry makes his bullwhips in the main bullwhip section of Indygear. There are also many subtle differences in the way they cut their sets & laces, drop strands and finish the whip and tie their fall hitches, etc. though too.
For a more specific with a comparison between their Kingdom of the Crystal Skull bullwhips, Bernardo puts a lot of effort into making his version look right and perform well. While in many ways his CS bullwhips looks nearly identical to the movie bullwhips Terry made, again there are differences. Bernardo models his version closely after Terry’s Australian bullwhip but builds them using the more traditional methods of construction of the Indy bullwhips that David Morgan developed. Terry’s CS bullwhips are built much more robustly compared to his Australian bullwhips. The transition area is thicker, more heavily reinforced drawn out further then those whips. The overlay seems to be also is cut more heavily and the whip itself is just alot heavier with more substantial beefy feel, but that extra heft also kills some of the speed and quickness his Australian models are known for.
Dan