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What's the story with this one?
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 8:27 am
by coronado3
Anyone? What is "soft" goatskin? Is it the same as their regular goat?????
Anyone buy one yet? I wonder if the body is longer as in the lamb ROLA special.... Peter?
Wested - Special Offer Raiders ROLA Soft Goatskin
This special offer comes in soft 'Authentic' brown Goatskin
This authentic copy from 'Raiders of the Lost Ark' specifications include two-way pockets, action pleats for arm movement, side vents,
Unlike the Standard raiders which has slight modification to make it durable and street wearable this 'film jacket' although equally wearable is more lightweight.
There are no inside leather facings, the body is slimmer and the sleeves more tapered. The zip is a smaller 5 gauge nickel and the action pleat depth is narrower with two piped inside pockets.
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 8:34 am
by gwyddion
I don't know about the leather, but it should be an 80's cut and be in Long sizing as it is a ROLA Special.
I would love to hear more about the leather as well.
Regards, Geert
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 8:45 am
by Holt
I had one byt I sent it back cause it was too long.
the leather is incredible soft and a little thinner then their standard goat.
I had a 46 and the back length was 27.5''
bests
Holt
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 9:23 am
by coronado3
Holt
Did you take any pics before sending it back?
What did the pockets look like?
Was the stormflap/collar stand correct?
Also, is the hide textured or smooth?
C3
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 5:07 pm
by Holt
its a normal goat hide surface.pebley..
the pockets was 8X7 I think.
the stormflap and stand was pretty good
the armholes was really small though...well to small for me...
sorry no pictures
Holt
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 5:18 pm
by Doug C
There have always only been two ROLA jacket, this is one of them. I think the "soft" part of the disciption means nothing, it's the same goatskin as the others they sell I'm sure because that's true of the other ROLA offering (authentic brown lambskin). Whiskeyman had one and has recently put it up for sale (his had shoulder pads).
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Doug C
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 5:27 pm
by Holt
there are two goat hides..I am pretty sure of it.
I had a standard jacket in goat and a ROLA special in goat.
the standard jacket had a much thicker goat hide.
the rola had a sligthly thinner feel to it,and draped so much better then my standard goat jacket....
of course I cant say I am 100% covinced that they use different goathides.....it could just be a thinner batch they used on that jacket..
but I am pretty sure....
Holt
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 5:38 pm
by Kt Templar
The old style goatskin that was popular but was discontinued due to sizing problems was quite thick and pebbley, heavier than say a novapelle jacket.
To distinguish that from the current goat, he's calling the new stuff "soft goat" and he's absolutely right, it's soft, thin and pliable, slightly pebbly but it's another one that feels almost like lamb. But has the extra toughness of being goat.
Bad pics, but they show the draping quality of this leather.
The lower pic is the better colour repro.
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 5:43 pm
by Doug C
So then that's it, there is only one goatskin being used now...both standard and ROLA.
Doug C
Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 10:14 am
by coronado3
KT
is the jacket in the photo one of the special offer ROLA goat?
Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 11:07 am
by jacksdad
How thick was the old goat, I got my otr in June,so is it the new or old stuff? I compared it to my cooper a-2 and it seemed just as thick. I have a g-1 from the 70's it's not as thick as that jacket. By the way anyone intersted in a g-1 size 42 true 42 pm me. I would love to trade it to someone who would wear it, the jacket just sits in my closet,it's way way let me say again way too small for me.
Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 11:30 am
by CM
The old goat was thick as goat should be. Goat is light anyway and drapes really well. Thin goat sounds... deficient.
Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 12:24 pm
by Kt Templar
coronado3 wrote:KT
is the jacket in the photo one of the special offer ROLA goat?
Yes, I believe so.
Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 1:01 pm
by Doug C
Goat was unavailable in a Wested for a long time after they depleated their initial supplies.. so the old goat probably refers to that initial stock. Only recently has goat become available again at Wested... and it's apparently softer than before.
Doug C
Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 12:40 pm
by coronado3
Anyone get one of these yet?
Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 12:47 pm
by Rundquist
Kt Templar wrote:The old style goatskin that was popular but was discontinued due to sizing problems was quite thick and pebbley, heavier than say a novapelle jacket.
To distinguish that from the current goat, he's calling the new stuff "soft goat" and he's absolutely right, it's soft, thin and pliable, slightly pebbly but it's another one that feels almost like lamb. But has the extra toughness of being goat.
Bad pics, but they show the draping quality of this leather.
The lower pic is the better colour repro.
That's sort have been my position lately about goatskin over lambskin. I have a few goatskin jackets that are so soft, thin, & pliable that they could almost pass for lambskin. Plus you get the strength. It really depends on the skin. Cheers
PS- Plus your jacket's not even broken in yet.
Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 1:45 pm
by St. Dumas
coronado3 wrote:Anyone get one of these yet?
I received a custom goatskin CS jacket in June. It's not the washed goat. As KT indicated, it's considerably thinner than Wested's previous batch of goat. I like the thin goat, but I preferred the thicker goat. It doesn't even seem like the same type of hide, except for the texture. Both seem to be about as pebbled.
Either way, it's clearly a tough hide, and I don't expect it to distress very easily. In fact, it might never look distressed, even after years of wear. I also think the base is a lot darker than than lamb, so even if it did distress, it probably wouldn't be as visible. It does drape more like the lamb than did the previous stock of goat.
SD