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KotCS shorter crowned AB? **possible spoilers**

Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 9:46 am
by Kokopelli
I just saw KotCS again....this time I noticed that it seemed that the AB's crown was shorter in the scene when they go into the 'skull' waterfall temple entrance. Is it just the lighting/angle...or was there a shorter crown version made?

Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 10:52 am
by Mark Brody
Wasn't there supposed to be one scene where Indy was wearing a DP in this movie so that they could claim the hat was worn by Ford in the film?

Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 12:06 pm
by WeeMadHamish
Steve said there was also one scene where there was in fact a shorter-crowned, wider-brimmed AB (a prototype) used in error. That may be it.

Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 1:08 pm
by McFly
I noticed in the graveyard scenes, the brim looked a little bit short - although it could have been because maybe the wide brim was before that and I was just noticing the short one... idk if that makes sense.

In any case, I thought the brim looked pretty short in that cemetery scene.

Shane

Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 3:34 pm
by Vegeta
McFly wrote:I noticed in the graveyard scenes, the brim looked a little bit short - although it could have been because maybe the wide brim was before that and I was just noticing the short one... idk if that makes sense.

In any case, I thought the brim looked pretty short in that cemetery scene.

Shane
Speaking of short brims.........McFly...That brim on your hat looks TINY!!

Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 4:03 pm
by Fedora
When I talked to Bernie last Friday, he told me that the "odd" hat he had to use twice. But, I did not ask which scenes he was talking about. Bernie told me that he used the shorter hat twice. Once on the outside, and then he put the hat back, and used in on the inside. So, it must be a scene where you see Indy outside, and then he enters the inside of something. Bernie wanted continuity as those scenes were together. I have not spotted it yet, but perhaps the next time I see the film, I will pay more attention to the outside/inside sequence. Hope this helps. Fedora

Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 4:11 pm
by havershaw
I could swear I instantly recognized it just after the scene with Mutt and Indy in the plane...when they're walking around in the street and Indy is giving Mutt advice just before they go into the sanitarium . I noticed it the very first time I saw it and every time I've seen it, it still seems short to me. There are a few publicity stills from those scenes and I think you can kind of tell in those as well.

Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 4:55 pm
by McFly
Vegeta wrote:Speaking of short brims.........McFly...That brim on your hat looks TINY!!
Well, wide brims don't do my skinny face any favors. I like the shorter brims, or the curlier brims. My brim is a LC brim on a Well of Souls crown. :wink: Here's a better pic of my brim... ignore the chicks - it's just a good shot of my hat from straight on.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/ ... G_2007.jpg

And now, back to your regularly scheduled investigation!

Shane

Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 5:02 pm
by Vegeta
It doesnt look as bad in the pic with the girls....Probably the white background in your avatar that makes it look like that. I'm a pretty thin guy too but I love the way the normal brim looks on me. Good times.

Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 6:22 pm
by jock123
I claim no expertise in matters of the hat, but myself I would have said that the scenes in the cell, specifically where Indy is sitting up high looking down at the floor, appear to feature a shorter crown than elsewhere.

Again it just could have been the angleā€¦

Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 7:18 pm
by Kokopelli
How about this one? So far this is the only picture i can find to post...but it looks like a shorter crown than other stills I've seen.


[img][img]http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b341/ ... 3-1600.jpg[/img][/img]

Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 10:01 am
by Fedora
Also, that one short crown hat had a larger brim. 2 7/8 by 2 5/8. I thought it would really stand out, but so far, not to me it doesn't . But, I still have to go and watch the film a few more times. Maybe I will remember to look for it the next time I go.

The gray hat had this larger brim size as well, but was taller than even the regular brown hats. Hard to tell on that too, that is, that it was taller. I was totally surprised by this, as I thought it would really stand out. Fedora

Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 3:55 pm
by Dutch_jones
Fedora wrote:Also, that one short crown hat had a larger brim. 2 7/8 by 2 5/8. I thought it would really stand out, but so far, not to me it doesn't . But, I still have to go and watch the film a few more times. Maybe I will remember to look for it the next time I go.

The gray hat had this larger brim size as well, but was taller than even the regular brown hats. Hard to tell on that too, that is, that it was taller. I was totally surprised by this, as I thought it would really stand out. Fedora
It did stand out to me, it was in the most horrid scene of the movie though, where the spaceship destroys the temple when Indy and Co watch from nearby. That hat had a much wider brim.

Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 4:01 pm
by McFly
I definitely noticed the wide wide brim on the gray hat. Not *bad* looking, but definitely different than what we're used to seeing. It was an interesting choice, but I think it was a good one. It shows Indy likes to change things up once in a while.

Shane

Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 4:18 pm
by Mulceber
citRon wrote:How about this one? So far this is the only picture i can find to post...but it looks like a shorter crown than other stills I've seen.


[img][img]http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b341/ ... 3-1600.jpg[/img][/img]
Nah, that looks like a pretty typical KCS hat to me. :junior: -M