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Raiders Hat Block shape

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 2:23 pm
by The Aviator
With all the talk lately of building your own hat I have began to think about the consept again...I had a flirtation with the idea a couple of years ago and actually managed to re-block my old akubra with a home made block.

I was thinking about the whole dimensional issues with the crown and was wondering if i was getting a block made what would I ask for in order to achieve a Raiders shape. Would inverted taper be built into the block design? or would the sides simply just be parrallel to each other....as well as that what about the dome shape?....if it was too level and not curved enough would this not induce taper once a bash was put into the felt? I was looking to do quite a bit of research on this for a future purchase because its something i want to get right.

As well as that what would I need to actually make a hat?lol

It's quite a bit to digest i know :lol:

Cheers

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 7:10 pm
by Indiana Kev
Well if you want to go the easy route you could always order Fedora's raiders block from Lamode.

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 7:57 pm
by Marcus Brody
You don't put reverse taper into the block, the front should be with no taper, and the profile should have maybe a bit of taper.

The dome shape is also an essential part. Too much dome is not generally the best thing to have unless you like deep center dents. Having a "flatter" dome is better for non tapered hats because less deep center dents help keep the sides from wanting to pull inwards.

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 8:03 pm
by The Aviator
Thanks Brody that clears things up a bit in my head lol...Wait a moment If I just ask for Steves Raiders Block shape from LaMode I would just get it?....Do you not need permission for something like that because of its association with AB?...Ive always been under the impression hatters hold their cards close to their chest? :wink:


Cheers

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 8:35 pm
by Indiana Kev
I believe that Steve has his old raiders block on file with Lamode for anyone to order. Now on the other hand his new CS block is under lock and key. :wink:

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 8:47 pm
by The Aviator
Yeah that makes sense :lol: ...It's probably locked away in some large drafty warehouse full of crates :wink:


My best bet is to go to LaMode then and send an e-mail, thanks for the help!! :)


Cheers

Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 3:12 pm
by Indycrazy5187
Indiana Kev wrote:Well if you want to go the easy route you could always order Fedora's raiders block from Lamode.
do you have a link for Lamode? I've been searching and can't find anything but a sports apparel website.

Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 4:28 pm
by Nobody

Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 7:15 pm
by The Aviator
Thanks Nobody that link is great i can't seem to find an e-mail address for LaMode so ill try giving him a call within the next few days.

IndyCrazy heres that link for LaMode http://www.lamodewoodhatblocks.com/Basi ... ource1.htm

Yeah I was checking out bending Oaks fedora it looks really good, ill have to give him a PM. I'm interested in getting into it as a hobby but it seems quite pricey as far as equipment goes, the block however is something im willing to put some investment into as it will pay for itself in the long term. :D

Cheers

Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 9:24 pm
by airforceindy
I just finished up my own block, and here's what I found. Mine is completely non-tapered; the only place it deviates from straight up and down is where I started carving the dome. After re-blocking an old Resistol western, I found that it looked fantastic open-crowned. My dome, as others have advised, was a little bit flat on top and side-taper was barely noticeable, if at all. The front and back, though, that was wear I had problems. The slightest bit of center dent created the makings of a prominent reverse taper in both the front and back. It seems to me that the most logical way to cure this is to taper my block, but only on the front and back. This will be a LONG process of discovery, as I don't want to overdo it and have to start over from scratch. That block was a pain in the ### to make! So, little bits at a time taken off with my sander should eventually give me the right look. I suggest trying that...

Regards, Andy