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JPD on order!
Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 12:02 am
by Indiana Green
I am very happy to say that my first custom Indy fedora is on order from Jimmy. I just got off the phone with him a few minutes ago (super nice guy!) and he said it'd be here in about 6 weeks. After seeing all the awesome looking JPD's on here, I couldn't be more excited. Thanks Jimmy!
Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 12:14 am
by indy89
Congratulations on your order! What kind of furfelt did you choose?
Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 1:22 am
by gabrielle
Nice choice there with a JPD!!! You will love the hat, the bash is fantastic and I love the color...
Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 1:25 am
by Indiana Green
I got the rabbit 'cuz I can't afford beaver. I'm still very happy though. I can't wait to have a new hat!
Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 1:17 pm
by indy89
That's great, Green! How much are the JPD beaver fedoras going for?
Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 1:24 pm
by gabrielle
I paid $160 for rabbit and the beaver is $325 I believe. Jimmy is redesigning his website so the prices might be listed there...
http://www.jimmypiercedesigns.com/
I went there and found this under DRESS HATS/FEDORAS
Beaver Felt
Black, Dark Grey, Sahara, Pecan, Brown, Natural, Navy
$325
Rabbit Felt
Black, Steel Grey, Granite Grey, Sahara, Pecan, Dark Moss, Brown, Navy
$160
Bound edge - Welt edge
$20
Shipping
$15
Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 1:25 am
by Indiana Green
Yep, $160 plus shipping. More than worth it, from the looks of it!
Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 2:10 pm
by DeLoreanDMC81
Did he raise the prices on his hats? If I remember correctly I thought they were $125? Although I'm sure it's like everything else, slowly going up in price.
James
Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 2:25 pm
by The Aviator
thats a nice delorean there...I'm in the Uk club fantastic cars!!
Yeah your right about JP's prices they have gone up but so has everything really
Cheers
Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 6:44 pm
by JPdesign
South american felt is still $125.
Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 8:13 pm
by The Aviator
Jimmy what is the main differences in felt quality between the two felts?
Cheers
Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 9:30 pm
by JPdesign
The south american felt comes from Cury, a supposed supplier to herbert Johnson in the early 80s. The U.S. felt comes from winchester, where at least 90% of custom hatters in the U.S. get their felt. THe Winchester felt is a standard dress weight body, approx. 4.5 oz. The Cury felt is heavier, because I ordered it that way, approx 6 oz. or comparison, a standard western hat is about 8 oz. The cury is also slightly less dense. This actually aides in have a slightly thicker felt that is still flexible. While your everyday hat wearer might possibly realize there is something different other than thickness, the will most likely not know what that other thing is.
If you put a bunch of steam to the Cury, or soak it and manipulate the felt it is more likely to shrink than the winchester. I have not had a problem with getting it wet and letting it dry without manipulating the felt, or using just enough steam to soften the felt and shaping it, with out it shrinking. But it is not as forgiving at the Winchester felt. That said, it seems to be more durable. Tapering and durability are two different things, though most people seem to lump them together. A hat can taper and still take a beating without tearing. that being said, If you do not soak it and try to reshape it, and if you do not try to over steam it, it is a perfectly servicable hat.
I have found that I can do odd things with it. I have a concentrated high pressure steam spot and can shrink just parts of the hat if the shape calls for it. If I over steam just on the sides, right above the ribbon those spots will shrink and sink in, it developes a great mushroom effect. I also use this felt for a Good, bad, and Ugly hat for this reason. It is easy to make look beat up, But sill have a strong hat. Oh, and takes bullet holes well.
Jimmy
Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 7:42 am
by genphideaux
Jimmy,
Thanks for the explanation, always wondered what the difference was. I sometimes wish I had gotten a rabbit first just to see the difference but after the months of wearing the 100% beaver I fear this will never happen. Not that I’m upset or anything.
Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 1:07 pm
by gabrielle
As nice as rabbit is, I think if beaver was the same price we'd all be wearing the beaver...just because it's heartier and more waterproof.
Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 1:10 pm
by Michaelson
...and let me tell you from personal experience, Jimmy's 100% beaver felt is WONDERFUL stuff!
Regard! Michaelson
Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 1:29 pm
by gabrielle
Michaelson wrote:...and let me tell you from personal experience, Jimmy's 100% beaver felt is WONDERFUL stuff!
Regard! Michaelson
Any chance of posting some beaver JPDs here? Would love to see the different styles and felt...
Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 1:30 pm
by Michaelson
I know there are several comparison photos floating around....but it's one of those things you have to experience by handling the hat rather than seeing a photo.
Regards !Michaelson
Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 2:31 pm
by Chewbacca Jones
genphideaux wrote:I sometimes wish I had gotten a rabbit first just to see the difference but after the months of wearing the 100% beaver I fear this will never happen. Not that I’m upset or anything.
Yeah, beaver hats can be very addictive. I don't own one by Jimmy, but my collection is mainly 100% beaver hats.
However, I find Jimmy's rabbit felt has a better finish than most, and I can almost forget that it's not beaver.
Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 2:47 pm
by gabrielle
Yes, I noticed that too. Handling my hat feels wonderful, it's so smooth. If beaver is even better then my AB is going to be something that I never take off!!! Or if I have to it won't be for long!!!
Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 3:00 pm
by btc
My JPD is one of his beaver hats.
http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn88 ... avatar.jpg
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http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn88 ... de_hat.jpg
http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn88 ... /Front.jpg
http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn88 ... blique.jpg
http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn88 ... c/side.jpg
http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn88 ... Detail.jpg
I really like it. It's held up well in the rain and other abuse I've put it through here in the Pacific NW.
But Michaelson is right, its hard to tell the differences via pictures. You really have to see them in person to compare. I know it's more expensive, but I'd go with the beaver again in a heartbeat. In fact, I'm kinda thinking about talking to Jimmy about a CS-style hat in beaver.
I'd be more than happy to take other pictures if there's something specific you'd like to see...
Brian
Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 3:07 pm
by DeLoreanDMC81
Well I'm glad to know that the $125 hat is still available. Now the big question is, which is the better one to go with the South American felt or the rabbit?
The Avaitor wrote:thats a nice delorean there...I'm in the Uk club fantastic cars!!
Yeah your right about JP's prices they have gone up but so has everything really
Cheers
Thanks for the compliment!
James
Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 3:40 pm
by gabrielle
That is a fantastic looking lid!!! Which bash is that and did you manipulate the bash at all yourself?
Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 5:31 pm
by btc
Gabrielle,
When I ordered my hat, I was most interested in the tight front pinch, but other than that, I just asked Jimmy to give me his best generic ROTLA look, and that's what I got.
No, I haven't done any bashing of it myself. I have learned over the years that the more I "Play" with something that was set, the quicker it becomes unable to return to it original condition.
So I leave things alone; although I have tweaked the brim in back a little to give more "curve" to the brim when seen in profile (i.e. the arc it makes front to back on your head).
Brian
