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Hello! from fans of the mythical brand belstaff i have not resist to tentation and I have acquired the new Indy Jacket.
The jacket for me is beautiful in every aspect and incredible quality, the jacket is made in Italy and for the joy of the fans the Belstaff logo is absent on the arm and it appears only inside of the jacket...
some pics:

Your jacket is beatiful. I have never heard of that brand before. Is the jacket a CS type style?

If you do not mind telling; how much did the jacket cost you; it looks very exspensive.

Paul.

Doeindy wrote:Your jacket is beatiful. I have never heard of that brand before. Is the jacket a CS type style?

If you do not mind telling; how much did the jacket cost you; it looks very exspensive.

Paul.

Yes Mike Jones, how much did you pay? C'mon, don't be shy, and confess!!

The one on Ebay is listed for over $2000!.......kinda makes a TN look like a great bargain!

I have problems with the pics, can open the first only...

It was only a matter of time before one of us crazy nuts got one of these!!! Congratulations, that's one fine looking jacket Mike!!!

...if I ever win the lottery, I'd be all over that!!!

Indiana Strones wrote:I have problems with the pics, can open the first only...

Me too. I can only open the first one. So, come on . . . how much was it?

I do not know because the images make hard work to open itself
as soon as I have time I try to replace them.

Thanks for the compliments, and yes, is CS type.
I have see the guy on e-bay, and it's crazy!!! I do not know the precise price, it is means gift but but approximately 1000 euros
I know that they are many but I have other jackets belstaff and they are all of extreme quality.

Hey Mike, your English is even worse than mine!

1550$ uh?

OK, here are the pics:

Mike,

that is one beautiful jacket my friend. i'm glad someone's pockets are deep enought to go for one of these babies. also, i like the inside patch better than what was originally shown (silk screen logo). where is the metal belstaff badge on the left arm though?

the jacket fits very nice on you and congratulations on owning one of these limited edition runs.

cheers,


G

That´s definitely a nice jacket. I own a Belstaff leather jacket (not an Indy Jacket) and while it´s very good quality I know I overpaid for it. I´ve seen Belstaff windbreaker jackets (all man made materials) selling for upwards of 300 Euro in Spain. I honestly think Belstaff´s are way overpriced, but if you´re happy with it, that´s all that matters.

IndianaGeo wrote:That´s definitely a nice jacket. I own a Belstaff leather jacket (not an Indy Jacket) and while it´s very good quality I know I overpaid for it. I´ve seen Belstaff windbreaker jackets (all man made materials) selling for upwards of 300 Euro in Spain. I honestly think Belstaff´s are way overpriced, but if you´re happy with it, that´s all that matters.

all of belstaff's stuff is overpriced. i can say that as i own several jackets and the shoulder bag. i have no idea why the wife let me live through these purchases.....it must be love, i guess

i would estimate that top quality accounts for about 65% of the price....the remaining 35% is definitely for the belstaff name....imo of course.

one thing i forgot to ask mike........can i have it?

Belstaff makes some awesome moto jackets... and I gotta admit their Indy jacket looks great.

Anyone have any specs on leather weight?

So who's jacket is more SA......Belstaff or TN?

Congrats on an awesome looking jacket, Mike!

Far as I'm concerned, it's worth every penny - I don't think you overpaid at all.

I'll be honest, if Belstaff did a line of the original three jackets, you couldn't stop me from going into credit card debt to pick up a Belstaff TOD and LC - simple as that.

Nice looking jacket. I'm glad they stuck the Belstaff logo inside.

Enjoy it!

Very nice jacket. I like straight edge pocket flaps . . . very SA.

Mike Jones wrote:I have acquired the new [Belstaff] Indy Jacket.

It's about time someone bucked up for one of these.

SD

Next step with a Belstaff.....distress it like crazy!

looks great and really warm, how thick is the leather and what is the linning.I thought I saw it was silk. if it is it's like the oringinal A-2's. the very first ones had silk linning but the goverment found it spotted and was too expensive. the only other a-2's that had silk were fighter pilots who became aces they had red silk linnings.well enough with the history lesson great jcket wear it in good health and enjoy.

SWEET

thanks again to all!!!!

Very nice indeed!

Cheers!

Dan

Beautiful jacket!

Ok, now it's time for a heavy sandpaper distressing!!

You crazy! will be distressed with the time.....

These are too deep for my pockets but that really is a terrific looking jacket.

Anyone has BOTH a Belstaff and a TN and would like to post pics for a comparison?

PSBIndy wrote:Anyone has BOTH a Belstaff and a TN and would like to post pics for a comparison?

Bill Gates?

Indiana Strones wrote:

PSBIndy wrote:Anyone has BOTH a Belstaff and a TN and would like to post pics for a comparison?

Bill Gates?

Well, it's certainly looks alot better than I would have thought. It seems to me like a hybrid of the RotLA and KotCS jackets, and I especially like the fact that they got rid of that tacky Belstaff sleeve patch!

It really looks good on you, and I for one am envious!

On another note though, does anyone know if this is a different jacket run than the Belstaff jacket pics originally posted, or if this is the final version of the previous jacket?

I do not know it, seems of...

At least some of the earlier ones definitely had the Belstaff badge.



I have to admit that badge is a bittersweet addition to their jackets. If they are the original designers/manufacturers that is fine to me. It tells everyone "I own a Belstaff!" But to add that badge on their version of a pre-existing jacket like the War of the Worlds jacket, the Indy jacket, etc. borders on sacreligious.

Mike Jones, that Indy jacket looks great without the badge though.

I have said this about Belstaff before and I will say it here again. I cannot say that it is founded in truth, though. And I say this although I like Belstaff a lot.

Belstaff makes most of their jackets in S, M, L , XL type sizing. They run small and they are tight. That means if you get one that fits well everywhere, and you have a beer gut, you will not be wearing a Belstaff. I believe this is quite intentional. Nothing ruins a good-looking jacket faster than a "non-model type person" wearing it.

Ergo, if you cannot fit into the jacket because you are not proportioned like a runway model, you will not wear one. If only people who are fashion model thin can wear the jackets, you will not have any Belstaffs jackets that look sloppy. No sloppy-looking jackets means Belstaff can maintain their high image. And it works.

In the fashion industry, image is everything. If you can fit into a Belstaff, odds are it will look good on you.

What makes the Indy jacket look like the Indy jacket is the proportions. Once you start widening the jacket to accomodate various people's physiques, it starts to lose the Indy look. Still a nice jacket though. I think that this is Belstaff's way of preserving the look.

I don't know.....from appearances, it doesn't look any better than a TN. And I hardly believe it to be any more durable than a TN, which is already built to last several lifetimes. Essentially, you're paying a couple thousand for the Belstaff name and a few hundered for the leather that comes with it. If this was the ACTUAL jacket Harrison wore in the film, it might be worth it but as it is, it's way overpriced for a replica jacket......an excellent one at that though still a replica.

Have to agree with PSB. Very nice jacket but most of the money is for the name. For some people that means something important, for me I would be the complete opposite because I hate the idea of "luxury" goods where you are paying for being able to brag.

rick5150 wrote:Nothing ruins a good-looking jacket faster than a "non-model type person" wearing it.

Ergo, if you cannot fit into the jacket because you are not proportioned like a runway model, you will not wear one. If only people who are fashion model thin can wear the jackets, you will not have any Belstaffs jackets that look sloppy. No sloppy-looking jackets means Belstaff can maintain their high image. And it works.

In the fashion industry, image is everything. If you can fit into a Belstaff, odds are it will look good on you.

What makes the Indy jacket look like the Indy jacket is the proportions. Once you start widening the jacket to accomodate various people's physiques, it starts to lose the Indy look. Still a nice jacket though. I think that this is Belstaff's way of preserving the look.

Way to make some of the Indy fans out there feel good about themselves and their purchases. Nice going.

Looks like a nice jacket and I usually find Belstaff and stupid high end brands and fashion generally tasteless rubbish. Good on Belstaff for picking a fine design. I doubt it will sell.

Chewie Louie wrote:Way to make some of the Indy fans out there feel good about themselves and their purchases. Nice going.

Although I admit, it is not clear, most of that post is my feeling about how Belstaff might view their garments, based on the cost, mostly rigid sizing and the fact that they are now rooted in the fashion industry. As stated, I cannot say it is founded in truth.

But I am not going to pull any punches either. The last sentence is mine for sure. If you want to argue that point, PM me and we can have at it. This is not the thread for that.

Many people here are too nice to give a really honest opinion. I can certainly respect that, but I do not agree with it. That may sound like a bad thing for me to say, but as a whole, the COW community is very complimentary. That is a wonderful trait to have and that is part of what makes COW great. But there is another side to that.

I have seen people ask opinions about jackets that are clearly 1-2 sizes too large (or small) and I wait to see how many people will tell the owner what most of us can clearly see. There are a few to be sure who will be blatantly honest (you know who you are) but most say how "great" the jacket looks.

Nothing wrong with that, but as a result, there are a lot of people walking around in public wearing ill-fitting gear.

So in the end, do you want to be coddled by everyone and wear a jacket that does not fit right - because you would rather feel good, or would you prefer an honest opinion?

And that is all it is - an opinion. And mine is as worthless as the next guy, so take that for what it is worth, of course.

I'm with you there Rick.

So much for the name .... before they made this Indy jacket, I had no idea there even was a Belstaff. Probably, this explains why paying for "the name" in this instance is lost on me. I knew there had to be companies that catered to the fashion industry, but had now idea who those were. When I heard the price, that was the ultimate turn-off for me. Belstaff is just a blip on the radar though, since it just underscores to me that for this brief moment in time, the tastes of those interested in the "latest fashion" (i.e. a "hot" new movie... latest is a curious statement for a jacket whose roots are from such an old design..) happen to coincide with those of us who've loved the look for so long.

Regarding ill-fitting gear, I have a fairly thin build (5'10" 135lbs) so I think I run into something of the reverse... "regular build" jackets like Wings version look worse on me than slimmer ones. Comparing my TN to my USWings, even though the leather is exactly the same, and the overall design is similar between the two, side by side they look so very different (even when I try to ignore the patch pocket size difference), both next to each other on the rack and on me, with TN easily the better looking of the two in this regard. I expect though, that if I had an extra 20 or so lbs on me, that my jacket preference would reverse.

If Belstaff had made an Indy replica for SUBSTANTIALLY LESS than TN, I would have bought it, probably over the TN, especially now that I know that their sizing runs smaller. Pedigree means less to me than quality, pice, and fit. I see no reason to spend that kind of dough, period... especially as long as TN's producing them too, where I get pedigree as well as a jacket that's just as good or better than the Belstaff.

I do hope the original poster gets many years of use out of his jacket though, and congrats to him on his purchase.

(edit: if Rick's opinion is worthless, then mine is of course worthmuchless, so feel free to ignore my drivel )

Well, no doubt some people have posted pictures of themselves wearing an Indy jacket where it was clearly too big or too small for them. And being the rather polite community COW is, most people usually just chime in with the "it looks great on you" comment. Consequently, you have guys wearing Indy jackets looking about as good as girls sporting "muffin tops" in their jeans. I myself once commented that someone's jacket was clearly being too big for them, and I basically got the "what the heck are you talking about, it looks fine" response from other forumites.

Where I took exception to Rick's post was his insinuation that, "once you start widening the jacket to accomodate various people's physiques, it starts to lose the Indy look" after all, "nothing ruins a good-looking jacket faster than a "non-model type person" wearing it." Maybe I am wrong, but he seemed to imply that regardless of whether it is a Belstaff, Wested, or Nowak . . . some people should not wear in Indy style jacket, because they can't pull off the look.

Hey, no sweat off my back, I stand 6'0 and tip the scales at 175. I just thought some of my beer and pizza lovin' Indy gear wearing brethren might not have been too happy with his comments.

Chewie, why give a @#$% what someone says on a message board? Not worth it.

After these clarifications I hope that yours it compliments were real
however a news of days ago, Belstaff sold more than 1000 Indy Jacket in stores and received more than 5000 orders online

Actually _ it wasn't to incite. I'd disagree that its somehow easier to simply post positive comments about how a jacket may look on someone than taking a jab at them - the Internet allows people to be much different than they would in person.

All Rick needed say was Belstaff tend to favor a slim fit and tailor their jackets as such. I think someone took exception when he seemingly implied all Indy style jackets worn by anyone other than someone with an athletic build looked bad and are therefore some sort of insult to the original jacket.

I think if people start heading down that road - getting into personal appearance - it's a bumpy one. I see some guys here who certainly aren't overweight but they sure ain't good looking either. I don't think anyone would be in favor of comments like "hey man, get some Rogaine," or "dude, do you work for the Geek Squad?"

In the end, everyone is different and if someone has something they feel good about and enjoy, what's the point in making them feel miserable about it? If someone comes on, posts a photo and asks for an honest critique about how they look that's fine. When someone comes on and says "I love my new jacket!" and get's trashed, what's the point?

I'm not going to play fashion police and make someone I don't even know feel like a schmuck because they don't look like Harrison Ford in 1983.

That's why I told him not to give a (I used the "C" word but this site doesn't seem to tolerate any remotely bad language) about it and not get worked up.

I used the "C" word but this site doesn't seem to tolerate any remotely bad language

You're absolutely right.

Regards! Michaelson

I think someone took exception when he seemingly implied all Indy style jackets worn by anyone other than someone with an athletic build looked bad and are therefore some sort of insult to the original jacket.

Is this where we're at now?

If you re-read that, you will see that the "Nothing ruins a good-looking jacket faster than a "non-model type person" wearing it" comment was not directed at Indy jackets, but Belstaff jackets in general.

I also was not saying (implying or insinuating) that people with larger builds do not look good in their jackets. What I did say is when you alter the appearance of the jacket, it starts to lose the Indy look.

I do not mind anyone taking offense to something I said - if I actually said it, that is.

Mike, what can you tell us about the Belstaff Indy jacket that is not related to price or Belstaff's infamous fit?

Did you get the jacket at the Belstaff store? How does it compare to other Belstaff jackets there? Some of the Belstaff jackets come in multiple colors and leathers, including something they call 'replica leather' (real leather, predistressed). How are the side-straps configured? Give us all the details. The jacket may be expensive, but that does not give us the right to deprive anyone who is interested about their offering.

Mike Jones wrote:After these clarifications I hope that yours it compliments were real
however a news of days ago, Belstaff sold more than 1000 Indy Jacket in stores and received more than 5000 orders online

This seems rather odd, can anyone verify this statement? 6,000 people, only 1 of whom has posted here (AFAIK) has actually bought the jacket/ordered one, at $1,600? That seems a bit hard to swallow.

Personally, it doesn't suprise me at all.

There are literally THOUSANDS of folks who have absolutely nothing to do with us or our hobby that buy these, and if you consider the clientelle that Belstaff caterers to, it's as close as they WANT to get to the Indiana Jones hobby and still look the part.

You wouldn't believe the numbers of Indy jackets that Wings has told me have gone out their door since CS came out....and believe me, barely a percentage of those folks have ever posted here.

Regards! Michaelson

bobjones wrote:

Mike Jones wrote:After these clarifications I hope that yours it compliments were real
however a news of days ago, Belstaff sold more than 1000 Indy Jacket in stores and received more than 5000 orders online

This seems rather odd, can anyone verify this statement? 6,000 people, only 1 of whom has posted here (AFAIK) has actually bought the jacket/ordered one, at $1,600? That seems a bit hard to swallow.

6000 refers to people who asked info by email, when price was not known. Now Belstaff claims this is the number of jackets sold...